Confess your unpopular opinions about Boxing

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"I am interested in boxing and like to watch it."

Seems a pretty unpopular opinion these days, unless someone off YouTube is involved.
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Morales v Barrera 1 WASN’T a robbery.

I had it 115-112 MAB but so many close rounds 114-113 either way you can’t complain.

The 115-112 to el Terrible get in the bin though.

If it’s 113-114 x3 either I think is just about okay.

Shall I get my ass ready for someone to fornicate me for that opinion? :TU:
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Muhammad Ali was not the greatest and he was not a hero and he was a horrible human being who believed in segregation.
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Loma is ridiculously overrated.
Conor Benn will win a world title.
So will Eubank.
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hardcore british fans tend to have a bias against british boxers. perhaps from getting tired of being fed overhype by cheerleader commentators and promoters, and thus wanting them to eat their words/ shut the hell up

agree on benn, i've been saying that for a couple years. think eubank's running out of time and ambition though


johnny fisher looks pretty dumpy so far
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margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Jun 2022, 02:31 hardcore british fans tend to have a bias against british boxers. perhaps from getting tired of being fed overhype by cheerleader commentators and promoters, and thus wanting them to eat their words/ shut the hell up

agree on benn, i've been saying that for a couple years. think eubank's running out of time and ambition though
I noticed that among hardcore fans of many countries.
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Black boxers with exceptions are overall better than white boxers.

There are generic everyday blokes who could beat a decent level pro boxer in a pub carpark fight.
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The best version of Duran would have beaten the best version of Hearns.
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The Docker wrote: 22 Jun 2022, 03:33
There are generic everyday blokes who could beat a decent level pro boxer in a pub carpark fight.
Totally. It’s all about context.
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Stobbo wrote: 22 Jun 2022, 02:21 Loma is ridiculously overrated.
Conor Benn will win a world title.
So will Eubank.
What you mean??

Eubank is already a two-time world champion.

Tick box!

Oh and the WBA ‘interim’ champion. :box:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Jun 2022, 02:31 hardcore british fans tend to have a bias against british boxers. perhaps from getting tired of being fed overhype by cheerleader commentators and promoters, and thus wanting them to eat their words/ shut the hell up
Bang on, boi.

It’s getting even worse these days, too. For example I would love watching Lauren Price get smoked; not because of her but because of the shite. And this is before she’s ever even done her first pro ringwalk.

Getting there with Benn and I can see the same happening with Dalton Smith; I can’t see Hearn putting him in a test anytime soon… but will continue the “best prospect in the world, one of the biggest young talents I’ve ever had” rhetoric for an eternity.




Another unpopular opinion I have. Kariss isn’t gay but been bullied by Price to be a couple.
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Dioufy wrote: 22 Jun 2022, 14:51
margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Jun 2022, 02:31 hardcore british fans tend to have a bias against british boxers. perhaps from getting tired of being fed overhype by cheerleader commentators and promoters, and thus wanting them to eat their words/ shut the hell up
Bang on, boi.

It’s getting even worse these days, too. For example I would love watching Lauren Price get smoked; not because of her but because of the shite. And this is before she’s ever even done her first pro ringwalk.

Getting there with Benn and I can see the same happening with Dalton Smith; I can’t see Hearn putting him in a test anytime soon… but will continue the “best prospect in the world, one of the biggest young talents I’ve ever had” rhetoric for an eternity.




Another unpopular opinion I have. Kariss isn’t gay but been bullied by Price to be a couple.
Nah. Kariss wears the trousers in their relationship.
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I agree with Price-Karriss. I see it a lot these days.
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riddick bowe was MASSIVELY overrated.
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Richard Steele really “didn’t know” there was 2 seconds left when he waved off the JCC/Taylor fight.
Hmmmm
That one still stings
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Ali is not the goat.
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Spud wrote: 15 Jun 2022, 14:46
:" Glass Joe" wrote: 15 Jun 2022, 14:43 Clinton Woods would have beaten Joe Calzaghe in his prime at Light Heavyweight (im going to get slated for that comment)
No your not … Clinton was my favourite fighter.
Yes I liked Clinton as well but Joe would have have been too busy and outbox Clinton imo
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joshj909 wrote: 15 Jun 2022, 14:54 A monopolised UFC model (with better fighter pay) would make boxing a worldwide mainstream sport.
I agree but your forgetting something. There are Too many called governing bodies. I say so called because they are businesses. When I wrote about boxing I never called them world title fights. It was always the WBC,WBA or IBF title. Because that is what they are.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Jun 2022, 02:31 hardcore british fans tend to have a bias against british boxers. perhaps from getting tired of being fed overhype by cheerleader commentators and promoters, and thus wanting them to eat their words/ shut the hell up

agree on benn, i've been saying that for a couple years. think eubank's running out of time and ambition though

I'm not saying anyone can become a world champion but there are so many versions the odds are good. If you have the money you can find a vacant title and certainly find a willing opponent. A good matchmaker will always find the right opponent. Believe me even Jake Paul will become a world champ in 3 years

johnny fisher looks pretty dumpy so far
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843492 wrote: 26 Jun 2022, 09:52 Considering a big part of boxing beïng completely fake and corrupt, even to the point of rare occasions where one boxer recieves an unfair ban for illegal substances he/she never actually had in his/her body or only had so low leftovers of it in his body from a time where it was still legal to use the subtance (Povetkin with Meldonium).

I hate the fact that skills don't really matter inside the boxing world. The top guys are the top guys for decades, simply because they rarely fight. It's very likely that they are not the best boxers at all, but just once made that name and simply avoid all other top contenders unless they have a really really high age or other completely unfair advantages over him/her.
It's more like a popularity contest, a political contest or a way of bribing yourself into the top. Lennox Lewis, Deontay Wilder, Alexander Usyk, are examples of that, Good in politics, or popularity contests, or fight picking, but not actually good in the ring, they just receive the chances and avoid risky fights unless extremely well paid and refs in your advantage that's all.

This is the reason why I love to support the underdogs in boxing, because they are the only ones who receive a chance to take someone from a place he/she doesn't deserve and handle the spot over to a real boxer. Also, I hate guys like Chris Arreola, who allows himself to be hit nonstop by someone he likes and then, when completely unexpectedly he has a fair chance of winning because his opponent broke his hand, he simply stops? Surrenders while sitting on a chair beïng completely fine the moment he heard it?! That's not boxing, that's corruption.
Now that is a very unpopular opinion.
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joshj909 wrote: 26 Jun 2022, 11:29
843492 wrote: 26 Jun 2022, 09:52 Considering a big part of boxing beïng completely fake and corrupt, even to the point of rare occasions where one boxer recieves an unfair ban for illegal substances he/she never actually had in his/her body or only had so low leftovers of it in his body from a time where it was still legal to use the subtance (Povetkin with Meldonium).

I hate the fact that skills don't really matter inside the boxing world. The top guys are the top guys for decades, simply because they rarely fight. It's very likely that they are not the best boxers at all, but just once made that name and simply avoid all other top contenders unless they have a really really high age or other completely unfair advantages over him/her.
It's more like a popularity contest, a political contest or a way of bribing yourself into the top. Lennox Lewis, Deontay Wilder, Alexander Usyk, are examples of that, Good in politics, or popularity contests, or fight picking, but not actually good in the ring, they just receive the chances and avoid risky fights unless extremely well paid and refs in your advantage that's all.

This is the reason why I love to support the underdogs in boxing, because they are the only ones who receive a chance to take someone from a place he/she doesn't deserve and handle the spot over to a real boxer. Also, I hate guys like Chris Arreola, who allows himself to be hit nonstop by someone he likes and then, when completely unexpectedly he has a fair chance of winning because his opponent broke his hand, he simply stops? Surrenders while sitting on a chair beïng completely fine the moment he heard it?! That's not boxing, that's corruption.
Now that is a very unpopular opinion.
Lennox being included is ridiculous. he fought everyone. cleaned out an era. except bowe who bottled it.
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Kariss Artingstall is a solid 9/10 on the bangable graph.
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843492 wrote: 26 Jun 2022, 09:52 I hate the fact that skills don't really matter inside the boxing world. The top guys are the top guys for decades, simply because they rarely fight. It's very likely that they are not the best boxers at all, but just once made that name and simply avoid all other top contenders unless they have a really really high age or other completely unfair advantages over him/her.
It's more like a popularity contest, a political contest or a way of bribing yourself into the top. Lennox Lewis, Deontay Wilder, Alexander Usyk, are examples of that, Good in politics, or popularity contests, or fight picking, but not actually good in the ring, they just receive the chances and avoid risky fights unless extremely well paid and refs in your advantage that's all.
Trolling hard there.
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Lightsoot wrote: 15 Jun 2022, 08:39 The thread title is self explanatory, but is intended to confess your (more controversial) opinions on boxing / boxers which you’ve possibly kept to yourself, until now…

I’ll start off with a couple of my own.

1. I want women’s boxing to go to 3 minute rounds so that a) more women get knocked out which might lead to be b) more exciting fights and / or c) less womens fights televised because viewers find women getting knocked out as unsavoury,

2. Mike Costello is completely overrated as a commentator. He’s not even the best commentator on DAZN.

3. Prince Naseem was a total let down who quit the first time he got shown his arse. He’s not fit to be fondly remembered, never should be in the Hall of Fame and should have received more stick for retiring.

Over to you.
Great post, and I'm in agreement with all your 3

I've been reflecting on all these bad/corrupt judges.
How bout we get rid of them. If you're the Challenger you have to knock the Champ out. If you don't, the Champ retains the belt. No judges required.
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Lightsoot wrote: 15 Jun 2022, 08:39
3. Prince Naseem was a total let down who quit the first time he got shown his arse. He’s not fit to be fondly remembered, never should be in the Hall of Fame and should have received more stick for retiring.

Over to you.
Like Mike Tyson, Naz could have been a GOAT if money and family/relationships didn't get in the way. Crime we never saw Naz in more big fights like Morales and maybe even Mayweather.
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