Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius | FOX PPV - October 15, 2022

Who wins?

Poll ended at 15 Oct 2022, 08:58

Wilder - Decision
0
No votes
Wilder - T/KO
47
68%
DRAW
0
No votes
Helenius - T/KO
20
29%
Helenius - Decision
2
3%
 
Total votes: 69

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Post by brilo33 »

margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 22:42 take away mike tyson's speed and he'd still have atg hand speed, excellent foot work and head movement, and some of the better body punching and combos at hw. not sure how he's relevant to this anyway :lol:
no sorry you take away his power he aint nothing at heavy weight , same as you calling out wilder, mags lets face it power is everything thats why fury is getting so good too he is putting the weight behind the punches now
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Post by margaret thatcher »

take away tyson's power and he still has loads of abilities

plus wtf mate, when have i ever assumed that wilder's power can be taken away :lol:
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Post by gregregegg »

If wilder touches you your out cold…facts!

That’s why in his 13 world title fights he has won 9 by ko, over 103 rounds…

So he is getting a KO ever 11.5 rounds….

Well guess some of those rounds are partial rounds, so Mabey he gets a ko win ever 11 rounds or so…

and that’s with some dogshit opponents sprinkled in.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 22:51 take away tyson's power and he still has loads of abilities

plus wtf mate, when have i ever assumed that wilder's power can be taken away :lol:
what a 5 ft 10 man has loads of abilities' against real heavy weights , do you think canelo would of beat lennox lewis
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i mean 5'11 ruslan chagaev didnt have 1/5 of tyson's ability and he was a top 5 heavy, handily beat big nik valuev too
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margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:02 i mean 5'11 ruslan chagaev didnt have 1/5 of tyson's ability and he was a top 5 heavy, handily beat big nik valuev too
bit harsh the mans doing his dutie
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margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:02 i mean 5'11 ruslan chagaev didnt have 1/5 of tyson's ability and he was a top 5 heavy, handily beat big nik valuev too
there you go if haye never had power who would he of beat
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Post by gregregegg »

brilo33 wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:18
margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:02 i mean 5'11 ruslan chagaev didnt have 1/5 of tyson's ability and he was a top 5 heavy, handily beat big nik valuev too
there you go if haye never had power who would he of beat
You can’t just “not have power” it’s not a yes know question it’s a scale.

If mike Tyson punched like mckinson… and couldn’t hurt anyone at heavyweight then he would have struggled. Could of out pointers low level but it’s very hard to beat a heavyweight without even the perception of risk…

If he punched like joe Parker (pretty medium power guy at heavy) his skills would of got him to world level.

If he punched like mike Tyson…. Well we saw where that got him.
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gregregegg wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:41
brilo33 wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:18
margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:02 i mean 5'11 ruslan chagaev didnt have 1/5 of tyson's ability and he was a top 5 heavy, handily beat big nik valuev too
there you go if haye never had power who would he of beat
You can’t just “not have power” it’s not a yes know question it’s a scale.

If mike Tyson punched like mckinson… and couldn’t hurt anyone at heavyweight then he would have struggled. Could of out pointers low level but it’s very hard to beat a heavyweight without even the perception of risk…

If he punched like joe Parker (pretty medium power guy at heavy) his skills would of got him to world level.

If he punched like mike Tyson…. Well we saw where that got him.
well deepens how big you are parker is 6 ft 4 tough as anything, tyson wouldn't have been nothing with out power even medium power at that height in a division of monsters just jab him away wouldn't care, buster dougauls took him out
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Post by margaret thatcher »

brilo33 wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 00:03
gregregegg wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:41
brilo33 wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:18

there you go if haye never had power who would he of beat
You can’t just “not have power” it’s not a yes know question it’s a scale.

If mike Tyson punched like mckinson… and couldn’t hurt anyone at heavyweight then he would have struggled. Could of out pointers low level but it’s very hard to beat a heavyweight without even the perception of risk…

If he punched like joe Parker (pretty medium power guy at heavy) his skills would of got him to world level.

If he punched like mike Tyson…. Well we saw where that got him.
well deepens how big you are parker is 6 ft 4 tough as anything, tyson wouldn't have been nothing with out power even medium power at that height in a division of monsters just jab him away wouldn't care, buster dougauls took him out
joe parker ......since he's so tough do you think he would've neutralized the power and beaten tyson?
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margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 00:12
brilo33 wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 00:03
gregregegg wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:41

You can’t just “not have power” it’s not a yes know question it’s a scale.

If mike Tyson punched like mckinson… and couldn’t hurt anyone at heavyweight then he would have struggled. Could of out pointers low level but it’s very hard to beat a heavyweight without even the perception of risk…

If he punched like joe Parker (pretty medium power guy at heavy) his skills would of got him to world level.

If he punched like mike Tyson…. Well we saw where that got him.
well deepens how big you are parker is 6 ft 4 tough as anything, tyson wouldn't have been nothing with out power even medium power at that height in a division of monsters just jab him away wouldn't care, buster dougauls took him out
joe parker ......since he's so tough do you think he would've neutralized the power and beaten tyson?
well yea i do if mike never had his power he would of been similar to andy ruiz in starchier iam not saying ruiz is as good as tyson,
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brilo33 wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 14:02
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 00:12
brilo33 wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 00:03

well deepens how big you are parker is 6 ft 4 tough as anything, tyson wouldn't have been nothing with out power even medium power at that height in a division of monsters just jab him away wouldn't care, buster dougauls took him out
joe parker ......since he's so tough do you think he would've neutralized the power and beaten tyson?
well yea i do if mike never had his power he would of been similar to andy ruiz in starchier iam not saying ruiz is as good as tyson,
:oo
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I would loved to be a fly on the wall when it was suggested this fight should be a ppv :lol:
They really are taking the piss here.
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KiwiRider wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 22:58 I would loved to be a fly on the wall when it was suggested this fight should be a ppv :lol:
They really are taking the piss here.
Maybe $29.99 USD, but 75?!? :witzend:
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oogiebe wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 23:28
KiwiRider wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 22:58 I would loved to be a fly on the wall when it was suggested this fight should be a ppv :lol:
They really are taking the piss here.
Maybe $29.99 USD, but 75?!? :witzend:
I know Oogs!
You guys get royally shafted on these.
It is $18 USD for me to watch and t in HD. Maybe a dollar either side as our dollar is in freefall with the £ at the moment.
But still. A two, most say 3 loser in a row against a known third tier fighter with no titles on the line.
It's pathetic and should be free to air.
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KiwiRider wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 23:52
oogiebe wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 23:28
KiwiRider wrote: 01 Oct 2022, 22:58 I would loved to be a fly on the wall when it was suggested this fight should be a ppv :lol:
They really are taking the piss here.
Maybe $29.99 USD, but 75?!? :witzend:
I know Oogs!
You guys get royally shafted on these.
It is $18 USD for me to watch and t in HD. Maybe a dollar either side as our dollar is in freefall with the £ at the moment.
But still. A two, most say 3 loser in a row against a known third tier fighter with no titles on the line.
It's pathetic and should be free to air.
This is part of why boxing has fell off the table in the US.
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gregregegg wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:41
brilo33 wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:18
margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:02 i mean 5'11 ruslan chagaev didnt have 1/5 of tyson's ability and he was a top 5 heavy, handily beat big nik valuev too
there you go if haye never had power who would he of beat
You can’t just “not have power” it’s not a yes know question it’s a scale.

If mike Tyson punched like mckinson… and couldn’t hurt anyone at heavyweight then he would have struggled. Could of out pointers low level but it’s very hard to beat a heavyweight without even the perception of risk…

If he punched like joe Parker (pretty medium power guy at heavy) his skills would of got him to world level.

If he punched like mike Tyson…. Well we saw where that got him.
Y'all gotta stop it with this could of / would of sh*t. It's could've, would've.
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gregregegg wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:41
brilo33 wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:18
margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Sep 2022, 23:02 i mean 5'11 ruslan chagaev didnt have 1/5 of tyson's ability and he was a top 5 heavy, handily beat big nik valuev too
there you go if haye never had power who would he of beat
You can’t just “not have power” it’s not a yes know question it’s a scale.

If mike Tyson punched like mckinson… and couldn’t hurt anyone at heavyweight then he would have struggled. Could of out pointers low level but it’s very hard to beat a heavyweight without even the perception of risk…

If he punched like joe Parker (pretty medium power guy at heavy) his skills would of got him to world level.

If he punched like mike Tyson…. Well we saw where that got him.

Incredibly fast with both hands.

No one like him since.
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Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

Wilder should beat helenius fairly easily. Hes straight up and pulls syraight back, tailor made for wilder

Id guess wilder v ruiz for some stripped wbc belt next year
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just watched the trailer for this and yes, it is 74.95 way too much money for a card that has only two matches i want to see Wilder\Helenius and Sanchez\Negron. also hypothetical match making if Frank Sanchez fought Wilder Frank would out box him almost every round before getting caught with a last minute straight right for the Wilder ko
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mikebourkefan wrote: 04 Oct 2022, 02:27 just watched the trailer for this and yes, it is 74.95 way too much money for a card that has only two matches i want to see Wilder\Helenius and Sanchez\Negron. also hypothetical match making if Frank Sanchez fought Wilder Frank would out box him almost every round before getting caught with a last minute straight right for the Wilder ko
There are questions about Sanchez. In particular, if he can take a punch well, or if he can effectively sharpen his methodical style. I won't be surprised, if he manages to win Wilder.
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Wilder has retirement plans set..

Wants to fight 9 more times.. :oo
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Fight week!! :box:

It’s costing US fans $75 and UK fans $15..
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Oct 2022, 15:26 Fight week!! :box:

It’s costing US fans $75 and UK fans $15..
This American ain't paying shit. :OhYes:
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Some people thought Kambosos vs Haney was boring but I enjoyed it which is a good thing because that is what I'll be watching next week. Until the next one. :salut:
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