Jose Manuel Urtain versus Bob Foster

[goose 5]

10 rounds.

[Cutman Scabbers]

Would be curtains for Urtain.

[Vlad]

Foster SD

[Cutman Scabbers]

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[scorpio83]

Bob Foster was successful at light heavyweight not heavyweight and Urtain would batter Foster for the late round knockout win.

[Cutman Scabbers]

Bob Foster was successful at light heavyweight not heavyweight and Urtain would batter Foster for the late round knockout win.

Foster beat a number of heavyweights, just not the top ones.

[Cutman Scabbers]

I think Foster would win by KO. Urtain would be a wide open target for Bob's lethal left-hook.

Normally, I'd be reluctant to pick Foster against a heavyweight. We all know how Bob simply lacked the body mass, sturdiness, and durability to hang in there with any natural heavyweight who outweighed him by 20 lbs or so. However, most of Foster's failures against the bigger guys were to legitimate contenders or guys who were at least top-15 in terms of ability.

Urtain simply wasn't a world-class or even a semi-world class heavyweight. IMO, Urtain was a top-25 heavyweight at best. Really just an incredibly strong club fighter. Nothing more. Therefore I don't think Urtain would have caused much trouble for Foster.

It's possible that Urtain might have lasted 7 or 8 rounds against Foster. I say this only because he did remain on his feet for 9 rounds in losing to Henry Cooper, who had a killer left-hook of his own. However long the fight would last, though, Foster would completely control the action with his sneaky jabs and combinations. At some point, maybe early maybe later, Bob's left-hook would find its mark and Urtain would be lost.

Do some of the Boxrec notes on Urtain's record imply opponents took dives?

[scorpio83]

I think Foster would win by KO. Urtain would be a wide open target for Bob's lethal left-hook.

Normally, I'd be reluctant to pick Foster against a heavyweight. We all know how Bob simply lacked the body mass, sturdiness, and durability to hang in there with any natural heavyweight who outweighed him by 20 lbs or so. However, most of Foster's failures against the bigger guys were to legitimate contenders or guys who were at least top-15 in terms of ability.

Urtain simply wasn't a world-class or even a semi-world class heavyweight. IMO, Urtain was a top-25 heavyweight at best. Really just an incredibly strong club fighter. Nothing more. Therefore I don't think Urtain would have caused much trouble for Foster.

It's possible that Urtain might have lasted 7 or 8 rounds against Foster. I say this only because he did remain on his feet for 9 rounds in losing to Henry Cooper, who had a killer left-hook of his own. However long the fight would last, though, Foster would completely control the action with his sneaky jabs and combinations. At some point, maybe early maybe later, Bob's left-hook would find its mark and Urtain would be lost.

You were right that Bob Foster's failures against the bigger guys were to legitimate contenders, future or former champions like Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Ernie Terrell, Zora Folley and Doug Jones. However, I don't agreed with Cutman's opinion because Foster's win against heavyweights weren't top ones, but mostly journeyman or could have been contenders not the ones I mentioned earlier in this paragraph.

[Cutman Scabbers]

Urtain simply wasn't a world-class or even a semi-world class heavyweight. IMO, Urtain was a top-25 heavyweight at best. Really just an incredibly strong club fighter. Nothing more. Therefore I don't think Urtain would have caused much trouble for Foster.

Fair enough, Scorpio -- but do you agree with the above?

[scorpio83]

Urtain simply wasn't a world-class or even a semi-world class heavyweight. IMO, Urtain was a top-25 heavyweight at best. Really just an incredibly strong club fighter. Nothing more. Therefore I don't think Urtain would have caused much trouble for Foster.

Fair enough, Scorpio -- but do you agree with the above?

Good question. Urtain could be capable to wearing Foster down with body shots and stopping him in the late rounds or decision. If Urtain fought Mac Foster, it would be a different story. I agreed with Joe with Urtain being top 25 heavyweight at best, but I would think Urtain would have caused much, but not more trouble for Foster like Frazier did, who easily blasted Foster out in 2 rounds with his big left hook in his world heavyweight title defense.