BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Who enters at #15?

Michael Hunter
2
7%
Ali Eren Demirezen
3
11%
Hughie Fury
2
7%
Daniel Dubois
8
30%
Filip Hrgovic
6
22%
Tony Yoka
1
4%
Other (please state)
0
No votes
No one yet (wait til next week)
5
19%
 
Total votes: 27

Ruthless-RKO
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

The vote is over.

No change. There seems to be a split in what should happen. Let's see some of these guys actually pick up some decent wins.

Current ranking:
Image ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: 20.08.2022 vs ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 (#3)

2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 - next fight: 20.08.2022 vs. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 19(13) 0 0 (#2)

3. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

4. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: 24.09.2022 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 14(13) 0 0 - (#8)

5. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: 04.09.2022 vs. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 2(2) 0 (#9)

7. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 14(13) 0 0 - next fight: 24.09.2022 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 - (#5)

8. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 04.09.2022 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 (#7)

9. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 12(3) 0 - next fight:TBA

10. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฉ Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Otto Wallin - 24(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ Robert Helenius - 31(20) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Frank Sanchez - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

14. ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. unranked
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Post by KiwiRider »

Thanks for your work Ruthie :salut:

It's reflected in the top 15 not having a #15.
They aren't fighting each other, most aren't even fighting, just getting older.
Hopefully things heat up towards the end of the year.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Post by gregregegg »

Well zhang vs hrgovic didnt clear anything up did it.
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Post by margaret thatcher »

leaves more questions than we had before :lol:
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Thatโ€™s a shame..

Weโ€™ll put the two fights to a vote tomorrow.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Post by cpx2 »

Where do we sit on Fury vote-wise? Will he be back in these rankings if the WBC haven't stripped him by the 26th?
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Post by joshj909 »

cpx2 wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 08:26 Where do we sit on Fury vote-wise? Will he be back in these rankings if the WBC haven't stripped him by the 26th?
Personally, i'd take him out until he has something scheduled or atleast looks like things are being scheduled.
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Post by Ruthless-RKO »

joshj909 wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 08:51
cpx2 wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 08:26 Where do we sit on Fury vote-wise? Will he be back in these rankings if the WBC haven't stripped him by the 26th?
Personally, i'd take him out until he has something scheduled or atleast looks like things are being scheduled.
Iโ€™m in agreement.

Ring and TBRB removed him.

Somethingโ€™s gotta give. You gonna keep screaming retirement and do speeches and give your thanks then do one.

We need to move on.

If he scheduled a fight then yeh, I say we can vote him back in. Until then, he can sit at home.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 09:06
joshj909 wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 08:51
cpx2 wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 08:26 Where do we sit on Fury vote-wise? Will he be back in these rankings if the WBC haven't stripped him by the 26th?
Personally, i'd take him out until he has something scheduled or atleast looks like things are being scheduled.
Iโ€™m in agreement.

Ring and TBRB removed him.

Somethingโ€™s gotta give. You gonna keep screaming retirement and do speeches and give your thanks then do one.

We need to move on.

If he scheduled a fight then yeh, I say we can vote him back in. Until then, he can sit at home.
Agree, leave him out until he's got something lined up. I suppose it would've made this vote a bit more intriguing seeing if people felt Usyk should be above Fury - it's a bit of a formality as it stands leaving him at 1.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Post by DrDuke »

Zhang deserves it, but technically he can't be there. Hrgovic can't be placed with such woefeful 'win'.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Post by Perkin Warbeck »

Hrgovic should be placed at #15.
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Post by joshj909 »

Wonder how many will go with Hrgovic to 14 and Zhang to 15 with Pulev dropping out?
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Post by Ruthless-RKO »

joshj909 wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 12:26 Wonder how many will go with Hrgovic to 14 and Zhang to 15 with Pulev dropping out?
Itโ€™s a shout for sure.

Will consider Zhang to enter and someone to drop.

Will put that to the poll for sure.
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joshj909 wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 12:26 Wonder how many will go with Hrgovic to 14 and Zhang to 15 with Pulev dropping out?
Good shout. However, Both Hrgovic-Zhang and Chisora-Pulev could have gone either way. Like, Rizla paper thin decisions. It would be good to see Zhang and Pulev face off for that position. Pulev is, after all, the more decorated contender.

I personally am still not comfortable with Chisora being top 10. And I'm a fan. He should have been years ago, but now it just doesn't seem right. He's shot.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Post by Finkel »

Personally I would put Zhang to #15 in protest.
He was jobbed on the cards there. Two judges scoring 8 rounds to Hrgovic?! Ridiculous for anyone scoring that fight round by round with their eyes open.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Post by cpx2 »

May be in the minority, and I thought Zhang did some of the more eye-catching work, but I didn't have a problem with the 114-113 card. I felt he won the fight, despite a decidedly abject performance.

Would love to see Zhang in with Chisora or something though. He's good to watch.
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cpx2 wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 15:27 May be in the minority, and I thought Zhang did some of the more eye-catching work, but I didn't have a problem with the 114-113 card. I felt he won the fight, despite a decidedly abject performance.

Would love to see Zhang in with Chisora or something though. He's good to watch.
Fair enough, I didn't have an issue with the 114-113 either. I did with the two 115-112 cards though.
I think most people would have accepted a win for Zhang or a draw, or even a split for Hrg. But a UD win with those cards... Dodgy

That was voting based on national politics the same you see on the Eurovision song contest. The winner was pre decided
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Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Seemed like throughout the fight, Zhang wanted it more.
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Post by tiny_acres »

I do not consider either Zhang or Hrgovic top 15.
Zhang in my opinion lost to Jerry Forrest and most on here have said Zhang was a bum and a knockout loss waiting to happen. And I thought he clearly beat Hrgovic who looks to be declining rapidly.
Neither should enter the top 15
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Post by oogiebe »

tiny_acres wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 16:08 I do not consider either Zhang or Hrgovic top 15.
Zhang in my opinion lost to Jerry Forrest and most on here have said Zhang was a bum and a knockout loss waiting to happen. And I thought he clearly beat Hrgovic who looks to be declining rapidly.
Neither should enter the top 15
:TU: Yup.
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Post by Ruthless-RKO »

oogiebe wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 16:38
tiny_acres wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 16:08 I do not consider either Zhang or Hrgovic top 15.
Zhang in my opinion lost to Jerry Forrest and most on here have said Zhang was a bum and a knockout loss waiting to happen. And I thought he clearly beat Hrgovic who looks to be declining rapidly.
Neither should enter the top 15
:TU: Yup.
The commentary team kept going on about how unhealthy he was for that fight. I mean his own fault..
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 15:51 Seemed like throughout the fight, Zhang wanted it more.
I didn't score it, so I can't say who won either way. But Zhang had so many long gaps between throwing punches it was concerning. I mean for half a round he just bumbled about :maybe:
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Post by HomicideHenry »

I think BoxRec has done a major disservice by taking Tyson Fury out of the number one spot because it is so obvious to everyone with a functioning brain cell that the whole retirement thing was nothing more than a promotional ploy to set up the undisputed fight with Usyk.

Whoever controls the rankings at BoxRec needs to really get a clue and put Fury back in there as the number one heavyweight before they do themselves a major embarrassment if Fury actually beats Usyk.

This will be nothing more than a repeat of history with Richard Kyle Fox backing Jake Kilrain over John L Sullivan when everybody knew that John L Sullivan was the true heavyweight champion of the world.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Post by margaret thatcher »

ah, the fury cockgobbler has spoken :lol:
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margaret thatcher wrote: โ†‘21 Aug 2022, 17:12 ah, the fury cockgobbler has spoken :lol:
:oo
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