Round-by-Round: Daniel Jacobs vs. John Ryder - 12 February 2022

[mickey1975]

The consensus is clearly in favour of Jacobs. It still doesn't mean it was the wrong or a bad decision necessarily. Just how the judges saw it from their viewpoint.

I didn’t personally watch this, but this is a great point.

Each view in boxing is different I.e. watching the Tv is different to the cheap seats in the arena, the ringside view is different view to the mid priced range seats.

The judges are up close and personnel, they can see a lot more than the TV probably shows with all the different camera angles.

TV is the best seat in the house, and with different angles and replays.

[Foggy]

The consensus is clearly in favour of Jacobs. It still doesn't mean it was the wrong or a bad decision necessarily. Just how the judges saw it from their viewpoint.

I didn’t personally watch this, but this is a great point.

Each view in boxing is different I.e. watching the Tv is different to the cheap seats in the arena, the ringside view is different view to the mid priced range seats.

The judges are up close and personnel, they can see a lot more than the TV probably shows with all the different camera angles.

TV is the best seat in the house, and with different angles and replays.

It probably is but the judges don’t get that privilege,
I dont know the answer to poor judging, maybe 1 on each side of the ring, maybe watching tv coverage ring side, maybe having the ref as 1 of the judges?

[dookus]

I didn’t personally watch this, but this is a great point.

Each view in boxing is different I.e. watching the Tv is different to the cheap seats in the arena, the ringside view is different view to the mid priced range seats.

The judges are up close and personnel, they can see a lot more than the TV probably shows with all the different camera angles.

TV is the best seat in the house, and with different angles and replays.

It probably is but the judges don’t get that privilege,
I dont know the answer to poor judging, maybe 1 on each side of the ring, maybe watching tv coverage ring side, maybe having the ref as 1 of the judges?

proper accountability

[goose 5]

114-114 for me. The tenth round was a mother to score; I gave it to Jacobs but could see Ryder nicking it.

[margaret thatcher]

still havent seen 1 person here score it for ryder, yet 2 of 3 judges did, funny world!

[JamesPhilips]

still havent seen 1 person here score it for ryder, yet 2 of 3 judges did, funny world!

Lol I thought Jacobs won, though he looked utterly shot. It wasn't a great advert for world class boxing TBF

[margaret thatcher]

ya although i thought he won he looked well depleted from his peak at mw. frail and slappy, and with hardly any of his former power

[Boxing Prospect]

Close, felt Jacobs won but... You don't go to the UK and expect a decision in an 8-4 /7-5 type fight... He let Ryder in the bout and... Eh... Predictable

What annoyed me more than the decision was the "Jacobs bad one Ben beaten by Golovkin and Canelo" crap... Pirog exists you pudenda

[Ruthless-RKO]

Close, felt Jacobs won but... You don't go to the UK and expect a decision in an 8-4 /7-5 type fight... He let Ryder in the bout and... Eh... Predictable

What annoyed me more than the decision was the "Jacobs bad one Ben beaten by Golovkin and Canelo" crap... Pirog exists you pudenda

No one knows Pirog

[rhino222]

I had Jacobs 7-5

But the result wasnt a robbery, probably a bit of a hometown job. Ryder deserves a bit of a 'rub of the green' after many many years service to the game. he looked a spent force after Blackwell stopped him but bounced back well at SM. His fight result v Callum Smith was debatable.

Well done the gorilla.

[james5000+]

i would take cash over ebjr everyday of the week

down multiple times vs a nonpuncher and just survives it - how does that give you such confidence?

them punches werent non puncher punches tho the first one was a big shot , cash left his chin out he was lucky to survive i thought , and in 12th i think he was gassing more then hurt, and if he goes in to a fight with eubank i assumse it wont be 2 years out of the ring , hes tough cash

That Bloke had no hand speed and still hit Cash clean many, many times and clearly he isn't a puncher.
Funny people talking about Cash being out for ages, his last fight was only 9.5 months ago, in the covid era thats pretty normal.

Cash gets annhilated by Jr

[Boxing Prospect]

Close, felt Jacobs won but... You don't go to the UK and expect a decision in an 8-4 /7-5 type fight... He let Ryder in the bout and... Eh... Predictable

What annoyed me more than the decision was the "Jacobs bad one Ben beaten by Golovkin and Canelo" crap... Pirog exists you pudenda

No one knows Pirog

The promoter of the event should, given he had the man Pirog stopped for a world title and a man he defended that title against on the same show... Seemed like the easier way around was to either man all 3 losses or "Jacobs has only lost to world champions, LIKE Canelo and Golovkin, and that's the pedigree John's in now"

[KiwiRider]

down multiple times vs a nonpuncher and just survives it - how does that give you such confidence?

them punches werent non puncher punches tho the first one was a big shot , cash left his chin out he was lucky to survive i thought , and in 12th i think he was gassing more then hurt, and if he goes in to a fight with eubank i assumse it wont be 2 years out of the ring , hes tough cash

That Bloke had no hand speed and still hit Cash clean many, many times and clearly he isn't a puncher.
Funny people talking about Cash being out for ages, his last fight was only 9.5 months ago, in the covid era thats pretty normal.

Cash gets annhilated by Jr

Cash Vs Fowler is one I would like to see, after Fowler is free.

[maverick23]

down multiple times vs a nonpuncher and just survives it - how does that give you such confidence?

them punches werent non puncher punches tho the first one was a big shot , cash left his chin out he was lucky to survive i thought , and in 12th i think he was gassing more then hurt, and if he goes in to a fight with eubank i assumse it wont be 2 years out of the ring , hes tough cash

That Bloke had no hand speed and still hit Cash clean many, many times and clearly he isn't a puncher.
Funny people talking about Cash being out for ages, his last fight was only 9.5 months ago, in the covid era thats pretty normal.

Cash gets annhilated by Jr

It’s not the time out for Cash that was the issue. It was what happened to him during those 10 months that’s the problem.

[james5000+]

them punches werent non puncher punches tho the first one was a big shot , cash left his chin out he was lucky to survive i thought , and in 12th i think he was gassing more then hurt, and if he goes in to a fight with eubank i assumse it wont be 2 years out of the ring , hes tough cash

That Bloke had no hand speed and still hit Cash clean many, many times and clearly he isn't a puncher.
Funny people talking about Cash being out for ages, his last fight was only 9.5 months ago, in the covid era thats pretty normal.

Cash gets annhilated by Jr

It’s not the time out for Cash that was the issue. It was what happened to him during those 10 months that’s the problem.

He has been training the house down according to Conor Benn. Benn said he's a monster in the gym?
I think he's just another Jamie Cox, a bully that will get annhilated when he steps up.

[skanksta]

Might be.
Might be a just a bad performance after a while out ?

[gregregegg]

This controversial judging is probably good for zack parker and demitrius andrade. Fell like both Eddie and fwank really want there guy to win that fight, bit of a pride issue. So now with some sketchy UK judging on display fwanky boy will wanna pay top dollar to get an american in england, and eddie will wanna pay top dollar to get his american the fuk out of england...

[margaret thatcher]

Yet to watch the fight, but three split 115-113 scores doesn't suggest the cards were filled out before the 1st bell.

Radio five live team all had it very close, Bunce had Jacobs by 2 points and McIntosh & Woodhall had it even going into the 12th.

Bunce said before the decision was announced he'd have no problem with the result going either way by a few points, but would be getting worked up if a 118-110 or something similar shows up. It didn't.

Off they go again with Britian being a crooked place to get a result What nationality was the judge who scored it for Jacobs

Argentinian Diego Ruiz walked away with a gift draw against a touted house fighter only the night before at York Hall.

well, technically if ppl say britan is a crooked place to get a result, they are saying the location matters and not necessarily where the judges are from. tbh that's how it always happens, it doesnt really matter where the judges are from, but where the fight is and who has the backing

since uk is a major boxing country it will inevitably have more bad decisions than smaller boxing markets that dont see as many fights, as much money on the line, or as many visiting fighters coming over. its not a uk thing, but a boxing thing

the main lesson of all this is 'fair play' to robert smith for defending his judges no matter what, that's some loyalty, am i right?

[margaret thatcher]

speaking of lee mcgregor, the judge who had that a draw is one of the 3 judges who heinously robbed minoume against mckenna, in shocker of a decision

maybe he just downright sucks lol

[NoScoutingReports]

I thought Jacobs did enough personally despite Ryder improving in the 2nd half of the fight, happy for John to get some luck after the Smith debacle but had Danny winning it.

[NoScoutingReports]

By the way fellow Boxreccers, can we make some sort of pact that Skye Nicolson slander won't be tolerated ever, even if she happens to be dogshit, we should all agree to either bullshit or just keep quiet, she is elite

[Ruthless-RKO]

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[stujones]

Judging by the post fight interview with Hearn, I think Jacobs will be given his marching orders by Matchroom - no mention of a rematch for him. Shame as wasn't Jacobs the first international signing by EH.

Want loyalty, get a dog. Amazingly off course EH thought Jacobs beat Canelo and/or GGG post fight, but in the build up to this just said he lost and didn't really highlight that some thought he won - I wonder why

[maninthemiddle]

The forum has the majority very anti towards British officials despite this weekend alone a British official scoring a draw in the McGregor fight when general opinion suggest he cud have easily sided with the home fighter...
In a close main event the sole British official sided with the away fighter in a split decision..
We also saw Refs deduct a point from two fighters on Saturday, both from the home fighter..??

[Boxing Prospect]

The forum has the majority very anti towards British officials despite this weekend alone a British official scoring a draw in the McGregor fight when general opinion suggest he cud have easily sided with the home fighter...
In a close main event the sole British official sided with the away fighter in a split decision..
We also saw Refs deduct a point from two fighters on Saturday, both from the home fighter..??

Could easily point out that whilst the ref deducted points form the home fighters in two fights, they could have have deducted a couple from both of the home fighters...