Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[coneye]

How come the last few years Fury just keeps harping on and on and on about AJ , yet always puts obstacles in the way , i don't know if Fury will beat AJ or vice versa ,, but what i do know is every time he wants a gimmee fight he loves to call out AJ who for all intent purposes must now be sick of accepting , then having obstacles in the way (wilder ) now stupid deadlines , C,mon really whats the big deal about early or mid december except for an excuse ,, these ridiculous deadlines are just that ridiculous , its NEVER going to be easy when both boxers have contractual relationships with other big companys who have a vested interest

TBF the 1st thing Joshua did after beating Klitschko was to call out Fury (who was weighing 27 stone at the time). He's not seen so keen since he shifted that weight.

Erm, AJ signed to box Fury last year and then Fury pulled out to box Wilder for a third time having just beat him conclusively.

It's strange how it works out because Fury must have a very good chance of winning the AJ fight, he certainly says it will be easy pickings, but yet it never comes off.I genuinely don't understand why it doesn't happen.

The things that impresses me most about Fury, which really makes him so tough to beat ( aside from his skill set) is his phenomenal stamina. I just don't know how a guy that big can retain his fitness so well throughout a hard 12 rounds. I think that's what gives him the edge on everyone ( except for Joyce maybe?).

You know what I AGREE WITH YOU I do actually think that fury as the movement , the skills , the size to beat all the guys you put in front of him ,, he's big enough to slug it out , he's smooth enough to box it out , he's fit enough to go the distance ,, BUT i don't think he has the confidence , sure he's confident on instagram , and twitter ,, but far has i'm concerned his resume does'nt sho it ,, he talks , he talks and he talks , till its got to the stage people think wanker ,, its like he does'nt want to put it on the line against the best ,, who at the moment theres , Ruiz ,, , AJ , Joyce and Usyk ,, surely a fight can be made with at least ONE OF THESE without all the stipulation bollocks , just send his promoter with strict instructions get a mutual date .. I think Jocye will fight him net month , but he will not be offered ,

To me the thing that will ruin Furys legacy is not who he fights but who he fails to fight

[BigDoofus]

It's strange how it works out because Fury must have a very good chance of winning the AJ fight, he certainly says it will be easy pickings, but yet it never comes off.I genuinely don't understand why it doesn't happen.

They're due to fight in 2 months time but one of them won't sign the contract.

[big lennox]

TBF the 1st thing Joshua did after beating Klitschko was to call out Fury (who was weighing 27 stone at the time). He's not seen so keen since he shifted that weight.

Erm, AJ signed to box Fury last year and then Fury pulled out to box Wilder for a third time having just beat him conclusively.

It's strange how it works out because Fury must have a very good chance of winning the AJ fight, he certainly says it will be easy pickings, but yet it never comes off.I genuinely don't understand why it doesn't happen.

The things that impresses me most about Fury, which really makes him so tough to beat ( aside from his skill set) is his phenomenal stamina. I just don't know how a guy that big can retain his fitness so well throughout a hard 12 rounds. I think that's what gives him the edge on everyone ( except for Joyce maybe?).

You know what I AGREE WITH YOU I do actually think that fury as the movement , the skills , the size to beat all the guys you put in front of him ,, he's big enough to slug it out , he's smooth enough to box it out , he's fit enough to go the distance ,, BUT i don't think he has the confidence , sure he's confident on instagram , and twitter ,, but far has i'm concerned his resume does'nt sho it ,, he talks , he talks and he talks , till its got to the stage people think wanker ,, its like he does'nt want to put it on the line against the best ,, who at the moment theres , Ruiz ,, , AJ , Joyce and Usyk ,, surely a fight can be made with at least ONE OF THESE without all the stipulation bollocks , just send his promoter with strict instructions get a mutual date .. I think Jocye will fight him net month , but he will not be offered ,

To me the thing that will ruin Furys legacy is not who he fights but who he fails to fight

That's a perfect summing up.

[maverick23]

It's strange how it works out because Fury must have a very good chance of winning the AJ fight, he certainly says it will be easy pickings, but yet it never comes off.I genuinely don't understand why it doesn't happen.

They're due to fight in 2 months time but one of them won't sign the contract.

And one of them has announced this week that the fight is off and that they’re fighting Manuel Charr.

[Boxerbeetle]

How come the last few years Fury just keeps harping on and on and on about AJ , yet always puts obstacles in the way , i don't know if Fury will beat AJ or vice versa ,, but what i do know is every time he wants a gimmee fight he loves to call out AJ who for all intent purposes must now be sick of accepting , then having obstacles in the way (wilder ) now stupid deadlines , C,mon really whats the big deal about early or mid december except for an excuse ,, these ridiculous deadlines are just that ridiculous , its NEVER going to be easy when both boxers have contractual relationships with other big companys who have a vested interest

TBF the 1st thing Joshua did after beating Klitschko was to call out Fury (who was weighing 27 stone at the time). He's not seen so keen since he shifted that weight.

Erm, AJ signed to box Fury last year and then Fury pulled out to box Wilder for a third time having just beat him conclusively.

It's strange how it works out because Fury must have a very good chance of winning the AJ fight, he certainly says it will be easy pickings, but yet it never comes off.I genuinely don't understand why it doesn't happen.

The things that impresses me most about Fury, which really makes him so tough to beat ( aside from his skill set) is his phenomenal stamina. I just don't know how a guy that big can retain his fitness so well throughout a hard 12 rounds. I think that's what gives him the edge on everyone ( except for Joyce maybe?).

Must be all that uncastrated wild boar meat

[maverick23]

TBF the 1st thing Joshua did after beating Klitschko was to call out Fury (who was weighing 27 stone at the time). He's not seen so keen since he shifted that weight.

Erm, AJ signed to box Fury last year and then Fury pulled out to box Wilder for a third time having just beat him conclusively.

It's strange how it works out because Fury must have a very good chance of winning the AJ fight, he certainly says it will be easy pickings, but yet it never comes off.I genuinely don't understand why it doesn't happen.

The things that impresses me most about Fury, which really makes him so tough to beat ( aside from his skill set) is his phenomenal stamina. I just don't know how a guy that big can retain his fitness so well throughout a hard 12 rounds. I think that's what gives him the edge on everyone ( except for Joyce maybe?).

Must be all that uncastrated wild boar meat

He’s the most relaxed heavyweight I can remember. He also does loads of roadwork which I think helps massively and is probably something not every heavyweight does.

[Pukka Cheese]

I don’t really see the point in Joshua vs Fury in any event. Fury retired, quite rightly. The only fight that makes sense is him v Usyk, and if Usyk won’t do that til next year then he should stay retired. He’s got plenty of money, and way too much to lose.

I don't get this style of negotiations. Fury seems to be in an erratic frame of mind; and Joshua wasn't in a great mental head space after the Uysk rematch either.

Its an interesting thought really.

We all saw AJ have a little mental breakdown then cry at the press conference ~6weeks ago.

Fury looked like he was back on the sniff at Joyce - Parker last week and has been trying to fight anyone and everyone in recent weeks...

Both could probably do with a long holiday then christmas with the fam rather than a the media spotlight that comes with this mega fight.

[Brute]

Seeing Joshua lost his titles to Usyk is there any point in fury fighting him?

[The Gratest]

It was Fury who called out Joshua. So I guess that makes Fury's actions and decisions completely pointless.

[BigDoofus]

It's strange how it works out because Fury must have a very good chance of winning the AJ fight, he certainly says it will be easy pickings, but yet it never comes off.I genuinely don't understand why it doesn't happen.

They're due to fight in 2 months time but one of them won't sign the contract.

And one of them has announced this week that the fight is off and that they’re fighting Manuel Charr.

Your excuses are getting weaker. Your previous one was the TV companies didn't meet until Monday. According to GAD, BT and DAZN had already agreed by then,
Hearn wants this as much as he wanted Pascal-Buatsi and even Joshua's cheerleaders are publicly saying this.

[maverick23]

They're due to fight in 2 months time but one of them won't sign the contract.

And one of them has announced this week that the fight is off and that they’re fighting Manuel Charr.

Your excuses are getting weaker. Your previous one was the TV companies didn't meet until Monday. According to GAD, BT and DAZN had already agreed by then,
Hearn wants this as much as he wanted Pascal-Buatsi and even Joshua's cheerleaders are publicly saying this.

They’re not excuses - they’re facts. Both Eddie and Frank confirmed the TV networks were meeting on Monday. Why would they meet if everything had been agreed by then? What about ESPN? What about the rest of the world where AJ has a contractual commitment to DAZN?

I agree Hearn didn’t want Pascal vs Buatsi on another network. I don’t think that’s the case here.

I listened to Spencer Oliver’s thoughts - he openly admitted he had no idea on any of the contractual stuff. If he doesn’t know that then his opinion is as valid as anyone posting on here.

[big lennox]

They're due to fight in 2 months time but one of them won't sign the contract.

And one of them has announced this week that the fight is off and that they’re fighting Manuel Charr.

Your excuses are getting weaker. Your previous one was the TV companies didn't meet until Monday. According to GAD, BT and DAZN had already agreed by then,
Hearn wants this as much as he wanted Pascal-Buatsi and even Joshua's cheerleaders are publicly saying this.

Out of interest, what are your thoughts on Fury eating non castrated Boar's meet as a cause of him failing a drug test?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Seeing Joshua lost his titles to Usyk is there any point in fury fighting him?

Yes!.. there’s is a point.

Everyone loves paper.

[BigDoofus]

Out of interest, what are your thoughts on Fury eating non castrated Boar's meet as a cause of him failing a drug test?

Similar to those when Joshua was out injured with a back fracture and returned having put on several pounds of lean muscle.

[big lennox]

Out of interest, what are your thoughts on Fury eating non castrated Boar's meet as a cause of him failing a drug test?

Similar to those when Joshua was out injured with a back fracture and returned having put on several pounds of lean muscle.

[quickeyg]

Manuel Charr disses Anthony Ppu*sywhaa - the mask is funny aswell.

[maverick23]

Manuel Charr disses Anthony Ppu*sywhaa - the mask is funny aswell.

That’s really funny. If he fights Fury as was announced earlier this week then they can spend the whole promotion talking about AJ.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Fury had to mention his name didn’t he..

Now Charr thinks he’s entitled to a shot.

I really wouldn’t mind him fighting Dub for the Regular belt, seeing as he didn’t lose it.. that’s it’s.

[big lennox]

Manuel Charr disses Anthony Ppu*sywhaa - the mask is funny aswell.

I love the randomness of Charr. He knows how to promote himself. I saw an interview with John Fury saying Tyson might box Ruiz instead of Joshua. An excellent fight, if true.

[Frostieballs]

I have no idea if Fury actually wants this fight or not. He is in a weird place at the moment.

But the suggestion that AJ is somehow ducking it is absolutely ludicrous - and ignores the facts.

He has said he wants the fight and, unlike Fury, is happy to let his team and his lawyers do the required work without jumping on Insta every two seconds.

Both men are multi million businesses in themselves and the contractual work involved must be huge.

I’m not AJ’s biggest fan, but he has absolutely no form for ducking anybody. He’s already signed to fight Fury once! He jumped straight back in with Usyk after getting his arse handed to him.

If the offer is fair without tricky clauses AJ will take the fight.

[Wee Tommy]

I have no idea if Fury actually wants this fight or not. He is in a weird place at the moment.

But the suggestion that AJ is somehow ducking it is absolutely ludicrous - and ignores the facts.

He has said he wants the fight and, unlike Fury, is happy to let his team and his lawyers do the required work without jumping on Insta every two seconds.

Both men are multi million businesses in themselves and the contractual work involved must be huge.

I’m not AJ’s biggest fan, but he has absolutely no form for ducking anybody. He’s already signed to fight Fury once! He jumped straight back in with Usyk after getting his arse handed to him.

If the offer is fair without tricky clauses AJ will take the fight.

Well said. Joshua’s never ducked a challenge and I for one respected his performance against Ruiz in the immediate rematch.

He’s far from my favourite guy but he’s willing to fight anyone and keep his mouth shut till the fights made.

[mickey1975]

I have no idea if Fury actually wants this fight or not. He is in a weird place at the moment.

But the suggestion that AJ is somehow ducking it is absolutely ludicrous - and ignores the facts.

He has said he wants the fight and, unlike Fury, is happy to let his team and his lawyers do the required work without jumping on Insta every two seconds.

Both men are multi million businesses in themselves and the contractual work involved must be huge.

I’m not AJ’s biggest fan, but he has absolutely no form for ducking anybody. He’s already signed to fight Fury once! He jumped straight back in with Usyk after getting his arse handed to him.

If the offer is fair without tricky clauses AJ will take the fight.

Well said. Joshua’s never ducked a challenge and I for one respected his performance against Ruiz in the immediate rematch.

He’s far from my favourite guy but he’s willing to fight anyone and keep his mouth shut till the fights made.

He released a (terrible) rap video, hardly keeping his mouth shut, is it?

[The Gratest]

I think it's relative silence in comparison to Fury. That lengthy rant that went on for 6 or 7 messages...he seems very agitated.

[maverick23]

I think it's relative silence in comparison to Fury. That lengthy rant that went on for 6 or 7 messages...he seems very agitated.

I do have concerns for Tyson when he genuinely moves away from boxing. He seems to struggle when away or to be away from the spotlight.

[Coco]

In reality boxers don't duck fights, especially when the money is right.

It is the promoters which follow their business path and it is them which turn down fights because the business isn't right.

Calling out fighters saying they are scared is just hype