Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte | BT PPV - 23 April 2022

[Ruthless-RKO]

Would you be happy with Fury/Charr?

no worse than any of the other tomato cans fury has had

1 fight in 4 years for Charr. It’s amazing that Bob’s even mentioned him as a possibility.

Normally promoters mention a few fighters and it’s usually the worst fighter in the list that gets the fight. Perhaps Bob has thrown Charr into the mix so people are happy if he faces Helenius. Who knows.

It's clever..

Then people say, 'could have been worse, could have been [insert name here]'..

[Wee Tommy]

Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte: Eddie Hearn says purse bids set for Friday but March date 'unrealistic'

Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte is unlikely to happen in March with the purse bids now set for Friday, according to Eddie Hearn.

Mandatory challenger Whyte has been unable to agree to terms with Fury after the WBC ordered an 80/20 purse split in favour of the reigning champion.

Speaking to the 5 Live Boxing podcast, Hearn said: "People keep talking about March dates - that's starting to look unrealistic for a fight of this magnitude."

Fury's co-promoter allegedly told BBC Sport last week that the targeted date was 26 March, but Hearn says April is far more likely.

"Either March, April, early May potentially," added Hearn. "This is the window for the fight. Depends what happens this week.

"There are so many conversations going on behind the scenes right now. Something could turn at any moment."

Whyte, 33, is currently in a dispute with the sanctioning body WBC after their purse-split announcement and also the time it took for the British heavyweight to receive his shot at the world title.

Hearn, who works with Whyte, says despite the disagreements between the two camps and the WBC, the fight will still go ahead.

"You're talking about a lot of money - a difference of 25%," Hearn said about the issue.

"The normal split for any mandatory challenger is a lot more than 80/20. The normal split for an interim champion is up to 45%. We feel in terms of the commercial value of Dillian Whyte and the time he's had to wait, 80/20 is quite ridiculous really."

He added: "[It] looks like Dillian Whyte will definitely get his shot at the WBC title, but we have to fight for his rights and make sure it's fair. It's not going to stand in the way of the fight."

Reading that, there is no way Fury fights Whyte. I’d take bets on it.

[maverick23]

Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte: Eddie Hearn says purse bids set for Friday but March date 'unrealistic'

Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte is unlikely to happen in March with the purse bids now set for Friday, according to Eddie Hearn.

Mandatory challenger Whyte has been unable to agree to terms with Fury after the WBC ordered an 80/20 purse split in favour of the reigning champion.

Speaking to the 5 Live Boxing podcast, Hearn said: "People keep talking about March dates - that's starting to look unrealistic for a fight of this magnitude."

Fury's co-promoter allegedly told BBC Sport last week that the targeted date was 26 March, but Hearn says April is far more likely.

"Either March, April, early May potentially," added Hearn. "This is the window for the fight. Depends what happens this week.

"There are so many conversations going on behind the scenes right now. Something could turn at any moment."

Whyte, 33, is currently in a dispute with the sanctioning body WBC after their purse-split announcement and also the time it took for the British heavyweight to receive his shot at the world title.

Hearn, who works with Whyte, says despite the disagreements between the two camps and the WBC, the fight will still go ahead.

"You're talking about a lot of money - a difference of 25%," Hearn said about the issue.

"The normal split for any mandatory challenger is a lot more than 80/20. The normal split for an interim champion is up to 45%. We feel in terms of the commercial value of Dillian Whyte and the time he's had to wait, 80/20 is quite ridiculous really."

He added: "[It] looks like Dillian Whyte will definitely get his shot at the WBC title, but we have to fight for his rights and make sure it's fair. It's not going to stand in the way of the fight."

Reading that, there is no way Fury fights Whyte. I’d take bets on it.

Why though? Because Fury will only fight on a Top Rank show?

[Wee Tommy]

Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte: Eddie Hearn says purse bids set for Friday but March date 'unrealistic'

Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte is unlikely to happen in March with the purse bids now set for Friday, according to Eddie Hearn.

Mandatory challenger Whyte has been unable to agree to terms with Fury after the WBC ordered an 80/20 purse split in favour of the reigning champion.

Speaking to the 5 Live Boxing podcast, Hearn said: "People keep talking about March dates - that's starting to look unrealistic for a fight of this magnitude."

Fury's co-promoter allegedly told BBC Sport last week that the targeted date was 26 March, but Hearn says April is far more likely.

"Either March, April, early May potentially," added Hearn. "This is the window for the fight. Depends what happens this week.

"There are so many conversations going on behind the scenes right now. Something could turn at any moment."

Whyte, 33, is currently in a dispute with the sanctioning body WBC after their purse-split announcement and also the time it took for the British heavyweight to receive his shot at the world title.

Hearn, who works with Whyte, says despite the disagreements between the two camps and the WBC, the fight will still go ahead.

"You're talking about a lot of money - a difference of 25%," Hearn said about the issue.

"The normal split for any mandatory challenger is a lot more than 80/20. The normal split for an interim champion is up to 45%. We feel in terms of the commercial value of Dillian Whyte and the time he's had to wait, 80/20 is quite ridiculous really."

He added: "[It] looks like Dillian Whyte will definitely get his shot at the WBC title, but we have to fight for his rights and make sure it's fair. It's not going to stand in the way of the fight."

Reading that, there is no way Fury fights Whyte. I’d take bets on it.

Why though? Because Fury will only fight on a Top Rank show?

Because they will never get the money that Whyte and Hearn think they deserve.

[mickey1975]

Surely Hearn won't get a penny if he loses the bid. He's not his manager.

[cormack]

no worse than any of the other tomato cans fury has had

1 fight in 4 years for Charr. It’s amazing that Bob’s even mentioned him as a possibility.

Normally promoters mention a few fighters and it’s usually the worst fighter in the list that gets the fight. Perhaps Bob has thrown Charr into the mix so people are happy if he faces Helenius. Who knows.

It's clever..

Then people say, 'could have been worse, could have been [Dave Rhino Allen ].

Fury doesnt want to fight Whyte - its so obvious

[maverick23]

Reading that, there is no way Fury fights Whyte. I’d take bets on it.

Why though? Because Fury will only fight on a Top Rank show?

Because they will never get the money that Whyte and Hearn think they deserve.

Let it just go to purse bids and if it’s not enough for Whyte then he should be thrown out of the rankings and Tyson should move on.

[maverick23]

Surely Hearn won't get a penny if he loses the bid. He's not his manager.

No - not contractually at least - but he clearly works closely with Whyte and has told him the minimum he’ll be getting from his bid and Dillian may be thinking he’d rather that than accept Top Rank’s offer.

[mickey1975]

1 fight in 4 years for Charr. It’s amazing that Bob’s even mentioned him as a possibility.

Normally promoters mention a few fighters and it’s usually the worst fighter in the list that gets the fight. Perhaps Bob has thrown Charr into the mix so people are happy if he faces Helenius. Who knows.

It's clever..

Then people say, 'could have been worse, could have been [Dave Rhino Allen ].

Fury doesnt want to fight Whyte - its so obvious

I don't think they want to risk boxing on another channel, which is a bit odd because Hearn isn't great in purse bids. Whyte is a very easy fight for Fury, to suggest he's bothered about him is mental.

[cormack]

Ok so I am mental

Whyte will hurt Fury if they meet .
He may not win the fight especillly over 12 - but Fury will get dropped just like he did V Wilder and maybe this time doesnt beat the count .

[Ruthless-RKO]

Here are some of the highest purse bids in history, all Heavyweights.. Green was winning bit, Red being the losing (runner up) bid..

1990-10-25 Evander Holyfield KO 3 James (Buster) Douglas Heavyweight Las Vegas, Nevada, USA $32,100,000 Mirage Casino $29,101,000 Main Events

2013-10-05 Wladimir Klitschko UD 12 Alexander Povetkin Heavyweight Moscow, Russia $23,333,330 Vladimir Hryunov $7,130,000 K2 Promotions

1993-05-08 Lennox Lewis UD 12 Tony Tucker Heavyweight Las Vegas, Nevada, USA $12,160,000 Don King Promotions $12,140,000 Main Events

2014-09-06 Wladimir Klitschko KO 5 Kubrat Pulev Heavyweight Hamburg, Germany $7,250,131 K2 Promotions $5,290,144 Sauerland Event

[Manchester Hitman]

Eddie is probably just as baffled by Whyte’s demands as Team Fury at this point. If it’s not done by Thursday, stick a fork in this fight. It won’t go to bids

[mickey1975]

Ok so I am mental

Whyte will hurt Fury if they meet .
He may not win the fight especillly over 12 - but Fury will get dropped just like he did V Wilder and maybe this time doesnt beat the count .

Has Whyte developed into a better puncher than Wilder?

[maverick23]

It's clever..

Then people say, 'could have been worse, could have been [Dave Rhino Allen ].

Fury doesnt want to fight Whyte - its so obvious

I don't think they want to risk boxing on another channel, which is a bit odd because Hearn isn't great in purse bids. Whyte is a very easy fight for Fury, to suggest he's bothered about him is mental.

I think it’s a bit mental that he’s potentially willing to drop the belt and fight Charr rather than risking boxing on another channel.

He could make his biggest/second biggest purse for this. He could help a lot of charities with it too.

[dan28uk]

most people are better punchers than wilder they just don't punch as freakishly hard , just cos wilder didn't knock out fury doesn't mean whyte can't , i see fury beating whyte by wide ud myself

they might be mentioning charr also to hurry whyte into accepting the fight

[magnus]

Jesus H. Christ. This is all so fornicating tiresome.

This time last year it was the Fury-AJ saga - now this.

To add to this, the Usyk-Joshua rematch still isn't finalised, despite the first fight taking place months ago, with a built in rematch clause.

We'll be lucky to see any of these fighting in the first 6 months of the year.

I'm really thankful that I discovered MMA a few years ago, at least I can watch the best fight the best in the UFC on a regular basis.

[daz74]

This will go to Purse, Hearn will throw a wad of cash on it to launch DAZN PPV. A few weeks before the fight Fury will cry off saying he’s injured.

[dan28uk]

Jesus H. Christ. This is all so fornicating tiresome.

This time last year it was the Fury-AJ saga - now this.

To add to this, the Usyk-Joshua rematch still isn't finalised, despite the first fight taking place months ago, with a built in rematch clause.

We'll be lucky to see any of these fighting in the first 6 months of the year.

I'm really thankful that I discovered MMA a few years ago, at least I can watch the best fight the best in the UFC on a regular basis.

1 title really helps with that though

[Wee Tommy]

Why though? Because Fury will only fight on a Top Rank show?

Because they will never get the money that Whyte and Hearn think they deserve.

Let it just go to purse bids and if it’s not enough for Whyte then he should be thrown out of the rankings and Tyson should move on.

They ain’t happy with 80-20. They ain’t happy with 5mil guarantee. They don’t really want the fight that’s there to be had. Fury’s never been a huge money fight. He might be the top man but the moneys always been with AJ.

Fury is the kind of guy who wants C grade fights while waiting for the big ones, he’s waiting on Usyk or AJ. That’s where the money is.

[tonyevs]

Has Whyte actually received a legit promise for £5 million for the fight, or is like one of those Fury promises to give his $3 or $7 million fight purse to charity?

[595179]

lol, imagine aj vs whyte for undisputed, fury fans would be driven mad, we'd be hearing 'ring magazine' and 'lineal' every f@cking minute

Why are you obsessed with Fury fans?

Why are you all your posts about Eddie Hearn negative?

[Manchester Hitman]

This will go to Purse, Hearn will throw a wad of cash on it to launch DAZN PPV. A few weeks before the fight Fury will cry off saying he’s injured.

Believe it or not, Eddie is actually operating under a budget. Matchroom/ Barry Hearn are also accountants by trade- the idea that they are just going to throw cash at it for the sake of it is not realistic IMO. It’s not monopoly or Saudi oil money he has on tap.

AJ v Usyk 2 is supposedly soon, that needs paying for. Canelo is scheduled for May - Eddie will need money to try to get him back on on DAZN.

Neither side can afford this going to bids. Arum & Bricktop wanted to protect themselves financially by offering the guarantee- that goes out the window in a bid. Eddie/DAZN would have to fork out 40-50m minimum in order to stand any chance, which is bonkers.

[skanksta]

Because they will never get the money that Whyte and Hearn think they deserve.

Let it just go to purse bids and if it’s not enough for Whyte then he should be thrown out of the rankings and Tyson should move on.

They ain’t happy with 80-20. They ain’t happy with 5mil guarantee. They don’t really want the fight that’s there to be had. Fury’s never been a huge money fight. He might be the top man but the moneys always been with AJ.

Fury is the kind of guy who wants C grade fights while waiting for the big ones, he’s waiting on Usyk or AJ. That’s where the money is.

Do you know what the fight might be expected to gross ?
Or does anyone else ?

Surely 5m guaranteed is better for The BodySnatcher ? Even £3m is set for a comfortable life - he’s gotta sign the ting !

[maverick23]

Let it just go to purse bids and if it’s not enough for Whyte then he should be thrown out of the rankings and Tyson should move on.

They ain’t happy with 80-20. They ain’t happy with 5mil guarantee. They don’t really want the fight that’s there to be had. Fury’s never been a huge money fight. He might be the top man but the moneys always been with AJ.

Fury is the kind of guy who wants C grade fights while waiting for the big ones, he’s waiting on Usyk or AJ. That’s where the money is.

Do you know what the fight might be expected to gross ?
Or does anyone else ?

Surely 5m guaranteed is better for The BodySnatcher ? Even £3m is set for a comfortable life - he’s gotta sign the ting !

It’s hard to say how much it’d gross. DAZN may be willing to make a loss on it for the broadcast to get DAZN more well known and launch their PPV model. Eddie may also look to put it on in Saudi so could get a big rights fee.

If it was on Sky PPV I could see a million buys at £25 so £20.8m. Then you’ve got TV in the US and rights fees for the rest of the world, then advertising income and either a decent sized gate in the U.K. or a chunky rights fee. Obviously none of that takes into account other costs but there’s potential for the fight to gross £50m if the Saudis want it.

Eddie will know what he’s bidding and so will Dillian. Based on Dillian turning down $5m/£5m (not sure which) he must be confident that 20% of Eddie’s offer is bigger than that.

He’s already got a comfortable life. I think Mickey said he made £3m or so in one of his recent Sky PPV fights.

[maverick23]

This will go to Purse, Hearn will throw a wad of cash on it to launch DAZN PPV. A few weeks before the fight Fury will cry off saying he’s injured.

Believe it or not, Eddie is actually operating under a budget. Matchroom/ Barry Hearn are also accountants by trade- the idea that they are just going to throw cash at it for the sake of it is not realistic IMO. It’s not monopoly or Saudi oil money he has on tap.

AJ v Usyk 2 is supposedly soon, that needs paying for. Canelo is scheduled for May - Eddie will need money to try to get him back on on DAZN.

Neither side can afford this going to bids. Arum & Bricktop wanted to protect themselves financially by offering the guarantee- that goes out the window in a bid. Eddie/DAZN would have to fork out 40-50m minimum in order to stand any chance, which is bonkers.

It’s bonkers but not unrealistic based on the money that could be generated. DAZN will see this as a marketing campaign for the U.K. as they haven’t really got it outside of the hardcores. You’re right in that they don’t have Saudi oil money on tap but the Saudis are back spending money to bring shows that will generate publicity. They’ve paid $100m for 2 WWE shows and have reportedly shown an interest in Haney/Kambosos. It’s not beyond the realm of possibility for them to put down $20m for this.