BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Chisora / Dubois vs. Lerena

[Ruthless-RKO]

Dubois remains out. Very suspicious looking fight that which is hard to take any positives from.

Sorry, RKO, can't vote on Fury v Chisora as I have zero intention of ever watching it. I've seen 1 and 2, don't need to watch 3.

You dont need to watch it to vote on it.

Chisora got stopped.

It was very one-sided, he didn't win a round. Where do you want to put Chisora.

That's all.

[Kronkpride]

Fury clearly #1 by miles.

Dubois....hell no....he lost to me in the 1st round....he is flopping around against a midget who barely puts anything on him and then decides to just put nothing else on him from there. That match stunk to high hell in just about every way. Dubois needed tons of help to salvage being blown out by a midget who all appearances says is there to lose. What a disgrace that was.

Chisora to #15. I think he can still boat race some guys in this range and has done enough to stay in. Plus he is likely to defend his rank against somebody else good in the not so distant future. I don't want to totally eject him for some other stooge who won't or hasn't faced other top guys.

[gilgamesh]

I don't think Chisora has ever been a Top 10 Heavyweight, and right now I wouldn't have him Top 15. Maybe on his best day he was Top 15 for a brief time.

Dubois isn't Top 15.

[tiny_acres]

I don't think Chisora has ever been a Top 10 Heavyweight, and right now I wouldn't have him Top 15. Maybe on his best day he was Top 15 for a brief time.

Dubois isn't Top 15.

I've been saying this for sometime

[margaret thatcher]

My question was aimed at whoever just voted him to remain #9.
Personally I have said he should of been out of the top 15 for the last 4 or 5 fights in his career.
He was tough and a fun watch but not a contender in long while

Ah. It was Josh. He explained above.

Thanks just read it though I do not agree with him.
I just think that even though you put in good efforts you have to win some.

he beat pulev a few months ago, tbh not many guys have recent wins better than that, and if they do theyre prob already above him

it's thin picking below top 15, if you bring in someone new theyre prob gonna be someone who is largely unproven or failed even when stepping to b level

i would have confidently voted in dubs with a good win, but going down 3x in a round and looking like a bit of a mental weirdo softy dont help his case here

[Ruthless-RKO]

The guys outside the top 15 are just not doing enough.

[margaret thatcher]

that's the thing, it's easy to just knock chisora and i understand ppl being tired of him, but you gotta also compare to the unranked guys. they are hardly doing anything. which is why a lot of these top 15ers can hang onto a spot

ddd here had a good chance to make a clear entry, then almost gets ko'd in 1 round

[Ruthless-RKO]

that's the thing, it's easy to just knock chisora, but you gotta also compare to the unranked guys. they are hardly doing anything

ddd here had a good chance to make a clear entry, then almost gets ko'd in 1 round

That’s his downfall. Mak is out soon again.

A few others outside the top 15 as well. Efe and Rivas, Stephen Shaw hasn’t done enough yet.

[morm]

both out

[CMCanavessi]

Both out. We should then vote some fighter to enter the top 15, or wait for a future fight.

[Ruthless-RKO]

both out

Both out. We should then vote some fighter to enter the top 15, or wait for a future fight.

Thanks. Make sure you polled because I’ll go off that.

[CMCanavessi]

both out

Both out. We should then vote some fighter to enter the top 15, or wait for a future fight.

Thanks. Make sure you polled because I’ll go off that.

I did. Also looking at the ranking and going by logic, if we vote Chisora out then we should drop Pulev also.

[Ruthless-RKO]

both out

Both out. We should then vote some fighter to enter the top 15, or wait for a future fight.

Thanks. Make sure you polled because I’ll go off that.

I did. Also looking at the ranking and going by logic, if we vote Chisora out then we should drop Pulev also.

Pulev did get dropped when he lost the close decision to Chisora.

He was #9 before that I think and Chisora was not in the top 10.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Keep them coming.

As it stands, Dubois is NOT entering and Chisora is between 14 and 15 place.

I take it majority are happy with Fury staying at #1.

I think there was a couple who wanted to drop him.

[DrDuke]

Keep them coming.

As it stands, Dubois is NOT entering and Chisora is between 14 and 15 place.

I take it majority are happy with Fury staying at #1.

I think there was a couple who wanted to drop him.

Some of his hardcore haters probably.

[Ruthless-RKO]

At this rate, they're both heading out.

I think people are sick of seeing Del in the rankings with his record.

I am yet to vote tbh.

I'm gonna vote Dub remain out.

I'm still thinking on Chisora.

[CMCanavessi]

Thanks. Make sure you polled because I’ll go off that.

I did. Also looking at the ranking and going by logic, if we vote Chisora out then we should drop Pulev also.

Pulev did get dropped when he lost the close decision to Chisora.

He was #9 before that I think and Chisora was not in the top 10.

I meant out of the ranking. Pulev is #14 currently.

[Ruthless-RKO]

As is stands, both Chisora and Dubois are out.

We'd have a vacant spot to fill.

it's a shame. Recent months, we've had guys like Mak, Dubois, Hrgovic had a chance to enter..

They all messed up.. But we voted Hrgovic in.

[joshj909]

As is stands, both Chisora and Dubois are out.

We'd have a vacant spot to fill.

it's a shame. Recent months, we've had guys like Mak, Dubois, Hrgovic had a chance to enter..

They all messed up.. But we voted Hrgovic in.

CMCanavessi has a very valid point above. Chisora just beat Pulev a few months ago but people are voting him 2+ places lower. Recency bias could be having a negative impact on these rankings.

[Ruthless-RKO]

As is stands, both Chisora and Dubois are out.

We'd have a vacant spot to fill.

it's a shame. Recent months, we've had guys like Mak, Dubois, Hrgovic had a chance to enter..

They all messed up.. But we voted Hrgovic in.

CMCanavessi has a very valid point above. Chisora just beat Pulev a few months ago but people are voting him 2+ places lower. Recency bias could be having a negative impact on these rankings.

Yeh it's a good point. Pulev was nearly dropped after that lost as well. I think what saved him, was that it was a close fight. Some had Pulev winning, but settled that Chisora FINALLY got the 'close decision win'. The win shot Chisora into the top 10, that was the majority, and now the majority are voting him out, or near out. It's strange.

Pulev was top 10 when he fought Chisora (i'm sure).

[Ruthless-RKO]

When I did the poll, I wasn't even going to include the option to drop Chizzy out. But that might have caused a backlash looking at it now.

[CMCanavessi]

As is stands, both Chisora and Dubois are out.

We'd have a vacant spot to fill.

it's a shame. Recent months, we've had guys like Mak, Dubois, Hrgovic had a chance to enter..

They all messed up.. But we voted Hrgovic in.

In hindsight, Mak was the most deserving to get into the top 15 out of those 3. Hrgovic barely made it vs Zhang (i had him losing), and Dubois was crap. Mak didn't KO Takam, but he dominated the whole fight and dropped him twice. It was the only one out of the 3 that got a solid win (and had KOed Wach before that, something nobody ever achieved).

He's fighting in 10 days again so that may help him.

[joshj909]

Arguably the entire 9-15 could be voted on because I have no doubts that people would make significant changes now.

[Ruthless-RKO]

As is stands, both Chisora and Dubois are out.

We'd have a vacant spot to fill.

it's a shame. Recent months, we've had guys like Mak, Dubois, Hrgovic had a chance to enter..

They all messed up.. But we voted Hrgovic in.

In hindsight, Mak was the most deserving to get into the top 15 out of those 3. Hrgovic barely made it vs Zhang (i had him losing), and Dubois was crap. Mak didn't KO Takam, but he dominated the whole fight and dropped him twice. It was the only one out of the 3 that got a solid win (and had KOed Wach before that, something nobody ever achieved).

He's fighting in 10 days again so that may help him.

I think there was unnecessary expectations on the Mak-Takam fight.

Most expected him to blow Takam away and because he didn't, he didn't enter.

But it was a dominate win.

[CMCanavessi]

Yup, I agree.