About Ben Davison
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CaptainSpacerod
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Re: About Ben Davison
Does Ben get any credit from the naysayers after his recent successes in the corner or is it a case of the old adage “it’s better to be lucky than good” applying to him ?
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margaret thatcher
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Re: About Ben Davison
i dont count the taylor win as a trainers success, having your guy give by far a career worst performance where he got a gift over a big underdog isnt impressive, it's lucky judging
but the wood win was nice. he's a narssactic goof but overall the results are good for sure. i give him credit. even if his biggest strength is just being a relationship builder with his fighters, he does something they really like and makes them have trust in him
but the wood win was nice. he's a narssactic goof but overall the results are good for sure. i give him credit. even if his biggest strength is just being a relationship builder with his fighters, he does something they really like and makes them have trust in him
Re: About Ben Davison
I don't give the Wood win any credit to Boxercise. Wood was fit, but I haven't noticed any actual improvements to his boxing, and not to his defence in particular. Conlan kept catching Wood with his guard down, really basic stuff. Never heard Boxercise giving him what for about it- like any trainer would when his charge was making such a 101 mistake...margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Mar 2022, 21:11 i dont count the taylor win as a trainers success, having your guy give by far a career worst performance where he got a gift over a big underdog isnt impressive, it's lucky judging
but the wood win was nice. he's a narssactic goof but overall the results are good for sure. i give him credit. even if his biggest strength is just being a relationship builder with his fighters, he does something they really like and makes them have trust in him
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Wee Tommy
- Heavyweight

Re: About Ben Davison
KiwiRider wrote: ↑14 Mar 2022, 21:34I don't give the Wood win any credit to Boxercise. Wood was fit, but I haven't noticed any actual improvements to his boxing, and not to his defence in particular. Conlan kept catching Wood with his guard down, really basic stuff. Never heard Boxercise giving him what for about it- like any trainer would when his charge was making such a 101 mistake...margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Mar 2022, 21:11 i dont count the taylor win as a trainers success, having your guy give by far a career worst performance where he got a gift over a big underdog isnt impressive, it's lucky judging
but the wood win was nice. he's a narssactic goof but overall the results are good for sure. i give him credit. even if his biggest strength is just being a relationship builder with his fighters, he does something they really like and makes them have trust in him
Agreed mate. Wood got the win because he was fit, tough and powerful. Hardly attributes gained under Ben. His defence was poor, very much like Josh’s.
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Counter-puncher
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Re: About Ben Davison
aye that was a victory for physicality over technique, if ever I saw one.
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lefthook82
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Re: About Ben Davison
I don't know if his fitness has improved with Ben but he got hit way too often for me to credit Ben with anything. This was Froch v Taylor part 2. The more skilled guy overcome by the physically stronger guy.
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forcefraser
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Re: About Ben Davison
Ben does seem to have great rapport with his fighters. Doesn't make him a top trainer though.
The two fights he'd had Taylor have been a retraction. The advice in the corner from Bennisnt the best and I question his technical knowledge.
If he gives the fighters belief in themselves then fair play to him, but he's no technician.
Let's see the guy take a fighters from debut to the top, not guys who are already undisputed champions.
He does get a lot of stick, but I can see why. He's got one of those shat eating grin mushes that people just want to smack.
The two fights he'd had Taylor have been a retraction. The advice in the corner from Bennisnt the best and I question his technical knowledge.
If he gives the fighters belief in themselves then fair play to him, but he's no technician.
Let's see the guy take a fighters from debut to the top, not guys who are already undisputed champions.
He does get a lot of stick, but I can see why. He's got one of those shat eating grin mushes that people just want to smack.
Re: About Ben Davison
Good analogy. Yes, definitely the more skilled guy(lacking pop) overcome by the physically stronger (and fitter) guy.lefthook82 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2022, 05:01 I don't know if his fitness has improved with Ben but he got hit way too often for me to credit Ben with anything. This was Froch v Taylor part 2. The more skilled guy overcome by the physically stronger guy.
So maybe Boxercise did help with the fitness, but definitely dropped the ball with defence. I mean, it's hard to watch a guy making the same basic defensive mistake for 11 rounds- and being rightfully punished for it.
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jameswilson
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Re: About Ben Davison
forcefraser wrote: ↑15 Mar 2022, 08:57
He does get a lot of stick, but I can see why. He's got one of those shat eating grin mushes that people just want to smack.
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TheLeprechaun
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Re: About Ben Davison
He's starting to go thin and well on his way to being bald. That seems like it will hit his ego hard.
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high tower 1
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Re: About Ben Davison
I’d be depressed too if my hair fell out
Re: About Ben Davison
Yea them little pisshole in the snow eyes too.jameswilson wrote: ↑19 Mar 2022, 09:05forcefraser wrote: ↑15 Mar 2022, 08:57
He does get a lot of stick, but I can see why. He's got one of those shat eating grin mushes that people just want to smack.![]()
A face you could never tire of clouting.
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Wee Tommy
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Nightmare Roy
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Re: About Ben Davison
For someone who boasts of doing circuits with his boxers and working so hard it's a mystery why he's not going thin round his waistlineTheLeprechaun wrote: ↑19 Mar 2022, 09:25 He's starting to go thin and well on his way to being bald. That seems like it will hit his ego hard.
Re: About Ben Davison
Absolute bullshit merchant
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margaret thatcher
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dude sounds like he actually think he has super powers or something, i get having an ego, but the whole 'seeing what is invisible' stuff is just weird
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jameswilson
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Re: About Ben Davison
He’s taken Joe Gallagher’s place as most hated trainer hasn’t he?
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JamesPhilips
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Wee Tommy
- Heavyweight

Re: About Ben Davison
Rightly so.jameswilson wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 10:33 He’s taken Joe Gallagher’s place as most hated trainer hasn’t he?
He must be doing something right but his interviews are absolute cringe.
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maverick23
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Re: About Ben Davison
Not for me. I still can’t get over Joe calling out Sky/Eddie for racism over not being able to get a deal done with Tasha Jonas.jameswilson wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 10:33 He’s taken Joe Gallagher’s place as most hated trainer hasn’t he?