More disappointing Career
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More disappointing Career
Just trying to find who has had the most disappointing career.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: More disappointing Career
Their careers are not nearly over yet.
Jermell has achieved more so far..
Jermell has achieved more so far..
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margaret thatcher
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Re: More disappointing Career
surely you mean jermall?
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Re: More disappointing Career
You right is should have been Mall Charlo
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gregregegg
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Re: More disappointing Career
Hard to say they have had disapointing carrers.
Jermell is currently undisputed. he probably has another 3 good years left.
Plant was a mediocour amature, with zero hype and managed to get a world title and be involved in a masssive undisputed clash for millions... Noone knew who he was till the Jose Uzcategui upset. Now he has a name and probably a good 5 years to go.
Both could easily be seen as overachievers.
Jermell is currently undisputed. he probably has another 3 good years left.
Plant was a mediocour amature, with zero hype and managed to get a world title and be involved in a masssive undisputed clash for millions... Noone knew who he was till the Jose Uzcategui upset. Now he has a name and probably a good 5 years to go.
Both could easily be seen as overachievers.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: More disappointing Career
plant was national golden gloves champ, he wasnt a mediocre amateur
and op meant jermall btw
i'd have to say jermall, as he's imo better of the two, yet it's plant who has landed the big fight. plant winning a wbc title , getting a few defenses, and a big fight vs canelo, now straight back on a ppv.....i think that's very good for his level and boring style
mall meanwhile has been stagnating for years, now 32 and never gotten a big fight. last fight vs a guy banged out by mung and adames
and op meant jermall btw
i'd have to say jermall, as he's imo better of the two, yet it's plant who has landed the big fight. plant winning a wbc title , getting a few defenses, and a big fight vs canelo, now straight back on a ppv.....i think that's very good for his level and boring style
mall meanwhile has been stagnating for years, now 32 and never gotten a big fight. last fight vs a guy banged out by mung and adames
Re: More disappointing Career
If you mean Jermall Charlo. I'd put Plant's accomplishments over his.
Jermell Charlo however has surpassed Caleb Plant.
Jermell Charlo however has surpassed Caleb Plant.
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gregregegg
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Re: More disappointing Career
Mediocre amateur is kinda a relative term... golden gloves is great, not taking away from it. but for a future world champ, id say failing to make the Olympic team is kinda mediocre...margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Oct 2022, 20:13 plant was national golden gloves champ, he wasnt a mediocre amateur
and op meant jermall btw
i'd have to say jermall, as he's imo better of the two, yet it's plant who has landed the big fight. plant winning a wbc title , getting a few defenses, and a big fight vs canelo, now straight back on a ppv.....i think that's very good for his level and boring style
mall meanwhile has been stagnating for years, now 32 and never gotten a big fight. last fight vs a guy banged out by mung and adames
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margaret thatcher
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Re: More disappointing Career
bivol, fury, canelo, benavidez, charlos, crawford, inoue, tank, haney ,fulton, briedis, kambo, chocolatito, estrada, etc etc werent olympians
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gregregegg
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Re: More disappointing Career
Not going to blame the poster on this one.... Responsibility for these kinda mix ups lie solely on some deadshit parenting... Why are boxing parents so fornicating whack. jermall and jermell... Garry A russle x5ish? george formans kids names are the pisstake...
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gregregegg
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Re: More disappointing Career
many of them had mediocre or even poor amature carrers.... (once again relitive for elite pros)margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Oct 2022, 21:09 bivol, fury, canelo, benavidez, charlos, crawford, inoue, tank, haney ,fulton, briedis, kambo, chocolatito, estrada, etc etc werent olympians
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margaret thatcher
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Re: More disappointing Career
disagree, to me a mediocre amateur career is more like someone who couldnt even win a national title. if so many top fighters werent olympians, that shouldnt be the standard
looking at smw specifically, joe c, kessler, abraham. froch, bute, eubank, benn, toney etc......none were olympians either
not everyone got the super lax qualification standards that the aussies enjoyed for years. beat a samoan and a tongan and you're in !
looking at smw specifically, joe c, kessler, abraham. froch, bute, eubank, benn, toney etc......none were olympians either
not everyone got the super lax qualification standards that the aussies enjoyed for years. beat a samoan and a tongan and you're in !
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gregregegg
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Re: More disappointing Career
I mean, its just interpritation of how I use the term mediocre, which is probably my bad.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Oct 2022, 21:20 disagree, to me a mediocre amateur career is more like someone who couldnt even win a national title. if so many top fighters werent olympians, that shouldnt be the standard
looking at smw specifically, joe c, kessler, froch, eubank, benn, toney etc......none were olympians either
What i ment was, His amature carrer wasnt excelent, and he wasnt some blue chip prospect expected to become a world champ... so becoming a world champ is an overachivment in my eyes.
Re: More disappointing Career
I think Charlo has had the better promotion backing, and therefore had more opportunities to turn down.
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Re: More disappointing Career
Jermell Charlo has not had a disappointing career; he shouldn't be in this conversation.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: More disappointing Career
dudes, he said he meant jermall
id say jermall's career has certainly disappointed the last few years, compared to what it looked like he may accomplish at one point
id say jermall's career has certainly disappointed the last few years, compared to what it looked like he may accomplish at one point
Re: More disappointing Career
The smaller Charlo clearly achieved more, the bigger one has a more disappointing career indeed.
Actually, Plant's career isn't that bad. The division is far from the great state now and Plant tried to challenge the best guy there. Now it's interesting to see him against Benavidez.
Actually, Plant's career isn't that bad. The division is far from the great state now and Plant tried to challenge the best guy there. Now it's interesting to see him against Benavidez.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: More disappointing Career
Jermall Charlo achieved more.
Caleb Plant probably earned more.
Both men are underachievers, but most boxers would prefer to earn more money than accolades.
So Plant did better out of the two, at this point in time.
But ifJermall gets his shot at Canelo, then he’ll overtake Plant.
Caleb Plant probably earned more.
Both men are underachievers, but most boxers would prefer to earn more money than accolades.
So Plant did better out of the two, at this point in time.
But ifJermall gets his shot at Canelo, then he’ll overtake Plant.