Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[595179]

Fury Denigrates Joshua, Flings Steroid Accusation At Usyk: 'You Useless Dossers!'

“You know what I can’t believe? That ‘AJ’ has gone and given Ukraine all the heavyweight belts back after all my hard work in [retrieving] them,” Fury said in a video posted on his Instagram story. “You big useless dosser!”

Fury (31-0-1, 22 KOs) wasn’t finished. The Manchester native also took a shot at Usyk, a former unified cruiserweight champion, albeit in indirect fashion. Fury referred to Usyk as a “steroid man,” perhaps in reaction to the fact that Usyk is not a career heavyweight.

“You’ve let a little steroid man come up from middleweight and sit above you and take all your belts,” Fury said. “It will take a real British Lancaster bomber like me to go and relieve the useless little…get the belts and get them back to Britain.”

Usyk, to be sure, has never tested positive for a steroid or a banned substance in the professional ranks. Fury, on the other hand, tested positive – along with cousin Hughie Fury – for nandrolone, an anabolic steroid, in 2015 right after defeating Christian Hammer. UKAD, the body that administers drug testing in boxing in the UK, did not charge Fury until June 2016. In 2017, the parties agreed on a backdated two-year ban, which allowed Fury, whose life at that point had spiraled out of control during that period with excessive weight gain, drug use, and mental health issues, to return to the ring in 2018. Fury has denied he has ever taken a banned substance and has maintained that the positive finding was a result of eating uncastrated wild boar.

Joshua (24-2, 22 KOs) and Usyk (19-0, 13 KOs) are scheduled to face each other in a rematch sometime in the spring, perhaps in April; a specific date and location as of this time have not been decided.

As for Fury, he is also expected to make a return to the ring this spring, but it is not clear whom he will face. Countryman Dillian Whyte is his WBC mandatory but Whyte’s litigation with the sanctioning body and his reported excessive purse demands may make that bout an impossibility.

Fury's the only one who's been caught eating uncastrated boar meat.

[jimmystone]

Fury should be careful. He comes over as a mentally frail scumbag there. He is a proven drug cheat. None of those he mentions have been shown to be. Don't sling accusations to cover your own mental inadequacies and doubts.

[Counter-puncher]

I'm done with Fury

not even the memories of Batman or clattering Wilder in the 2nd fight redeem him for me any more, and i have been one of the bigger fanboys.

[maverick23]

I'm done with Fury

not even the memories of Batman or clattering Wilder in the 2nd fight redeem him for me any more, and i have been one of the bigger fanboys.

He doesn’t help himself at all at times.

[Twinkle Toes]

I think we've seen the best of Fury. Time will tell of course. I'm putting it out there now though.

[tonyevs]

My opinion is that Fury has achieved all he wants to inside the boxing ring. All he is happy to do now is grow his celebrity. To be fair he has almost achieved that too - however his own version of celebrity will place him in a precarious position due to his dads and his own mouth ... it can, and I predict will, all come crashing down around him as things previously did.

We know Fury has mental health issues of some description; according to him - which I don`t believe for one second - it is/was bipolar .. which is categorised as experiencing big highs followed by big lows. He has been on a very big for awhile now, and as before, I believe his fall will result in a very big low.

[mickey1975]

My opinion is that Fury has achieved all he wants to inside the boxing ring. All he is happy to do now is grow his celebrity. To be fair he has almost achieved that too - however his own version of celebrity will place him in a precarious position due to his dads and his own mouth ... it can, and I predict will, all come crashing down around him as things previously did.

We know Fury has mental health issues of some description; according to him - which I don`t believe for one second - it is/was bipolar .. which is categorised as experiencing big highs followed by big lows. He has been on a very big for awhile now, and as before, I believe his fall will result in a very big low.

"He's been on a very big"?. What?

[mickey1975]

So, you don't believe he had bipolar but you think he'll suffer from the symptoms of it?

[margaret thatcher]

Fury Denigrates Joshua, Flings Steroid Accusation At Usyk: 'You Useless Dossers!'

“You know what I can’t believe? That ‘AJ’ has gone and given Ukraine all the heavyweight belts back after all my hard work in [retrieving] them,” Fury said in a video posted on his Instagram story. “You big useless dosser!”

Fury (31-0-1, 22 KOs) wasn’t finished. The Manchester native also took a shot at Usyk, a former unified cruiserweight champion, albeit in indirect fashion. Fury referred to Usyk as a “steroid man,” perhaps in reaction to the fact that Usyk is not a career heavyweight.

“You’ve let a little steroid man come up from middleweight and sit above you and take all your belts,” Fury said. “It will take a real British Lancaster bomber like me to go and relieve the useless little…get the belts and get them back to Britain.”

Usyk, to be sure, has never tested positive for a steroid or a banned substance in the professional ranks. Fury, on the other hand, tested positive – along with cousin Hughie Fury – for nandrolone, an anabolic steroid, in 2015 right after defeating Christian Hammer. UKAD, the body that administers drug testing in boxing in the UK, did not charge Fury until June 2016. In 2017, the parties agreed on a backdated two-year ban, which allowed Fury, whose life at that point had spiraled out of control during that period with excessive weight gain, drug use, and mental health issues, to return to the ring in 2018. Fury has denied he has ever taken a banned substance and has maintained that the positive finding was a result of eating uncastrated wild boar.

Joshua (24-2, 22 KOs) and Usyk (19-0, 13 KOs) are scheduled to face each other in a rematch sometime in the spring, perhaps in April; a specific date and location as of this time have not been decided.

As for Fury, he is also expected to make a return to the ring this spring, but it is not clear whom he will face. Countryman Dillian Whyte is his WBC mandatory but Whyte’s litigation with the sanctioning body and his reported excessive purse demands may make that bout an impossibility.

does this rant count as another lineal defense for the king? maybe even 2 defenses, one over josh and one over usyk

might as well retire now that he's cleaned out the division

[dan28uk]

My opinion is that Fury has achieved all he wants to inside the boxing ring. All he is happy to do now is grow his celebrity. To be fair he has almost achieved that too - however his own version of celebrity will place him in a precarious position due to his dads and his own mouth ... it can, and I predict will, all come crashing down around him as things previously did.

We know Fury has mental health issues of some description; according to him - which I don`t believe for one second - it is/was bipolar .. which is categorised as experiencing big highs followed by big lows. He has been on a very big for awhile now, and as before, I believe his fall will result in a very big low.

as someone that suffers with mental health i suffer the same highs and lows , it actually made me change my opinion towards fury but don't condone what he does or says you can't get rid of bi polar you just stabilise it there is no cure

[Counter-puncher]

I think we've seen the best of Fury. Time will tell of course. I'm putting it out there now though.

definitely, won't see him as good as Wilder 2 again, no chance.

[dan28uk]

I think we've seen the best of Fury. Time will tell of course. I'm putting it out there now though.

definitely, won't see him as good as Wilder 2 again, no chance.

to be fair even fury has said they will never be the same again , especially after the last one

[Ruthless-RKO]

Klitschko response

“@Tyson_Fury, you live in a glass house and someone needs to take away your stones,” said Wladimir Klitschko on social media. “It wasn’t long ago before our fight where you ACTUALLY tested positive. Anyone can Google it. Keep it classy!!! #usykchampion #ukraine #hypocrite @usykaa.”


Fury reacts to Wladimir’s biting criticism

“Wladimir, you’ve got some cheek to come back after all these years and open your big mouth,” said Fury on social media, reacting to Klitschko bashing him on social media earlier today.

“You never landed a punch. You never landed a punch. I took all your belts off you. Look, these used to belong to you, mush. Now they belong to me, you useless dosser. Keep on dreaming,” said an amped-up Fury.

[dan28uk]

not sure what frame of mind fury is in at the moment is he doing exercise at the moment ? i'm not on social media so only see snippets of stuff but it doesn't seem good

[mickey1975]

not sure what frame of mind fury is in at the moment is he doing exercise at the moment ? i'm not on social media so only see snippets of stuff but it doesn't seem good

He's training every day.

[dan28uk]

not sure what frame of mind fury is in at the moment is he doing exercise at the moment ? i'm not on social media so only see snippets of stuff but it doesn't seem good

He's training every day.

that's positive then i know when he's not it's bad news

[emallini]

Klitschko response

“@Tyson_Fury, you live in a glass house and someone needs to take away your stones,” said Wladimir Klitschko on social media. “It wasn’t long ago before our fight where you ACTUALLY tested positive. Anyone can Google it. Keep it classy!!! #usykchampion #ukraine #hypocrite @usykaa.”


Fury reacts to Wladimir’s biting criticism

“Wladimir, you’ve got some cheek to come back after all these years and open your big mouth,” said Fury on social media, reacting to Klitschko bashing him on social media earlier today.

“You never landed a punch. You never landed a punch. I took all your belts off you. Look, these used to belong to you, mush. Now they belong to me, you useless dosser. Keep on dreaming,” said an amped-up Fury.

Tbf Fury barely landed a punch himself that night.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Klitschko response

“@Tyson_Fury, you live in a glass house and someone needs to take away your stones,” said Wladimir Klitschko on social media. “It wasn’t long ago before our fight where you ACTUALLY tested positive. Anyone can Google it. Keep it classy!!! #usykchampion #ukraine #hypocrite @usykaa.”


Fury reacts to Wladimir’s biting criticism

“Wladimir, you’ve got some cheek to come back after all these years and open your big mouth,” said Fury on social media, reacting to Klitschko bashing him on social media earlier today.

“You never landed a punch. You never landed a punch. I took all your belts off you. Look, these used to belong to you, mush. Now they belong to me, you useless dosser. Keep on dreaming,” said an amped-up Fury.

Tbf Fury barely landed a punch himself that night.

Yh he just did a little bit more than Wlad.

[tonyevs]

My opinion is that Fury has achieved all he wants to inside the boxing ring. All he is happy to do now is grow his celebrity. To be fair he has almost achieved that too - however his own version of celebrity will place him in a precarious position due to his dads and his own mouth ... it can, and I predict will, all come crashing down around him as things previously did.

We know Fury has mental health issues of some description; according to him - which I don`t believe for one second - it is/was bipolar .. which is categorised as experiencing big highs followed by big lows. He has been on a very big for awhile now, and as before, I believe his fall will result in a very big low.

as someone that suffers with mental health i suffer the same highs and lows , it actually made me change my opinion towards fury but don't condone what he does or says you can't get rid of bi polar you just stabilise it there is no cure

I`m sure I don`t have to tell you then that experiencing high and low moods does not automatically mean a person has bipolar disorder; bipolar is pretty much at the extreme.
Cyclothymia, EUPD, depression .. or the come down off a big cocaine bender are all other possibilities of fluctuating moods.

There was another boxer who quite recently developed bipolar - and he presented with what would be a typical symptom of the highs; attempting to do something like a million burpees because he felt like he was Superman .. before being sectioned.
Where as Fury as far as was reported did nothing more than go on a beer, coke and burger bender.

Yep - I think he has had mental ill health previously. I don`t believe for a second he has bipolar disorder.

[mickey1975]

Sykes binged as well. Worse than Tyson. Tyson came out with ridiculous stuff at his lowest point, like he was coming back to take over. Oh yeah he did.

[Ezzard]

Sounds to me like Fury's just having a laugh and hyping up future fights. No need to get triggered.

I also think we've likely seen the best of him but I hope I'm wrong.

[tonyevs]

Sykes binged as well. Worse than Tyson. Tyson came out with ridiculous stuff at his lowest point, like he was coming back to take over. Oh yeah he did.

Actually - skipping meals is common with bipolar disorder - the person is either too busy to eat, or too depressed to eat .. so binge eating has no relevance at all. Someone piling on the pounds with the disorder is typically a result of the meds to control it.

No disrespect intended; unless you have been around a person displaying mania then you haven't got a clue or any idea how it differs to someone simply being confident.
There is a million miles of difference between someone manic and someone getting silly for attention.

The person with bipolar will believe 100% the delusions. Bipolar is a horrendous disorder.

[dan28uk]

Sykes binged as well. Worse than Tyson. Tyson came out with ridiculous stuff at his lowest point, like he was coming back to take over. Oh yeah he did.

Actually - skipping meals is common with bipolar disorder - the person is either too busy to eat, or too depressed to eat .. so binge eating has no relevance at all. Someone piling on the pounds with the disorder is typically a result of the meds to control it.

No disrespect intended; unless you have been around a person displaying mania then you haven't got a clue or any idea how it differs to someone simply being confident.
There is a million miles of difference between someone manic and someone getting silly for attention.

The person with bipolar will believe 100% the delusions. Bipolar is a horrendous disorder.

bipolar is depressions horrible cousin

[mickey1975]

Sykes binged as well. Worse than Tyson. Tyson came out with ridiculous stuff at his lowest point, like he was coming back to take over. Oh yeah he did.

Actually - skipping meals is common with bipolar disorder - the person is either too busy to eat, or too depressed to eat .. so binge eating has no relevance at all. Someone piling on the pounds with the disorder is typically a result of the meds to control it.

No disrespect intended; unless you have been around a person displaying mania then you haven't got a clue or any idea how it differs to someone simply being confident.
There is a million miles of difference between someone manic and someone getting silly for attention.

The person with bipolar will believe 100% the delusions. Bipolar is a horrendous disorder.

I didn't mean eating.

[dookus]

Klitschko response

“@Tyson_Fury, you live in a glass house and someone needs to take away your stones,” said Wladimir Klitschko on social media. “It wasn’t long ago before our fight where you ACTUALLY tested positive. Anyone can Google it. Keep it classy!!! #usykchampion #ukraine #hypocrite @usykaa.”


Fury reacts to Wladimir’s biting criticism

“Wladimir, you’ve got some cheek to come back after all these years and open your big mouth,” said Fury on social media, reacting to Klitschko bashing him on social media earlier today.

“You never landed a punch. You never landed a punch. I took all your belts off you. Look, these used to belong to you, mush. Now they belong to me, you useless dosser. Keep on dreaming,” said an amped-up Fury.

"Keep it classy", eh? Perhaps Fury should have just responded with a clip of desperate Klitschko landing a blatant headbutt in round 11