BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

[GreenLightning]

I owe a pint to that guy who called it years back he said Daniel is gonna try and crack America and he's gonna be fucked

He actually tried it

[Stevieaber]

Report in The Times today that Matt Macklin was turned back today when he tried to board a plane to the US. Some noise that other ‘boxing figures’ have had the same recently too.

It would appear that more peripheral figures are being dragged into this now.

[maverick23]

Report in The Times today that Matt Macklin was turned back today when he tried to board a plane to the US. Some noise that other ‘boxing figures’ have had the same recently too.

It would appear that more peripheral figures are being dragged into this now.

I wonder how they’ve decided who to block and who to allow over there.

[Blueprint]

Report in The Times today that Matt Macklin was turned back today when he tried to board a plane to the US. Some noise that other ‘boxing figures’ have had the same recently too.

It would appear that more peripheral figures are being dragged into this now.

Makes you wonder if tyson fury is allowed back in the USA?

[Stevieaber]

Difficult to say really. Loads of info has come out recently, which would suggest to me that an even bigger amount of info has been held back. Based on that it’s impossible to know if anything else the authorities hold would brought this action on or not.

The other 2 names I’ve heard are long term Kinahan arse kissers, so it could be just on people who have put themselves forward as friends and allies of DK. Macklin has been his mate for years, had him in his Conner, was involved in MTK with him and was in a property linked to Kinahan when it was raided, so even if there is no proof of a business relationship between the 2, they could easily be seen as being too cosy for the liking of Homeland Security.

[TheLeprechaun]

I doubt Fury can get into the states. Kinahan made millions from being his advisor and his infamous video praising Kinahan really caused a lot of problems. If they banned Kugan and Macklin I'd say the list of people banned from the states now is quite long.

[Stevieaber]

If it’s just for people cheerleading for him Sunny Edwards, BJS, Fury, Jono Carroll are all knackered.

As Tyson has got a house in Vegas, it won’t be long before we find out if he’s on the shit list.

I’d say that the Conlans are probably sweating too.

[mickey1975]

Moore must be on the list. In fact, nearly everyone. Terry from Highfield Boxing podcast spoke almost scared about the situation and that's not like him. He reckons if the whole truth comes out, it could bring down boxing.

[JamesPhilips]

Are IFL TV allowed in or are there links to MTK making them suspects?

[maverick23]

Are IFL TV allowed in or are there links to MTK making them suspects?

Umar IFL Umar made it over there. Kugan actually owns IFL though and clearly did deals with MTK.

[Glass Joe]

Are all these youtubers going to the states on a tourist visa? seems they go regually but been told its pretty hard getting a work visa to the states

[mickey1975]

Kugan will be sick as a pig. It's Canelo fight week as well. Davison is in the shite If he can't get in and Macklin is probably looking at the sack.

[TheLeprechaun]

I'd say Macklin will announce he is resigning from the role next week. Sky Sports giving Fury hard questions about Kinahan when they employ Macklin who was Kinahans "best friend" as he says and legitimized him in boxing is pretty cheap. They also had no problems showing the MTK shows. Interesting to see if fighters continue to work with Davison now. I suspect his training jobs will dry up.

[Bercli]

I'd say Macklin will announce he is resigning from the role next week. Sky Sports giving Fury hard questions about Kinahan when they employ Macklin who was Kinahans "best friend" as he says and legitimized him in boxing is pretty cheap. They also had no problems showing the MTK shows. Interesting to see if fighters continue to work with Davison now. I suspect his training jobs will dry up.

You could be right. Davison is not a trainer. Now MTK has desolved he has no value

[bripez]

Moore must be on the list. In fact, nearly everyone. Terry from Highfield Boxing podcast spoke almost scared about the situation and that's not like him. He reckons if the whole truth comes out, it could bring down boxing.

Nobody has mentioned Frampton?

Wasn't he part of the compo given to Moore?

[a force]

Allegedly Moore got a couple hundred grand & Frampton to train as a sweetener.

[GreenLightning]

Allegedly Moore got a couple hundred grand & Frampton to train as a sweetener.

Kinahans took a few hundred grand off the Hutches not to shoot Gary Hutch and shot him anyway

Yes sadly it looks like the Frampton thing was compo for Moore being shot outside Kinahans place

[GreenLightning]

If it’s just for people cheerleading for him Sunny Edwards, BJS, Fury, Jono Carroll are all knackered.

As Tyson has got a house in Vegas, it won’t be long before we find out if he’s on the shit list.

I’d say that the Conlans are probably sweating too.

Michael Conlon can't distance himself from Kinahan fast enough, it's actually funny

[Stevieaber]

No more Madison Square Garden gigs for Michael

[brilo33]

Mtk I thought it was named after mack the knife. I still think it is fear that made a lot of these boxers cream up to these r eal big time killers. Look at Hollywood they all sucked to winstein they all knew what he was. Fear and trying to progress in a career youve given ur life its a dirty a business. Should the next world champion be net zero and woke as.....

[GreenLightning]

Mtk I thought it was named after mack the knife. I still think it is fear that made a lot of these boxers cream up to these r eal big time killers. Look at Hollywood they all sucked to winstein they all knew what he was. Fear and trying to progress in a career youve given ur life its a dirty a business. Should the next world champion be net zero and woke as.....

Yes Mack the Knife is an old song, I also remember him as a character from Captain Commando

[brilo33]

Mtk I thought it was named after mack the knife. I still think it is fear that made a lot of these boxers cream up to these r eal big time killers. Look at Hollywood they all sucked to winstein they all knew what he was. Fear and trying to progress in a career youve given ur life its a dirty a business. Should the next world champion be net zero and woke as.....

Yes Mack the Knife is an old song, I also remember him as a character from Captain Commando

yea but the original mtk was called mack the knife after macklins nick name they changed it after trouble in Spain I think

[brilo33]

I not saying macklins involved in anything jsut he was popular at the time

[GreenLightning]

Mtk I thought it was named after mack the knife. I still think it is fear that made a lot of these boxers cream up to these r eal big time killers. Look at Hollywood they all sucked to winstein they all knew what he was. Fear and trying to progress in a career youve given ur life its a dirty a business. Should the next world champion be net zero and woke as.....

Yes Mack the Knife is an old song, I also remember him as a character from Captain Commando

yea but the original mtk was called mack the knife after macklins nick name they changed it after trouble in Spain I think

No it was Macklins Gym Marbella, MGM but the MGM Casino threatened to sue so they changed it to Macklins nickname Mack The Knife MTK

[brilo33]

Yes Mack the Knife is an old song, I also remember him as a character from Captain Commando

yea but the original mtk was called mack the knife after macklins nick name they changed it after trouble in Spain I think

No it was Macklins Gym Marbella, MGM but the MGM Casino threatened to sue so they changed it to Macklins nickname Mack The Knife MTK

Yeah true my apologies