Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

Who wins?

Poll ended at 18 May 2024, 20:15

Fury - Decision
66
27%
Fury - T/KO
36
15%
DRAW
16
7%
Usyk - T/KO
23
10%
Usyk - Decision
100
41%
 
Total votes: 241

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1047945 wrote: 09 Dec 2022, 15:51
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Dec 2022, 15:32
tony1234 wrote: 09 Dec 2022, 15:31 In this week's Wrestling Observer it states that Fury is keen to return to WWE for a tag match with father John against Logan and Jake Paul. Can't wait to see that
Farkin’ ell.
great,we'll get to see big johns tits wobbling again :lol:
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Dec 2022, 17:44
DrDuke wrote: 09 Dec 2022, 17:06
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Dec 2022, 07:41 Usyk captioned the image: “Пузіко як справи.”

The automatic translation on Instagram says this means: “Belly button, what’s up?”

However, there is dispute online with others claiming he’s actually just saying ‘tummy’ or ‘belly’ to poke fun at Fury’s physique.
Maybe it's some kind of a crooked Ukrainian dialect. Usyk has always been speaking Russian in public and he started to speak Ukrainian only recently for some unknown reason. :maybe: Gotta learn it a bit better.
What you think he could have meant?
Something, like "What's up, fat guy?".
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After getting away with the Chisora fight, isn’t Fury likely to makes lots of verbal overtures about Usyk, while fighting tomato cans for millions?
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polecateddy wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 14:46 After getting away with the Chisora fight, isn’t Fury likely to makes lots of verbal overtures about Usyk, while fighting tomato cans for millions?
Almost everyone on here is in agreement with you. There is no way someone as cowardly as Tyson would box Usyk.
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mickey1975 wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 14:59
polecateddy wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 14:46 After getting away with the Chisora fight, isn’t Fury likely to makes lots of verbal overtures about Usyk, while fighting tomato cans for millions?
Almost everyone on here is in agreement with you. There is no way someone as cowardly as Tyson would box Usyk.
So you’re saying he is fighting the Ukrainian? I don’t think he’s a coward obviously, I just think he’s unlikely to take this fight as there’s a more than reasonable chance he’d be out skilled.
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polecateddy wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 15:28
mickey1975 wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 14:59
polecateddy wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 14:46 After getting away with the Chisora fight, isn’t Fury likely to makes lots of verbal overtures about Usyk, while fighting tomato cans for millions?
Almost everyone on here is in agreement with you. There is no way someone as cowardly as Tyson would box Usyk.
So you’re saying he is fighting the Ukrainian? I don’t think he’s a coward obviously, I just think he’s unlikely to take this fight as there’s a more than reasonable chance he’d be out skilled.
No, he’s just stringing Top Rank, Queensbury, Saudi Arabia and Team Usyk along. They only had to read this thread to know it’s impossible to make the fight.
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mickey1975 wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 15:31
polecateddy wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 15:28
mickey1975 wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 14:59
Almost everyone on here is in agreement with you. There is no way someone as cowardly as Tyson would box Usyk.
So you’re saying he is fighting the Ukrainian? I don’t think he’s a coward obviously, I just think he’s unlikely to take this fight as there’s a more than reasonable chance he’d be out skilled.
No, he’s just stringing Top Rank, Queensbury, Saudi Arabia and Team Usyk along. They only had to read this thread to know it’s impossible to make the fight.
Right. Isn’t he just off stringing Joshua along? Kind of got form there!
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Mick Who announced that Fury needs surgery ,whivch in effect postpones the fight ,which inn effect means Usyk will be forced to fight his mandotory . When did he get this mysterious injury before or during the Chisora ci
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coneye wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 15:48 Mick Who announced that Fury needs surgery ,whivch in effect postpones the fight ,which inn effect means Usyk will be forced to fight his mandotory . When did he get this mysterious injury before or during the Chisora ci
rcus
He mentioned it was a bit sore. His brother said it shouldn’t affect the fight. He has had an elbow injury for a while, apparently. I’d imagine anyone would get sore punching Del for ten rounds. He has spoken about Usyk next several times since.
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polecateddy wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 15:47
mickey1975 wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 15:31
polecateddy wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 15:28

So you’re saying he is fighting the Ukrainian? I don’t think he’s a coward obviously, I just think he’s unlikely to take this fight as there’s a more than reasonable chance he’d be out skilled.
No, he’s just stringing Top Rank, Queensbury, Saudi Arabia and Team Usyk along. They only had to read this thread to know it’s impossible to make the fight.
Right. Isn’t he just off stringing Joshua along? Kind of got form there!
Almost everyone away from here believes AJ didn’t want the fight but we really are going over old ground there. Everything is sounding positive for Usyk next.
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You best not start looking at any other forms of boxing social media as they've been filled with people scathingly critical of Fury with regards to the Joshua fight 'offer'. You wouldn't get a moments sleep putting out all those fires.
Best just stick to Boxrec.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Dec 2022, 07:41 Oleksandr Usyk posts selfie with Tyson Fury and captions it with funny Ukrainian insult which may have been lost in translation

Oleksandr Usyk has now posted the selfie he took with Tyson Fury during their face-off last weekend.

The Ukrainian was ringside for the bout and so got a close-up view of the action.

During his post-fight interview, Fury called out Usyk, prompting him to step onto the ring apron as the pair faced off over the ropes.

The Brit hurled insults at his rival who remained unmoved before Joe Joyce also crashed the confrontation.

At the end of it all, Usyk was seen taking a selfie with his fellow heavyweights.

And he has now posted the picture he took with Fury.

It follows a pattern from when he previously did the same before beating Anthony Joshua.

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Usyk captioned the image: “Пузіко як справи.”

The automatic translation on Instagram says this means: “Belly button, what’s up?”

However, there is dispute online with others claiming he’s actually just saying ‘tummy’ or ‘belly’ to poke fun at Fury’s physique.

It appears the actual meaning may have been lost in translation.

On Thursday, Usyk’s manager told talkSPORT the fight is ‘almost done’.

“We’ve been in negotiations even before the [Chisora] fight, that’s why we showed up to the fight,” Klimas explained.

“So, I’ve been speaking with Queensbury promotions before and we spoke to Top Rank [on Thursday] morning on a conference call.

“All of us got together and we are almost done, there is not much left to talk.

“Two heavyweights, the best in the sport today, undisputed heavyweight championship bout, that is what the fans need.”

In Russian puzik means little belly, pouza means big belly. Don't know what the actual sentence means, will ask my missus when she wakes up in the morning.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Dec 2022, 07:41 Oleksandr Usyk posts selfie with Tyson Fury and captions it with funny Ukrainian insult which may have been lost in translation

Oleksandr Usyk has now posted the selfie he took with Tyson Fury during their face-off last weekend.

The Ukrainian was ringside for the bout and so got a close-up view of the action.

During his post-fight interview, Fury called out Usyk, prompting him to step onto the ring apron as the pair faced off over the ropes.

The Brit hurled insults at his rival who remained unmoved before Joe Joyce also crashed the confrontation.

At the end of it all, Usyk was seen taking a selfie with his fellow heavyweights.

And he has now posted the picture he took with Fury.

It follows a pattern from when he previously did the same before beating Anthony Joshua.

Image

Usyk captioned the image: “Пузіко як справи.”

The automatic translation on Instagram says this means: “Belly button, what’s up?”

However, there is dispute online with others claiming he’s actually just saying ‘tummy’ or ‘belly’ to poke fun at Fury’s physique.

It appears the actual meaning may have been lost in translation.

On Thursday, Usyk’s manager told talkSPORT the fight is ‘almost done’.

“We’ve been in negotiations even before the [Chisora] fight, that’s why we showed up to the fight,” Klimas explained.

“So, I’ve been speaking with Queensbury promotions before and we spoke to Top Rank [on Thursday] morning on a conference call.

“All of us got together and we are almost done, there is not much left to talk.

“Two heavyweights, the best in the sport today, undisputed heavyweight championship bout, that is what the fans need.”
So he Usyk takes these photos of his next opponents like this? It's a part of his process?

It's like something from a serial killer movie. Or that film 'Creep'. Scary sh1t.
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WBA Calls For Oleksandr Usyk-Daniel Dubois Heavyweight Title Consolidation Clash

The WBA title dilemma in the heavyweight division was finally addressed—and in a big way.

A significant step was made towards eliminating all secondary WBA titles, as the sanctioning body ordered a consolidation clash between Oleksandr Usyk and Daniel Dubois. The call came during the ratings and championships portion of the WBA Centennial Convention on Monday at Caribe Royale Resort in Orlando, Florida.

Usyk holds the WBA ‘Super’ title along with the IBF/WBO belts, while Dubois is the WBA ‘Regular’ heavyweight titlist.

The timing was curious as Usyk is already forced to choose between two other fights, including an undisputed showdown with lineal/WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury (33-0-1, 24 KOs). The reigning WBA ‘Super’/IBF/WBO heavyweight titlist was already ordered to next face IBF mandatory Filip Hrgovic. The IBF called for a 30-day negotiation period beginning November 12, though Hrgovic—through co-promoters Matchroom Boxing and Wasserman Boxing—requested an immediate purse bid hearing.

Monday’s ruling was justified in that the WBA should be next in the rotation of mandatories challenging for the unified crown. The last WBA ‘Super’ mandatory title defense came in September 2018, when then-unbeaten Anthony Joshua scored a knockout win over Alexander Povetkin.

Joshua has since lost and regained the titles in a two-fight series with Andy Ruiz, before once again losing the belts following a twelve-round defeat to Usyk last September in North London. Ukraine’s Usyk (20-0, 13 KOs) retained his unified titles in a repeat win over Joshua on August 20 in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

Dubois (19-1, 18 KOs) claimed the WBA ‘Regular’ heavyweight title in a fourth-round knockout of previously unbeaten Trevor Bryan on June 11 in Miami, Florida. His reign was nearly short-lived, as the Londoner survived a horrific opening round versus Kevin Lerena where he was down three times to rally and score a controversial third-round stoppage on December 3 in North London.

The win over Lerena came as the chief support to Fury’s one-sided tenth-round stoppage win over Derek Chisora in a pointless trilogy clash. Usyk was ringside for the occasion, as was interim WBO titlist Joe Joyce who knocked out Dubois in the tenth round of their November 2020 meeting of unbeaten British heavyweights.

Hall of Fame promoter allegedly has Fury, Dubois and Joyce, all through his Queensberry Promotions outfit Francis Warren, Frank’s son, represented Queensberry during the WBO convention in late October where he lobbied for Joyce to get next in the heavyweight rotation should Usyk not next face Fury. It was dismissed by the Puerto Rico-headquartered sanctioning body who acknowledged that the IBF was up next and that Usky was the WBO mandatory when he faced Joshua.

The call for Usyk-Dubois, however, speaks more to the WBA’s renewed commitment to eliminating all secondary titles from existence. The title reduction campaign began last summer, with just six divisions still claiming multiple WBA titleholders—heavyweight, super middleweight, middleweight, welterweight, lightweight and strawweight.

While all signs point to Fury-Usyk becoming a real possibility in 2023, it remains to be seen how many titles will be at stake. The WBA ordered a featherweight title consolidation clash between Leo Santa Cruz and Leigh Wood, reaching the point where the sanctioning body threatened to strip both fighters if they continued to avoid each other. Santa Cruz ultimately vacated on Monday, leaving Wood as the sole WBA featherweight titlist.

The sanctioning body could take the same strong arm approach, where refusal by either Usyk or Dubois to commit could result in either—or both—being stripped and their version of the title removed from existence.
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I think based on the rotation; WBA is before IBF.

Dub is with Frank, he won't let this get in the way of Fury-Usyk.
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polecateddy wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 15:47
Right. Isn’t he just off stringing Joshua along? Kind of got form there!
When did Joshua start camp for the fight 10 days ago and who was his trainer?
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BigDoofus wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 06:55
polecateddy wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 15:47
Right. Isn’t he just off stringing Joshua along? Kind of got form there!
When did Joshua start camp for the fight 10 days ago and who was his trainer?
He didn’t have a fight signed so didn’t start camp. 👍
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maverick23 wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 08:02
BigDoofus wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 06:55
polecateddy wrote: 10 Dec 2022, 15:47
Right. Isn’t he just off stringing Joshua along? Kind of got form there!
When did Joshua start camp for the fight 10 days ago and who was his trainer?
He didn’t have a fight signed so didn’t start camp. 👍
If he had found a pen who was he going to start camp with?
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Doofus, Fury stated back in August he was coming out of retirement to fight Chisora. This is actually what happened, these are the facts. Why does your obsession with Anthony Joshua allow you to ignore these facts?
It's beyond boring now, every Fury/Joshua/Usyk thread getting the same repetitive accusation.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/t ... ore-target
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BigDoofus wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 08:15
maverick23 wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 08:02
BigDoofus wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 06:55

When did Joshua start camp for the fight 10 days ago and who was his trainer?
He didn’t have a fight signed so didn’t start camp. 👍
If he had found a pen who was he going to start camp with?
Not sure. Possibly the guys he worked with for Usyk 2. Not getting the deal done bought him more time to find a trainer for the next stage of his career. 👍
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The Gratest wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 08:23 Doofus, Fury stated back in August he was coming out of retirement to fight Chisora. This is actually what happened, these are the facts. Why does your obsession with Anthony Joshua allow you to ignore these facts?
It's beyond boring now, every Fury/Joshua/Usyk thread getting the same repetitive accusation.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/t ... ore-target
Joshua was sent a contract in September, said he would sign it and didn't. FACTS.

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BigDoofus wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 08:57
The Gratest wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 08:23 Doofus, Fury stated back in August he was coming out of retirement to fight Chisora. This is actually what happened, these are the facts. Why does your obsession with Anthony Joshua allow you to ignore these facts?
It's beyond boring now, every Fury/Joshua/Usyk thread getting the same repetitive accusation.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/t ... ore-target
Joshua was sent a contract in September, said he would sign it and didn't. FACTS.

Also said it’s with his legal team and that’s why you hire lawyers. Should he have just said screw it, and signed the first thing that comes over?
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maverick23 wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 09:03 Also said it’s with his legal team and that’s why you hire lawyers. Should he have just said screw it, and signed the first thing that comes over?
Perhaps if he wanted to fight he could have instructed the legal team or his management to return calls from the promoter.
It's crystal clear he wasn't ready for Fury and now he isn't ready to face guys who Fury has beaten.
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Didn't Joshua sign to box Fury previously, but Fury then pulled out to box Wilder again for the third time.

But once Joshua had lost twice to Usyk, Fury obviously felt now would be a good time to take on Joshua, get him whilst his vulnerable.

Anyway, the fight didn't happen and, instead, Fury gave himself a guaranteed victory against an opponent he had already twice defeated.

Its also worth bearing in mind that Jodhua has never failed a drugs test.
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