BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

[mickey1975]

How would you even go about being someone like DK? Under scrutiny across the world, how does he do deals? I bet he's scared to even talk to his wife. And run huge boxing businesses whilst pretending he's nothing to do with them. And wash his money and order a few hits in his time off. Just how?

[jimmystone]

How would you even go about being someone like DK? Under scrutiny across the world, how does he do deals? I bet he's scared to even talk to his wife. And run huge boxing businesses whilst pretending he's nothing to do with them. And wash his money and order a few hits in his time off. Just how?

Same way as anybody who runs a medium to large sized business, or operation. You think strategically and delegate. If you saw a lieutenant general day to day you'd see that he does almost fornicate all other than think and have a bit of a chat to a few blokes a rank or two below him but look at what gets done and how many people are doing stuff off the back of that. It's simple really but brilliant.

p.s. definitely don't talk to your wife is important.

[BigDoofus]

Is Sunny Edwards his wife?

[mickey1975]

How would you even go about being someone like DK? Under scrutiny across the world, how does he do deals? I bet he's scared to even talk to his wife. And run huge boxing businesses whilst pretending he's nothing to do with them. And wash his money and order a few hits in his time off. Just how?

Same way as anybody who runs a medium to large sized business, or operation. You think strategically and delegate. If you saw a lieutenant general day to day you'd see that he does almost fornicate all other than think and have a bit of a chat to a few blokes a rank or two below him but look at what gets done and how many people are doing stuff off the back of that. It's simple really but brilliant.

p.s. definitely don't talk to your wife is important.

But he's so big now I can't even see how he can have a conversation with anyone. He can't even watch his own shows. I read once that Curtis Warren used to send lads on cheap flights just to Spain just to pass on a message because he couldn't speak on the phone. And DK is bigger. Ironically, it's probably boxing, which he loves, that has got him all this attention. Nobody screams about his dad or brother.

[maverick23]

How would you even go about being someone like DK? Under scrutiny across the world, how does he do deals? I bet he's scared to even talk to his wife. And run huge boxing businesses whilst pretending he's nothing to do with them. And wash his money and order a few hits in his time off. Just how?

Same way as anybody who runs a medium to large sized business, or operation. You think strategically and delegate. If you saw a lieutenant general day to day you'd see that he does almost fornicate all other than think and have a bit of a chat to a few blokes a rank or two below him but look at what gets done and how many people are doing stuff off the back of that. It's simple really but brilliant.

p.s. definitely don't talk to your wife is important.

But he's so big now I can't even see how he can have a conversation with anyone. He can't even watch his own shows. I read once that Curtis Warren used to send lads on cheap flights just to Spain just to pass on a message because he couldn't speak on the phone. And DK is bigger. Ironically, it's probably boxing, which he loves, that has got him all this attention. Nobody screams about his dad or brother.

Yeah - I do wonder whether him getting so involved with boxing has escalated things for him.

I saw yesterday that Richard Schaefer came out and defended Probellum saying that DK had nothing to do with it and that fighters that continue to work with him (contractually at least) will be cut from Probellum. In reality no boxers will have anything in writing with DK so nothing will change for Probellum in that regard.

Will be interesting to see what happens. I can imagine certain TV networks not wanting to work with them but it’s also unlikely that there’s enough for a network to break/end a contract with them. Wonder if there will be any issues for the Paul Butler show next week.

[mickey1975]

I had to laugh when Michael Conlan said he had absolutely no links to DK. Ok, Michael, your brother is one of his main men.
Danny Vaughan's wife was implicated in huge drugs busts in Scotland before she even met Danny. Then became CEO of MTK. A friend of mine pooped in to MTK marbella and said it was very security conscious to say the least. Worse than a prison.

[maverick23]

I had to laugh when Michael Conlan said he had absolutely no links to DK. Ok, Michael, your brother is one of his main men.
Danny Vaughan's wife was implicated in huge drugs busts in Scotland before she even met Danny. Then became CEO of MTK. A friend of mine pooped in to MTK marbella and said it was very security conscious to say the least. Worse than a prison.

I didn’t realise Sandra had previous involvement with drugs - always assumed it was her marriage that got her drawn in to this.

[mickey1975]

I had to laugh when Michael Conlan said he had absolutely no links to DK. Ok, Michael, your brother is one of his main men.
Danny Vaughan's wife was implicated in huge drugs busts in Scotland before she even met Danny. Then became CEO of MTK. A friend of mine pooped in to MTK marbella and said it was very security conscious to say the least. Worse than a prison.

I didn’t realise Sandra had previous involvement with drugs - always assumed it was her marriage that got her drawn in to this.

Her first marriage! She must have a bit of a thing for them.

[jimmystone]

How would you even go about being someone like DK? Under scrutiny across the world, how does he do deals? I bet he's scared to even talk to his wife. And run huge boxing businesses whilst pretending he's nothing to do with them. And wash his money and order a few hits in his time off. Just how?

Same way as anybody who runs a medium to large sized business, or operation. You think strategically and delegate. If you saw a lieutenant general day to day you'd see that he does almost fornicate all other than think and have a bit of a chat to a few blokes a rank or two below him but look at what gets done and how many people are doing stuff off the back of that. It's simple really but brilliant.

p.s. definitely don't talk to your wife is important.

But he's so big now I can't even see how he can have a conversation with anyone. He can't even watch his own shows. I read once that Curtis Warren used to send lads on cheap flights just to Spain just to pass on a message because he couldn't speak on the phone. And DK is bigger. Ironically, it's probably boxing, which he loves, that has got him all this attention. Nobody screams about his dad or brother.

I know what you mean. It probably was a mistake getting involved in boxing. He draws the heat and like you say, nobody really focusses on his dad and brother. Maybe they are the only people he needs to speak business with at this stage.

[BigEars]

Same way as anybody who runs a medium to large sized business, or operation. You think strategically and delegate. If you saw a lieutenant general day to day you'd see that he does almost fornicate all other than think and have a bit of a chat to a few blokes a rank or two below him but look at what gets done and how many people are doing stuff off the back of that. It's simple really but brilliant.

p.s. definitely don't talk to your wife is important.

But he's so big now I can't even see how he can have a conversation with anyone. He can't even watch his own shows. I read once that Curtis Warren used to send lads on cheap flights just to Spain just to pass on a message because he couldn't speak on the phone. And DK is bigger. Ironically, it's probably boxing, which he loves, that has got him all this attention. Nobody screams about his dad or brother.

I know what you mean. It probably was a mistake getting involved in boxing. He draws the heat and like you say, nobody really focusses on his dad and brother. Maybe they are the only people he needs to speak business with at this stage.

The mistake on DK's part was when he tried to legitimise himself through Tyson Fury mentioning his name openly and believing his past wouldn't come into it.
The Irish government was taking aback by the extent of sports washing that was being attempted and while there was already much work going on behind the scenes against the Kinahan Cartel, that stoked them into life to put a bigger effort into having other countries clamp down on him too.

If Kinahan had stayed quiet behind the scenes with no mention of himself anywhere, I wouldn't be surprised if these sanctions hadn't come about (at least not for a few more years anyway).

To be fair he's been dabbling in boxing for some time now. MTK is 10 years old this year and Kinahan had connections in boxing before that, so it's probably been a fair part of his life for a very long time. Almost hard not to be involved in it I'd say.

[high tower 1]

Bob arum flinging kinahan under the bus in the news. Ironic as he was the best thing since sliced bread last week.

Eddie Hearn probably the only one coming off half decent after all this.

[maverick23]

Bob arum flinging kinahan under the bus in the news. Ironic as he was the best thing since sliced bread last week.

Eddie Hearn probably the only one coming off half decent after all this.

I think it’s hard to know what to do. Eddie hasn’t said a great deal positive or negative about DK which is probably the right thing to do to not piss off those fighters loyal to DK or make himself look stupid for supporting someone who’s seemingly done what DK has.

[Wee Tommy]

Arums a sleazy lying two faced bastard. The sooner boxing is rid of him the better.

[mickey1975]

You know it's bad when everyone says you're the most notorious name ever in boxing just by your initials and you're not even called Don King.

[dookus]

You know it's bad when everyone says you're the most notorious name ever in boxing just by your initials and you're not even called Don King.

[high tower 1]

There were only two figures who called it out over the last few years. Big porky and tyan booth….

All the other journos ran for the hills. Bunce and the GAD take a bow !

[Blueprint]

Bob wants the 5 million reward money.

[maverick23]

Bob wants the 5 million reward money.

I’m surprised Bob’s gone on the offensive so much. There will be several fighters who, regardless of what he’s done, will still like DK.

Jono Carroll has come out saying how thankful he is for everything he’s done for him and that’s still a friend etc.

[brilo33]

he's only a bit dubious, just a little tiny bit.

It's madness the lengths people go to hold water for this dirtball

Like fornicate would I sign with Kinahan and take his blood money, he's a ghoul

i agree with you there to a dergree like i said before there was no doubt who these people are, but all the rest of the promoters have been backed by big gangsters who have been related to double figure murders aswell,it dont make it right why just these lot getting the grief why not every one, like i said before theres no morals in this game its the fighting game, half of the fighters that never made the grade that were watching in times gone by have ended up working muscle for them or there kind , if your a real boxing fan then only amuters for you, look at fighters sonny liston ,rocky marciano when you hear them names what do you think, look i whish there wasnt these people boxing but it is ingrained in it

[Blueprint]

Bob wants the 5 million reward money.

I’m surprised Bob’s gone on the offensive so much. There will be several fighters who, regardless of what he’s done, will still like DK.

Jono Carroll has come out saying how thankful he is for everything he’s done for him and that’s still a friend etc.

I can imagine ESPN/Disney executives are very unhappy about this bad press.

[high tower 1]

Bob arum won’t care about Jono Carroll

[maverick23]

Bob arum won’t care about Jono Carroll

No but Josh Taylor seemed to be a pretty big fan of DK. Fury has openly said it too a few times.

[brilo33]

Bob arum won’t care about Jono Carroll

king kong has been pukka tho , well dubai harbours these people and they own most of are biggest football teams in this country

[TheLeprechaun]

A UFC fighter gave Kinahan a shout out in his post fight interview and then got grilled about it hard in the post fight press conference

[margaret thatcher]

lol dude was uncomfortable as f@ck, did he not expect to get asked about it