Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[garethhop]

Let's also note here that everytime Tyson pops up so does Eddie Hearn too. Pair as bad of each other, other than the fact that one of them will be stepping in the ring so can absolutely choose wtf they want to do.

[mickey1975]

Let's also note here that everytime Tyson pops up so does Eddie Hearn too. Pair as bad of each other, other than the fact that one of them will be stepping in the ring so can absolutely choose wtf they want to do.

As Eddie always says, they work for the fighter. He made that very clear when Eubank sr wanted to pull Jr out... "thankfully, we don't have a contract with sr". Well, he has to listen to the fighter again, only this time he might not like what he hears.

[The Gratest]

40% of a free fight is 0. That will piss Eddie off.

[mickey1975]

I don't think Hearn ever wanted this.

[maverick23]

Let's also note here that everytime Tyson pops up so does Eddie Hearn too. Pair as bad of each other, other than the fact that one of them will be stepping in the ring so can absolutely choose wtf they want to do.

I’m not surprised Eddie’s popping up. Tyson’s giving these random deadlines that his team aren’t even working to, changing his mind on things whilst Matchroom and Queensbury are seemingly working hard behind the scenes to get what will be a fairly complex deal sorted.

Frank was on TalkSPORT this morning saying they sent a revised contract over yesterday afternoon and are awaiting a response now. Whether he likes it or not it takes a bit of time.

[blanca]

To suggest fury is ducking AJ is laughable. He'd mess the big stiff idiot up. Unfortunately this is about Hearn being a greedy dick. Your man just got battered, again, you're gonna have to take an unfavourable deal to get him his chance, you can't act all billy big bollox.

Hardly laughable. Is there a better fight out there now Fury’s avoiding Usyk? You support Charr or Chisora?

Im talking about fury apparently avoiding aj, not usyk and not fury v charr or chisora. why would he avoid someone who he would handle easily? He went over and took on wilder when everyone was saying wilder was a straight up killer...meanwhile aj has lost to mr staypuft and a blown up cruiser twice. And im no fury fanboy. I think its funny that hearn and aj think he deserves a world title fight off 2 defeats. Get to the back of the queue imo.

[maverick23]

Let's also note here that everytime Tyson pops up so does Eddie Hearn too. Pair as bad of each other, other than the fact that one of them will be stepping in the ring so can absolutely choose wtf they want to do.

As Eddie always says, they work for the fighter. He made that very clear when Eubank sr wanted to pull Jr out... "thankfully, we don't have a contract with sr". Well, he has to listen to the fighter again, only this time he might not like what he hears.

Yeah - he probably doesn’t like hearing from Tyson that he’s fighting Manuel Charr.

[blanca]

To suggest fury is ducking AJ is laughable. He'd mess the big stiff idiot up. Unfortunately this is about Hearn being a greedy dick. Your man just got battered, again, you're gonna have to take an unfavourable deal to get him his chance, you can't act all billy big bollox.

How do you know it’s about Hearn being greedy? They were fine with the % split but the networks that the fighters are contractually bound to fight on (Fury in the U.K. and US and AJ globally) only met on Monday afternoon. No way was it getting signed by Fury’s childish deadline.

Aj doesnt deserve a title fight regardless. He should be grateful for another go at the belt after 2 straight defeats. He and hearn are in no position to demand much at all.

[maverick23]

To suggest fury is ducking AJ is laughable. He'd mess the big stiff idiot up. Unfortunately this is about Hearn being a greedy dick. Your man just got battered, again, you're gonna have to take an unfavourable deal to get him his chance, you can't act all billy big bollox.

How do you know it’s about Hearn being greedy? They were fine with the % split but the networks that the fighters are contractually bound to fight on (Fury in the U.K. and US and AJ globally) only met on Monday afternoon. No way was it getting signed by Fury’s childish deadline.

Aj doesnt deserve a title fight regardless. He should be grateful for another go at the belt after 2 straight defeats. He and hearn are in no position to demand much at all.

They’re not demanding much seemingly other than transparency on the numbers, being involved in the promotion to maximise AJ’s % income and to be able to meet their contractual broadcast obligations. Is that unreasonable? Or should they have just signed the first contract that came their way and to hell with their existing contracts?

[mickey1975]

Let's also note here that everytime Tyson pops up so does Eddie Hearn too. Pair as bad of each other, other than the fact that one of them will be stepping in the ring so can absolutely choose wtf they want to do.

I’m not surprised Eddie’s popping up. Tyson’s giving these random deadlines that his team aren’t even working to, changing his mind on things whilst Matchroom and Queensbury are seemingly working hard behind the scenes to get what will be a fairly complex deal sorted.

Frank was on TalkSPORT this morning saying they sent a revised contract over yesterday afternoon and are awaiting a response now. Whether he likes it or not it takes a bit of time.

He's also said he can't get hold of them today... obvious what they are doing.

[Frostieballs]

To suggest fury is ducking AJ is laughable. He'd mess the big stiff idiot up. Unfortunately this is about Hearn being a greedy dick. Your man just got battered, again, you're gonna have to take an unfavourable deal to get him his chance, you can't act all billy big bollox.

How do you know it’s about Hearn being greedy? They were fine with the % split but the networks that the fighters are contractually bound to fight on (Fury in the U.K. and US and AJ globally) only met on Monday afternoon. No way was it getting signed by Fury’s childish deadline.

Aj doesnt deserve a title fight regardless. He should be grateful for another go at the belt after 2 straight defeats. He and hearn are in no position to demand much at all.

Mate - they didn’t demand anything.

They were ‘offered’ this fight out the blue.

[Twinkle Toes]

Fury never expected any talks. George is having to beg him now to let them carry on sorting out the finer points of a contract he never wanted.

No idea why Fury fans are so worried about him fighting Joshua and prefer him to cement his lgacy aggainst Charr

[The Gratest]

I don't think Hearn ever wanted this.

A fight for free? I don't think any promoter would want that, including Frank.
I also don't think Frank will want to be stumping up the £half billion Fury wants to fight Usyk.

[tonyevs]

That Joshua lost his last 2 to a guy arguable the top 1 or 2nd best guy in the division doesn't detract from the fact he is still the 3rd or 4th best heavyweight in the division .. and a fight that would sell very well in the UK.

For that reason a fight with Fury makes perfect sense.

However It's becoming blatantly obvious Fury wasn't serious when he initially called Joshua out - fWank wants the fight clearly because he knows it's probably one of the biggest out there and he wants his percentage ... Fury simply wants to swerve it.

He looks increasingly agitated making his excuses. Joshua is mentally winning this at the moment, and it's not a position Fury is used to.

[maverick23]

Let's also note here that everytime Tyson pops up so does Eddie Hearn too. Pair as bad of each other, other than the fact that one of them will be stepping in the ring so can absolutely choose wtf they want to do.

I’m not surprised Eddie’s popping up. Tyson’s giving these random deadlines that his team aren’t even working to, changing his mind on things whilst Matchroom and Queensbury are seemingly working hard behind the scenes to get what will be a fairly complex deal sorted.

Frank was on TalkSPORT this morning saying they sent a revised contract over yesterday afternoon and are awaiting a response now. Whether he likes it or not it takes a bit of time.

He's also said he can't get hold of them today... obvious what they are doing.

Eddie said he spoke to George last night and that comments on the contract they received yesterday will be with them today. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

Just because they didn’t answer the phone this morning means it’s obvious what they’re doing? They were probably in panic mode because they’ve seen Tyson give another deadline on Instagram followed by an announcement that he’s fighting Charr.

[blanca]

How do you know it’s about Hearn being greedy? They were fine with the % split but the networks that the fighters are contractually bound to fight on (Fury in the U.K. and US and AJ globally) only met on Monday afternoon. No way was it getting signed by Fury’s childish deadline.

Aj doesnt deserve a title fight regardless. He should be grateful for another go at the belt after 2 straight defeats. He and hearn are in no position to demand much at all.

Mate - they didn’t demand anything.

They were ‘offered’ this fight out the blue.

They obvs have demands or they would sign the contract. Unless the contract is absolutely horrendous he should sign as he is being gifted a chance which he doesnt deserve.

[Wee Tommy]

To suggest fury is ducking AJ is laughable. He'd mess the big stiff idiot up. Unfortunately this is about Hearn being a greedy dick. Your man just got battered, again, you're gonna have to take an unfavourable deal to get him his chance, you can't act all billy big bollox.

Hardly laughable. Is there a better fight out there now Fury’s avoiding Usyk? You support Charr or Chisora?

Im talking about fury apparently avoiding aj, not usyk and not fury v charr or chisora. why would he avoid someone who he would handle easily? He went over and took on wilder when everyone was saying wilder was a straight up killer...meanwhile aj has lost to mr staypuft and a blown up cruiser twice. And im no fury fanboy. I think its funny that hearn and aj think he deserves a world title fight off 2 defeats. Get to the back of the queue imo.

A lot of hyperbole there mate. Wilder a straight up killer? Come on. Only idiots thought that after his shite performances.

Your maybe not a Fury fanboy but you seem to hate AJ.

Blown up cruiser? Your just sounding worse and worse

[Nightmare Roy]

Aj doesnt deserve a title fight regardless. He should be grateful for another go at the belt after 2 straight defeats. He and hearn are in no position to demand much at all.

Mate - they didn’t demand anything.

They were ‘offered’ this fight out the blue.

They obvs have demands or they would sign the contract. Unless the contract is absolutely horrendous he should sign as he is being gifted a chance which he doesnt deserve.

Maybe elements of it might be horrendous?

[mickey1975]

David Higgins said it could be easily done and it took three days to tie up the Parker v AJ fight.

[The Gratest]

What was David Higgins doing at the meeting on Monday?

[blanca]

Hardly laughable. Is there a better fight out there now Fury’s avoiding Usyk? You support Charr or Chisora?

Im talking about fury apparently avoiding aj, not usyk and not fury v charr or chisora. why would he avoid someone who he would handle easily? He went over and took on wilder when everyone was saying wilder was a straight up killer...meanwhile aj has lost to mr staypuft and a blown up cruiser twice. And im no fury fanboy. I think its funny that hearn and aj think he deserves a world title fight off 2 defeats. Get to the back of the queue imo.

A lot of hyperbole there mate. Wilder a straight up killer? Come on. Only idiots thought that after his shite performances.

Your maybe not a Fury fanboy but you seem to hate AJ.

Blown up cruiser? Your just sounding worse and worse

So usyk is a natural heavyweight? and yes people did say wilder was a beast, no wonder aj was steered away from him. Whatever, fury gets too much shite on this forum.

[margaret thatcher]

usyk > wilder

[Wee Tommy]

usyk > wilder

By a long long chalk.

[handsofstone]

Its mental how bias and dislike for someone can blind them to the reality of what's going on here, there's plenty of fighters I don't like but I'll always give them their props if they deserve it, I'm fans of fighters but if they're taking the piss then I'll say their taking the piss, especially when it comes to making fights, can't stand twitter and intsagram beefs, Fury the worlds worst, Ryan Garcia another helmet, these guys have more on common with the likes of Jake Paul than they think

[Wee Tommy]

Im talking about fury apparently avoiding aj, not usyk and not fury v charr or chisora. why would he avoid someone who he would handle easily? He went over and took on wilder when everyone was saying wilder was a straight up killer...meanwhile aj has lost to mr staypuft and a blown up cruiser twice. And im no fury fanboy. I think its funny that hearn and aj think he deserves a world title fight off 2 defeats. Get to the back of the queue imo.

A lot of hyperbole there mate. Wilder a straight up killer? Come on. Only idiots thought that after his shite performances.

Your maybe not a Fury fanboy but you seem to hate AJ.

Blown up cruiser? Your just sounding worse and worse

So usyk is a natural heavyweight? and yes people did say wilder was a beast, no wonder aj was steered away from him. Whatever, fury gets too much shite on this forum.

He very well could be a beast, he’s certainly a weird guy what with all the mad excuses he came out with and boasting he wants ‘a body’ on his record.

He’s a shite boxer though. Way worse than Joshua.