Andrade vs Benividez

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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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They wait Andrade to get old and fading, then fight him. Munguia should;ve fought Andrade for the wbo mw title.

Ryder would be a good fight for Andrade. :box:
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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Enlightened-One wrote: 19 Feb 2022, 16:05
Bandog wrote: 19 Feb 2022, 09:42
apollo creed wrote: 18 Feb 2022, 17:30 Why doesn't Charlo and Bena try to get Andrade? Hearn did his job but he can't force fighters to fight Andrade.

At the end of the day Andrade is making good money on DAZN. Andrade should fight Jacobs and Ryder. :box:
I guess it's about money, when you want it to be. Even guys in house won't fight him.

Charlo rejected $7 million for a one-fight deal and a chance to win another belt.
Canelo rejected $45 million for a one-fight deal.
Golovkin rejected a $25 million offer to unify at 160 out of fear of ruining a third Canelo fight.
Billy Joe Saunders tested positive for PEDs and was not interested in rescheduling.
Jaime Munguia didn’t even want to start any negotiations or activate his mandatory status.
And now Benavidez is clearly pricing himself out.
No one corroborated those sums you cited.

You’re claiming them to be fact, but they aren’t.
Here's my source. Of course your superior knowlege is more credible. 🙄

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/02/an ... an-canelo/
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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Bandog wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:35
Enlightened-One wrote: 19 Feb 2022, 16:05
Bandog wrote: 19 Feb 2022, 09:42

I guess it's about money, when you want it to be. Even guys in house won't fight him.

Charlo rejected $7 million for a one-fight deal and a chance to win another belt.
Canelo rejected $45 million for a one-fight deal.
Golovkin rejected a $25 million offer to unify at 160 out of fear of ruining a third Canelo fight.
Billy Joe Saunders tested positive for PEDs and was not interested in rescheduling.
Jaime Munguia didn’t even want to start any negotiations or activate his mandatory status.
And now Benavidez is clearly pricing himself out.
No one corroborated those sums you cited.

You’re claiming them to be fact, but they aren’t.
Here's my source. Of course your superior knowlege is more credible. 🙄

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/02/an ... an-canelo/
EO exposed! :oo
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

Post by Enlightened-One »

Bandog wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:35
Enlightened-One wrote: 19 Feb 2022, 16:05
Bandog wrote: 19 Feb 2022, 09:42

I guess it's about money, when you want it to be. Even guys in house won't fight him.

Charlo rejected $7 million for a one-fight deal and a chance to win another belt.
Canelo rejected $45 million for a one-fight deal.
Golovkin rejected a $25 million offer to unify at 160 out of fear of ruining a third Canelo fight.
Billy Joe Saunders tested positive for PEDs and was not interested in rescheduling.
Jaime Munguia didn’t even want to start any negotiations or activate his mandatory status.
And now Benavidez is clearly pricing himself out.
No one corroborated those sums you cited.

You’re claiming them to be fact, but they aren’t.
Here's my source. Of course your superior knowlege is more credible. 🙄

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/02/an ... an-canelo/
The article is simply an opinion piece that does not contain any quotes whatsoever, was written by an anonymous author and was also posted to a website that publishes articles written by anyone (even someone like you).

My knowledge is more credible, because unlike you, I am always capable of providing interview transcripts and also videos of discussions from the proverbial horse’s mouth.

I’ll repeat what I clearly stated before, no one corroborated the monetary amounts that Andrade alleges – not even his own promoter (who was the person that supposedly made those offers).

Are desperately hoping that repeating the same big lie often enough will eventually displace people’s recollections of real-world truths?
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:53
Bandog wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:35
Enlightened-One wrote: 19 Feb 2022, 16:05
No one corroborated those sums you cited.

You’re claiming them to be fact, but they aren’t.
Here's my source. Of course your superior knowlege is more credible. 🙄

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/02/an ... an-canelo/
The article is simply an opinion piece that does not contain any quotes whatsoever, was written by an anonymous author and was also posted to a website that publishes articles written by anyone (even someone like you).

My knowledge is more credible, because unlike you, I am always capable of providing interview transcripts and also videos of discussions from the proverbial horse’s mouth.

I’ll repeat what I clearly stated before, no one corroborated the monetary amounts that Andrade alleges – not even his own promoter (who was the person that supposedly made those offers).

Are desperately hoping that repeating the same big lie often enough will eventually displace people’s recollections of real-world truths?
Shut down by EO! :clap:
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:57
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:53
Bandog wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:35

Here's my source. Of course your superior knowlege is more credible. 🙄

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/02/an ... an-canelo/
The article is simply an opinion piece that does not contain any quotes whatsoever, was written by an anonymous author and was also posted to a website that publishes articles written by anyone (even someone like you).

My knowledge is more credible, because unlike you, I am always capable of providing interview transcripts and also videos of discussions from the proverbial horse’s mouth.

I’ll repeat what I clearly stated before, no one corroborated the monetary amounts that Andrade alleges – not even his own promoter (who was the person that supposedly made those offers).

Are desperately hoping that repeating the same big lie often enough will eventually displace people’s recollections of real-world truths?
Shut down by EO! :clap:
:lol:
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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Bandog wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:57
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:53
The article is simply an opinion piece that does not contain any quotes whatsoever, was written by an anonymous author and was also posted to a website that publishes articles written by anyone (even someone like you).

My knowledge is more credible, because unlike you, I am always capable of providing interview transcripts and also videos of discussions from the proverbial horse’s mouth.

I’ll repeat what I clearly stated before, no one corroborated the monetary amounts that Andrade alleges – not even his own promoter (who was the person that supposedly made those offers).

Are desperately hoping that repeating the same big lie often enough will eventually displace people’s recollections of real-world truths?
Shut down by EO! :clap:
:lol:
Article notes: "By Mohamed Horomtallah: Sampson Lewkowicz, David Benavidez’s promoter, stated".."
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

Post by Enlightened-One »

oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 12:09
Bandog wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:57
Shut down by EO! :clap:
:lol:
Article notes: "By Mohamed Horomtallah: Sampson Lewkowicz, David Benavidez’s promoter, stated".."
Who is Mohamed Horomtallah?

And can you please provide the verbatim quote of Sampson Lewkowicz's actual words from that article supporting the following claims?
Bandog wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:35 Charlo rejected $7 million for a one-fight deal and a chance to win another belt.
Canelo rejected $45 million for a one-fight deal.
Golovkin rejected a $25 million offer to unify at 160 out of fear of ruining a third Canelo fight.
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 12:27
oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 12:09
Bandog wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 12:00

:lol:
Article notes: "By Mohamed Horomtallah: Sampson Lewkowicz, David Benavidez’s promoter, stated".."
Who is Mohamed Horomtallah?

And can you please provide the verbatim quote of Sampson Lewkowicz's actual words from that article?
Read it yourself EO. You said there was no author...there was...There is nothing to posted in this thread proving those quoted points aren't true. SO you go enjoy being irrefutable. :OhYes:
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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Oh, and by the way, Mohamed Horomtallah is a contributor with the boxingnews24.com among others. Many articles, etc.
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

Post by Enlightened-One »

oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 12:32Read it yourself EO.
You didn't even read it, did you?
oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 12:32You said there was no author...there was...
If you could read, then you'd realise I never said that.
oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 12:32There is nothing to posted in this thread proving those quoted points aren't true.
So are you saying that anyone can lie and claim whatever they damn well wanted... And it has to be considered as being "fact" regardless of there being no evidence whatsoever to justify their claims?

I believe pigs can fly!

And "there is nothing to posted in this thread" that undermines my claim!!! :OhYes: :yay:
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 12:34 Oh, and by the way, Mohamed Horomtallah is a contributor with the boxingnews24.com among others. Many articles, etc.
Who are the "among others" websites (and I mean those that don't simply provide a hyperlink back to boxingnews24.com)?

How many twitter followers does he have? By the looks of things, Mohamed Horomtallah only has four.
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:53
Bandog wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:35
Enlightened-One wrote: 19 Feb 2022, 16:05
No one corroborated those sums you cited.

You’re claiming them to be fact, but they aren’t.
Here's my source. Of course your superior knowlege is more credible. 🙄

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/02/an ... an-canelo/
The article is simply an opinion piece that does not contain any quotes whatsoever, was written by an anonymous author and was also posted to a website that publishes articles written by anyone (even someone like you).

My knowledge is more credible, because unlike you, I am always capable of providing interview transcripts and also videos of discussions from the proverbial horse’s mouth.

I’ll repeat what I clearly stated before, no one corroborated the monetary amounts that Andrade alleges – not even his own promoter (who was the person that supposedly made those offers).

Are desperately hoping that repeating the same big lie often enough will eventually displace people’s recollections of real-world truths?
Um, there's that oh wise one.
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

Post by Enlightened-One »

oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 13:10
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:53
Bandog wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:35

Here's my source. Of course your superior knowlege is more credible. 🙄

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/02/an ... an-canelo/
The article is simply an opinion piece that does not contain any quotes whatsoever, was written by an anonymous author and was also posted to a website that publishes articles written by anyone (even someone like you).

My knowledge is more credible, because unlike you, I am always capable of providing interview transcripts and also videos of discussions from the proverbial horse’s mouth.

I’ll repeat what I clearly stated before, no one corroborated the monetary amounts that Andrade alleges – not even his own promoter (who was the person that supposedly made those offers).

Are desperately hoping that repeating the same big lie often enough will eventually displace people’s recollections of real-world truths?
Um, there's that oh wise one.
Anonymous also means not known to the public or an unremarkable person.

You'd never heard of Mohamed Horomtallah until this discussion.

He only has four Twitter followers.

English isn’t even my first language but I seem to have a better grasp of it than you do!
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 13:16
oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 13:10
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:53
The article is simply an opinion piece that does not contain any quotes whatsoever, was written by an anonymous author and was also posted to a website that publishes articles written by anyone (even someone like you).

My knowledge is more credible, because unlike you, I am always capable of providing interview transcripts and also videos of discussions from the proverbial horse’s mouth.

I’ll repeat what I clearly stated before, no one corroborated the monetary amounts that Andrade alleges – not even his own promoter (who was the person that supposedly made those offers).

Are desperately hoping that repeating the same big lie often enough will eventually displace people’s recollections of real-world truths?
Um, there's that oh wise one.
Anonymous also means not known to the public or an unremarkable person.

You'd never heard of Mohamed Horomtallah until this discussion.

He only has four Twitter followers.
Typical EO. It doesn't exist unless you know about it. Classic. :clap: You're so easy.
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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I've never met anyone before who can't accept being wrong, who is wrong 99% of the time! :lol:
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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EO loves dragging posters in his ocd traps. lol :OhYes: :lol:

He's like a biatch who loves teasing the sh.it out of guys. lol
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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apollo creed wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 13:40 EO loves dragging posters in his ocd traps. lol :OhYes: :lol:

He's like a biatch who loves teasing the sh.it out of guys. lol
:lol:
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

Post by maverick23 »

Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 13:16
oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 13:10
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 11:53
The article is simply an opinion piece that does not contain any quotes whatsoever, was written by an anonymous author and was also posted to a website that publishes articles written by anyone (even someone like you).

My knowledge is more credible, because unlike you, I am always capable of providing interview transcripts and also videos of discussions from the proverbial horse’s mouth.

I’ll repeat what I clearly stated before, no one corroborated the monetary amounts that Andrade alleges – not even his own promoter (who was the person that supposedly made those offers).

Are desperately hoping that repeating the same big lie often enough will eventually displace people’s recollections of real-world truths?
Um, there's that oh wise one.
Anonymous also means not known to the public or an unremarkable person.

You'd never heard of Mohamed Horomtallah until this discussion.

He only has four Twitter followers.

English isn’t even my first language but I seem to have a better grasp of it than you do!
You might need to furnish yourself with a proper dictionary if you think that’s what anonymous also means. 👍
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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maverick23 wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 15:22
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 13:16
oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 13:10
Um, there's that oh wise one.
Anonymous also means not known to the public or an unremarkable person.

You'd never heard of Mohamed Horomtallah until this discussion.

He only has four Twitter followers.

English isn’t even my first language but I seem to have a better grasp of it than you do!
You might need to furnish yourself with a proper dictionary if you think that’s what anonymous also means. 👍
Nah, he's just moving the goal posts and changing the rules as always. Let him have his fun. We don't want him to have a breakdown.
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

Post by Enlightened-One »

oogiebe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 15:29
maverick23 wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 15:22
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 13:16
Anonymous also means not known to the public or an unremarkable person.

You'd never heard of Mohamed Horomtallah until this discussion.

He only has four Twitter followers.

English isn’t even my first language but I seem to have a better grasp of it than you do!
You might need to furnish yourself with a proper dictionary if you think that’s what anonymous also means. 👍
Nah, he's just moving the goal posts and changing the rules as always. Let him have his fun. We don't want him to have a breakdown.
You guys may choose to attempt to prove me “wrong” by citing your “opinions”, but nothing you’ll claim will 100% reliably reflect reality.
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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tbf , boxingnews24 is a terrible website and that's been said for years, way before this thread. ive gotten after ruthy before for posting their stuff. its mostly a few guys using fake author names to publish bait pieces meant to trigger responses due to how stupid they are

home to the legendary scott gilfoid :lol:

here's some quotes that sum it up well viewtopic.php?f=9&t=138833&p=2920042&hilit=
Boxingnews24 is one of the worst sites out there. Steer clear of it at all costs. It's not journalism; it's people with sub-100 IQs ranting bias-laden tripe.
Boxingnews24 is the equivelant of a bug eyed drunk sitting in the corner of a pub, writing his "thoughts" on the back of a beer mat.
Boxing News 24 is terrible. Agree it's just sensationalist crap to draw people in, get the comments flowing and make advertising revenue. A 'trash site' if you will for boxing, can;t stand it myself but each to their own.
or some comments from redditt

In serious form, boxingnews24 is a joke. Their site is filled with random authors, and their standard authors are a joke as if they were selected personality arch types.

One is a Mayweather fan who says Pacquiao would get iced by Brandon Rios, the other is a Pacquiao fan who predicted Guerrero would destroy Mayweather.

Then there's a guy which is practically British Boxers > The World. The other is a Wilder fan boy, one is a Klitschko lover and the other a hater. Overall a joke of a site with no integrity what so ever.
and a thread on BS https://www.BS.com/forums/boxi ... 4?t=581631
All of the writers on there are actually Eddy Pronishev and David Rosenberg of ESB. They even changed ESB to look exactly like their other site. They even started writing the same articles, almost word for word, under a variety of fake names on ESB like Michael Collins.

Gilfoid, Williams, Mckay, Ambrose are all one and the same. They fabricate quotes, create fake news and even post material that is months old. I saw something they posted last week from David Price, using quotes from September of last year and passing it off as new.
assorted other comments
Gave up reading articles on that site many years ago. Shambles
They post so much tripe, I unfollowed them a while back.
Stopped reading this sites shit years ago
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

Post by Enlightened-One »

margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 21:17 tbf , boxingnews24 is a terrible website and that's been said for years, way before this thread. ive gotten after ruthy before for posting their stuff. its mostly a few guys using fake author names to publish bait pieces meant to trigger responses due to how stupid they are
100% agree with you. :TU:
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

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Enlightened-One wrote: 21 Feb 2022, 04:37
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 21:17 tbf , boxingnews24 is a terrible website and that's been said for years, way before this thread. ive gotten after ruthy before for posting their stuff. its mostly a few guys using fake author names to publish bait pieces meant to trigger responses due to how stupid they are
100% agree with you. :TU:

Birds of a feather.... :OhYes:
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Re: Andrade vs Benividez

Post by margaret thatcher »

ya, and all those other people, for years and years, also agreed, simply because they hate boo boo :lol:
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