Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Luis Ortiz | FOX PPV - September 4, 2022

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Just seen the undercard - crap.

Yeh. Typical PBC undercard.

It’s not an undercard without Abner Mares!!

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Abner Mares: Let Me Remind Everyone, I'm a Bad M-f'er in The Ring!

"I know everyone is used to seeing me suited and booted on T.V. talking about the beautiful sport of boxing, but let me remind everyone, I'm a bad m-f'er in the ring, and on September 4, the world is going to remember what they missed,” said Mares.

“I’m the best in boxing in speed, power, intelligence, and good looks. Miguel Flores is on my radar, and I'm sorry to say, he's going back to elementary school after meeting me. I'm a master in this game, and I'm back. Welcome to Team Mares 2022."

“I’m very motivated to be on the big stage once again and I’m excited to get into the ring,” said Flores. “This is a huge opportunity for me against a three-division champion and I’m doing everything I can to make the most of it. This is Michoacán vs. Guadalajara and we’re going to give all the fans a great show on September 4.”

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Luis Ortiz Vows Statement: I'll Do Whatever It Takes To Go Through Andy Ruiz!

“I’m so excited to get back in the ring in front of all of my fans in Los Angeles on September 4,” said Ruiz. “This is my chance to prove to everyone that I’m going to be heavyweight champion of the world again. I’m super motivated to be facing a great fighter like Luis Ortiz, so my fans can expect to see me at my best. Everyone has wanted to see this fight and we’re going to give everyone a war on fight night.”

“I’m blessed to be back in a position to get closer to achieving my goal of becoming the first heavyweight champion of the world from Cuba,” said Ortiz.

“Anyone who doubts me, has only fueled me to keep going. I know that I have to make a big statement in this fight, and that’s my plan on September 4. I respect Andy Ruiz, but he’s standing in my way and I’m going to do whatever it takes to go through him.”

[H8Usernames]

Doesn't Ortiz beat him?

[bobcatbox]

Insulting that this is a PPV.

[KiwiRider]

Insulting that this is a PPV.

It's the way of boxing.
Two heavyweights firmly in the "who cares" category, in what should be a fun fight to nothing, and a dire undercard.
Now stop your moaning and cough up your cash already

[Evander]

Gotta lean toward Ruiz even though Ortiz is a decent boxer, can`t help but think that Ortiz is just too old at this point.

I had him trailing badly against Martin, and Andy is quite a bit more of a handful if he is motivated in camp.

Ortiz is just too old and may have a problem taking Ruiz big shots at some point I would have thought.

[Evander]

Insulting that this is a PPV.

It's the way of boxing.
Two heavyweights firmly in the "who cares" category, in what should be a fun fight to nothing, and a dire undercard.
Now stop your moaning and cough up your cash already

PPV's don't help when they inundate us with them, the cost and frequency has always been the problem.

[KiwiRider]

Insulting that this is a PPV.

It's the way of boxing.
Two heavyweights firmly in the "who cares" category, in what should be a fun fight to nothing, and a dire undercard.
Now stop your moaning and cough up your cash already

PPV's don't help when they inundate us with them, the cost and frequency has always been the problem.

It's actually pricing me out of boxing mate. I can't afford all the various subscriptions and PPVs on top of all that. And most are not even value for money IMO.
This ain't value for money, the undercard, well I've seen worse, but not a lot worse. And who the hell gets off thinking these guys are pay per view stars?
They simply aren't, and without a solid card to back it up you would have to be a mug to waste your money on this.

[Evander]

It's the way of boxing.
Two heavyweights firmly in the "who cares" category, in what should be a fun fight to nothing, and a dire undercard.
Now stop your moaning and cough up your cash already

PPV's don't help when they inundate us with them, the cost and frequency has always been the problem.

It's actually pricing me out of boxing mate. I can't afford all the various subscriptions and PPVs on top of all that. And most are not even value for money IMO.
This ain't value for money, the undercard, well I've seen worse, but not a lot worse. And who the hell gets off thinking these guys are pay per view stars?
They simply aren't, and without a solid card to back it up you would have to be a mug to waste your money on this.

Yeah well, there's ways around it.

[Bandog]

Gotta lean toward Ruiz even though Ortiz is a decent boxer, can`t help but think that Ortiz is just too old at this point.

I had him trailing badly against Martin, and Andy is quite a bit more of a handful if he is motivated in camp.

Ortiz is just too old and may have a problem taking Ruiz big shots at some point I would have thought.

Big shots from Ruiz? Arreola is pretty pathetic these days, and made it through. Maybe Ruiz is thinking he waited until Ortiz got old?

This is a really stupid fight for Ruiz to take at his age. A no win situation. It will be really damaging to his career if he loses.

[joshj909]

I had him trailing badly against Martin, and Andy is quite a bit more of a handful if he is motivated in camp.

Ortiz is just too old and may have a problem taking Ruiz big shots at some point I would have thought.

Big shots from Ruiz? Arreola is pretty pathetic these days, and made it through. Maybe Ruiz is thinking he waited until Ortiz got old?

This is a really stupid fight for Ruiz to take at his age. A no win situation. It will be really damaging to his career if he loses.

I think, if anything, it shows how thin PBC's heavyweight roster is with Wilder out which doesn't help that they do like to do fights between two Haymon advised guys.

[gregregegg]

Its a semi fun undercard And would be fine if there was a mega main event, or it was a free show. But considering the main event is weak this undercard wont help sales.... Is it going to be the full whack? or they going to try another 30-40 dollarer?

[AngryGoon38]

This ones actually Really Tough to predict.
I could see it going either way.
Ortiz Could get Ruiz out of there early, by way of TKO win, from scoring 3 knockdowns.
I've never seen Ruiz against a southpaw. It may prove to be his True Achilles.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be Shocked if Ruiz just Barrels right in and Overwhelms Old Man Ortiz.
Overall, a relatively interesting Clash of Fringe Contenders.
Should be Fun while it lasts. I have a feeling that Both are going to be going for an early round finish.

[H8Usernames]

What might happen is that Ortiz just shuts Ruiz out. That southpaw jab of his is not easy to get past. If parker managed to get a decision against him then that shouldn't be hard for Ortiz to achieve.

[Enlightened-One]

What might happen is that Ortiz just shuts Ruiz out. That southpaw jab of his is not easy to get past. If parker managed to get a decision against him then that shouldn't be hard for Ortiz to achieve.

You didn’t watch the Ruiz-Parker fight, did you?

Andy Ruiz Jr. beat Joseph Parker. The Mexican-American lost by a hometown decision.

The judges’ scoring for the Ruiz Jr. fight was deemed so bad that the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president actually resigned because of it.

He even said, “It’s bulls****, Joseph Parker didn’t win...I scored it 118-111 in favour of Ruiz”.

[KiwiRider]

This ones actually Really Tough to predict.
I could see it going either way.
Ortiz Could get Ruiz out of there early, by way of TKO win, from scoring 3 knockdowns.
I've never seen Ruiz against a southpaw. It may prove to be his True Achilles.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be Shocked if Ruiz just Barrels right in and Overwhelms Old Man Ortiz.
Overall, a relatively interesting Clash of Fringe Contenders.
Should be Fun while it lasts. I have a feeling that Both are going to be going for an early round finish.

All of those are possible
I would like to add how the Charles Martin Vs Ortiz fight went too.
That is a distinct possibility, where Ortiz gets outworked, relies on his chin, and as soon as Andy takes his foot off the gas Ortiz stops him

[H8Usernames]

What might happen is that Ortiz just shuts Ruiz out. That southpaw jab of his is not easy to get past. If parker managed to get a decision against him then that shouldn't be hard for Ortiz to achieve.

You didn’t watch the Ruiz-Parker fight, did you?

Andy Ruiz Jr. beat Joseph Parker. The Mexican-American lost by a hometown decision.

The judges’ scoring for the Ruiz Jr. fight was deemed so bad that the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president actually resigned because of it.

He even said, “It’s bulls****, Joseph Parker didn’t win...I scored it 118-111 in favour of Ruiz”.

Didn't watch it no. Wasn't aware that it had been such a robbery.

But Andy Ruiz did let lousy Anthony Joshua shut him out so if lousy AJ could do that then AR probably isn't getting anywhere close to Ortiz.

[Enlightened-One]

Didn't watch it no. Wasn't aware that it had been such a robbery.

But Andy Ruiz did let lousy Anthony Joshua shut him out...

Agreed.

...so if lousy AJ could do that then AR probably isn't getting anywhere close to Ortiz.

Are you seriously comparing a prime iteration of Anthony Joshua to a 43½ year old version of Luis Ortiz, with the Cuban’s only notable victory within the last 6½ years was when he had to get off the canvas twice to beat the unimpressive Charles Martin?

I’m not the biggest AJ fan, but he’s definitely much better than today’s version of Luis Ortiz.

[gregregegg]

What might happen is that Ortiz just shuts Ruiz out. That southpaw jab of his is not easy to get past. If parker managed to get a decision against him then that shouldn't be hard for Ortiz to achieve.

You didn’t watch the Ruiz-Parker fight, did you?

Andy Ruiz Jr. beat Joseph Parker. The Mexican-American lost by a hometown decision.

The judges’ scoring for the Ruiz Jr. fight was deemed so bad that the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president actually resigned because of it.

He even said, “It’s bulls****, Joseph Parker didn’t win...I scored it 118-111 in favour of Ruiz”.

Wasnt a robbery. It was a very close fight. from memory i had it a draw, but could of been close either way. fairly sure parker threw more and outlanded ruiz, and neither hurt the other.

If you story about NZ pro boxing association president is true he is mad, having only 2 rounds to parker would be a truely insane card.

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What might happen is that Ortiz just shuts Ruiz out. That southpaw jab of his is not easy to get past. If parker managed to get a decision against him then that shouldn't be hard for Ortiz to achieve.

You didn’t watch the Ruiz-Parker fight, did you?

Andy Ruiz Jr. beat Joseph Parker. The Mexican-American lost by a hometown decision.

The judges’ scoring for the Ruiz Jr. fight was deemed so bad that the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president actually resigned because of it.

He even said, “It’s bulls****, Joseph Parker didn’t win...I scored it 118-111 in favour of Ruiz”.

Wasnt a robbery. It was a very close fight. from memory i had it a draw, but could of been close either way. fairly sure parker threw more and outlanded ruiz, and neither hurt the other.

If you story about NZ pro boxing association president is true he is mad, having only 2 rounds to parker would be a truely insane card.

I had Ruiz but only by one round.. Could have gone either way.

Wasn't a robbery.

[Enlightened-One]

What might happen is that Ortiz just shuts Ruiz out. That southpaw jab of his is not easy to get past. If parker managed to get a decision against him then that shouldn't be hard for Ortiz to achieve.

You didn’t watch the Ruiz-Parker fight, did you?

Andy Ruiz Jr. beat Joseph Parker. The Mexican-American lost by a hometown decision.

The judges’ scoring for the Ruiz Jr. fight was deemed so bad that the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president actually resigned because of it.

He even said, “It’s bulls****, Joseph Parker didn’t win...I scored it 118-111 in favour of Ruiz”.

Wasnt a robbery. It was a very close fight. from memory i had it a draw, but could of been close either way. fairly sure parker threw more and outlanded ruiz, and neither hurt the other.

If you story about NZ pro boxing association president is true he is mad, having only 2 rounds to parker would be a truely insane card.

I didn't score the fight as wide as Lance Revill (the former Kiwi boxing president) scored it, but Andy Ruiz Jr. definitely beat Joseph Parker.

It was a competitive bout, for sure, but Ruiz Jr. probably lost due to hometown bias.

[Ruthless-RKO]

You didn’t watch the Ruiz-Parker fight, did you?

Andy Ruiz Jr. beat Joseph Parker. The Mexican-American lost by a hometown decision.

The judges’ scoring for the Ruiz Jr. fight was deemed so bad that the New Zealand Professional Boxing Association president actually resigned because of it.

He even said, “It’s bulls****, Joseph Parker didn’t win...I scored it 118-111 in favour of Ruiz”.

Wasnt a robbery. It was a very close fight. from memory i had it a draw, but could of been close either way. fairly sure parker threw more and outlanded ruiz, and neither hurt the other.

If you story about NZ pro boxing association president is true he is mad, having only 2 rounds to parker would be a truely insane card.

I didn't score the fight as wide as Lance Revill (the former Kiwi boxing president) scored it, but Andy Ruiz Jr. definitely beat Joseph Parker.

It was a competitive bout, for sure, but Ruiz Jr. probably lost due to hometown bias.

Not surprising though is it?

[Evander]

I had him trailing badly against Martin, and Andy is quite a bit more of a handful if he is motivated in camp.

Ortiz is just too old and may have a problem taking Ruiz big shots at some point I would have thought.

Big shots from Ruiz? Arreola is pretty pathetic these days, and made it through. Maybe Ruiz is thinking he waited until Ortiz got old?

This is a really stupid fight for Ruiz to take at his age. A no win situation. It will be really damaging to his career if he loses.

Boxing a name opponent keeps him in the frame for the big paydays, he has to do it.

[Enlightened-One]