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Ana Maribel
- Heavyweight

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Hi boxrec team,
This profile Cristina Hernandez
Her last fought ln 122 lbs, Super Bantamweigh
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/729669
Should boxrec change her rating not on flyweigh
Thanks
This profile Cristina Hernandez
Her last fought ln 122 lbs, Super Bantamweigh
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/729669
Should boxrec change her rating not on flyweigh
Thanks
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Ana Maribel
- Heavyweight

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Hi boxrec team,
This profile Shomara Alanis
Her last fought ln 130 lbs, Super Featherweigh
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1126905
Should boxrec change her weigh class
Thanks
This profile Shomara Alanis
Her last fought ln 130 lbs, Super Featherweigh
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1126905
Should boxrec change her weigh class
Thanks
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Ana Maribel
- Heavyweight

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Hi boxrec team,
This profile Ana Miramon villalba
Her last fought ln 112 lbs, Fly weigh
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1111669
Should boxrec change her weigh class
Thanks
This profile Ana Miramon villalba
Her last fought ln 112 lbs, Fly weigh
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1111669
Should boxrec change her weigh class
Thanks
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Ana Maribel
- Heavyweight

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Hi boxrec team,
This profile Silvia Silva Guillen
Her last fought ln 122 lbs, Super Bantamweigh
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1111668
Should boxrec change her weigh class
Thanks
This profile Silvia Silva Guillen
Her last fought ln 122 lbs, Super Bantamweigh
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1111668
Should boxrec change her weigh class
Thanks
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Ana Maribel
- Heavyweight

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Hi boxrec team,
This profile Violeta Balboa Alvarez
Her last fight in flyweigh
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1067555
Should boxrec change her weigh class
Thanks
This profile Violeta Balboa Alvarez
Her last fight in flyweigh
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/1067555
Should boxrec change her weigh class
Thanks
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computerrank
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@Ana Maribel,
stop posting your weight division requests here in this thread, please. This thread is dedicated to discussion about the BoxRec ratings only.
The BoxRec editors assign a boxer to a weight division due to their last fights - or due to the change request of the boxer or his manager, if they want to compete in an other weight division in future.
Please post your request as a TOPIC in the forum Record Queries & Updates:
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stop posting your weight division requests here in this thread, please. This thread is dedicated to discussion about the BoxRec ratings only.
The BoxRec editors assign a boxer to a weight division due to their last fights - or due to the change request of the boxer or his manager, if they want to compete in an other weight division in future.
Please post your request as a TOPIC in the forum Record Queries & Updates:
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jujigatame
- Heavyweight

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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
Are we never getting the numerical ratings back? It's seeming less and less likely as time goes on.
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computerrank
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After a while, I think, it is a good solution to show the rankings only.jujigatame wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023, 20:32 Are we never getting the numerical ratings back? It's seeming less and less likely as time goes on.
Always when I had to adapt the ratings algorithm, the pure numbers often might have changed a lot technically, but often not really important for the ranking. In spite of that it generated a lot of unproductive discussions.
So the current solution with showing the raw ratings at bout time only in the boxer record seems the best to me as a relative indicator for the career development of a boxer's ratings.
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jujigatame
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1) Is it possible to see even the star ratings on the fighter pages? I see bout ratings, but not ratings for the 2 fighters in the bout.computerrank wrote: ↑20 Jan 2023, 08:23After a while, I think, it is a good solution to show the rankings only.jujigatame wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023, 20:32 Are we never getting the numerical ratings back? It's seeming less and less likely as time goes on.
Always when I had to adapt the ratings algorithm, the pure numbers often might have changed a lot technically, but often not really important for the ranking. In spite of that it generated a lot of unproductive discussions.
So the current solution with showing the raw ratings at bout time only in the boxer record seems the best to me as a relative indicator for the career development of a boxer's ratings.
2) One big problem is the lack of ability to compare between divisions. Like previously if I saw a guy had 100 points and I could see the ratings of the divisions above and below him, I could get a vague sense of where he'd fit in if he moved up or down. Now, I can't.
Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
A good compromise would be to show the ratings for people who choose to see them. They add a lot of information, and the public-facing database is poorer without them.computerrank wrote: ↑20 Jan 2023, 08:23After a while, I think, it is a good solution to show the rankings only.jujigatame wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023, 20:32 Are we never getting the numerical ratings back? It's seeming less and less likely as time goes on.
Always when I had to adapt the ratings algorithm, the pure numbers often might have changed a lot technically, but often not really important for the ranking. In spite of that it generated a lot of unproductive discussions.
So the current solution with showing the raw ratings at bout time only in the boxer record seems the best to me as a relative indicator for the career development of a boxer's ratings.
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jujigatame
- Heavyweight

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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
I strongly agree with this. Would like an opt-in to see the numerical ratings.716481 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 13:10A good compromise would be to show the ratings for people who choose to see them. They add a lot of information, and the public-facing database is poorer without them.computerrank wrote: ↑20 Jan 2023, 08:23After a while, I think, it is a good solution to show the rankings only.jujigatame wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023, 20:32 Are we never getting the numerical ratings back? It's seeming less and less likely as time goes on.
Always when I had to adapt the ratings algorithm, the pure numbers often might have changed a lot technically, but often not really important for the ranking. In spite of that it generated a lot of unproductive discussions.
So the current solution with showing the raw ratings at bout time only in the boxer record seems the best to me as a relative indicator for the career development of a boxer's ratings.
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pugilisticspecialist
- Heavyweight

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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
Numerical ratings are a useful debate-solver.
There are people who claim "a shot Lennox beat a prime Vitali!"
There are others who argue "a prime Lennox went life and death with a super-green Vitali!"
Having numerical ratings can give us a better idea of the real context around fights.
There are people who claim "a shot Lennox beat a prime Vitali!"
There are others who argue "a prime Lennox went life and death with a super-green Vitali!"
Having numerical ratings can give us a better idea of the real context around fights.
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computerrank
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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
There is nothing hidden currently:pugilisticspecialist wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 13:14 Numerical ratings are a useful debate-solver.
There are people who claim "a shot Lennox beat a prime Vitali!"
There are others who argue "a prime Lennox went life and death with a super-green Vitali!"
Having numerical ratings can give us a better idea of the real context around fights.
- Look at the ratings of both at time of their clash: Lewis 464.9 Lewvs Klitschko 140.1 => Lewis clearly rated higher at that point
- It was Lewis' career high rating, so he was on top of his fighting strength
- Klitschko was on his way up and reached his top rating 7 years later with 605.0.
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pugilisticspecialist
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Rating says #NA for me... https://boxrec.com/en/event/305504/596265computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 13:36There is nothing hidden currently:pugilisticspecialist wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 13:14 Numerical ratings are a useful debate-solver.
There are people who claim "a shot Lennox beat a prime Vitali!"
There are others who argue "a prime Lennox went life and death with a super-green Vitali!"
Having numerical ratings can give us a better idea of the real context around fights.
- Look at the ratings of both at time of their clash: Lewis 464.9 Lewvs Klitschko 140.1 => Lewis clearly rated higher at that point
- It was Lewis' career high rating, so he was on top of his fighting strength
- Klitschko was on his way up and reached his top rating 7 years later with 605.0.
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jujigatame
- Heavyweight

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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
How do you view ratings at the time of the fight? I don't see it on the fighter pages any more.computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 13:36There is nothing hidden currently:pugilisticspecialist wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 13:14 Numerical ratings are a useful debate-solver.
There are people who claim "a shot Lennox beat a prime Vitali!"
There are others who argue "a prime Lennox went life and death with a super-green Vitali!"
Having numerical ratings can give us a better idea of the real context around fights.
- Look at the ratings of both at time of their clash: Lewis 464.9 Lewvs Klitschko 140.1 => Lewis clearly rated higher at that point
- It was Lewis' career high rating, so he was on top of his fighting strength
- Klitschko was on his way up and reached his top rating 7 years later with 605.0.
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computerrank
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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
Just above the list of bouts on the fighter's page you can click on the icon "ratings on/off" in order to see the ratings/or not ...jujigatame wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:42How do you view ratings at the time of the fight? I don't see it on the fighter pages any more.computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 13:36There is nothing hidden currently:pugilisticspecialist wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 13:14 Numerical ratings are a useful debate-solver.
There are people who claim "a shot Lennox beat a prime Vitali!"
There are others who argue "a prime Lennox went life and death with a super-green Vitali!"
Having numerical ratings can give us a better idea of the real context around fights.
- Look at the ratings of both at time of their clash: Lewis 464.9 Lewvs Klitschko 140.1 => Lewis clearly rated higher at that point
- It was Lewis' career high rating, so he was on top of his fighting strength
- Klitschko was on his way up and reached his top rating 7 years later with 605.0.
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pugilisticspecialist
- Heavyweight

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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
I can't see points ratings anywhere. Not on fighter pages, not on event pages, not on bout pages.computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:55Just above the list of bouts on the fighter's page you can click on the icon "ratings on/off" in order to see the ratings/or not ...jujigatame wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:42How do you view ratings at the time of the fight? I don't see it on the fighter pages any more.computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 13:36 There is nothing hidden currently:
- Look at the ratings of both at time of their clash: Lewis 464.9 Lewvs Klitschko 140.1 => Lewis clearly rated higher at that point
- It was Lewis' career high rating, so he was on top of his fighting strength
- Klitschko was on his way up and reached his top rating 7 years later with 605.0.
There's no option to toggle either. I've tried Firefox and Chrome.
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computerrank
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pugilisticspecialist wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 17:03I can't see points ratings anywhere. Not on fighter pages, not on event pages, not on bout pages.computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:55Just above the list of bouts on the fighter's page you can click on the icon "ratings on/off" in order to see the ratings/or not ...jujigatame wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:42
How do you view ratings at the time of the fight? I don't see it on the fighter pages any more.
There's no option to toggle either. I've tried Firefox and Chrome.
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jujigatame
- Heavyweight

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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
Yea when I look at the fighter pages I don't see any ratings option. Maybe you have a special account that gives you that ability?computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 17:29
pugilisticspecialist wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 17:03I can't see points ratings anywhere. Not on fighter pages, not on event pages, not on bout pages.computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:55
Just above the list of bouts on the fighter's page you can click on the icon "ratings on/off" in order to see the ratings/or not ...
There's no option to toggle either. I've tried Firefox and Chrome.I tried to login with a different email address, and I notice, I really do not see the ratings option mentioned ... I will clarify that ...
I do see a "display ratings" dropdown in my account settings page, but as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to actually do anything.
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pugilisticspecialist
- Heavyweight

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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
Where is that exactly? I can't find it.jujigatame wrote: ↑30 Jan 2023, 19:09
I do see a "display ratings" dropdown in my account settings page, but as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to actually do anything.
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jujigatame
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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
If you go to the upper right corner of the BoxRec main page there's a little "person" icon you can click on that has some account settings.pugilisticspecialist wrote: ↑31 Jan 2023, 19:00Where is that exactly? I can't find it.jujigatame wrote: ↑30 Jan 2023, 19:09
I do see a "display ratings" dropdown in my account settings page, but as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to actually do anything.
Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:55Just above the list of bouts on the fighter's page you can click on the icon "ratings on/off" in order to see the ratings/or not ...jujigatame wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:42How do you view ratings at the time of the fight? I don't see it on the fighter pages any more.computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 13:36 There is nothing hidden currently:
- Look at the ratings of both at time of their clash: Lewis 464.9 Lewvs Klitschko 140.1 => Lewis clearly rated higher at that point
- It was Lewis' career high rating, so he was on top of his fighting strength
- Klitschko was on his way up and reached his top rating 7 years later with 605.0.
It has been reported for months (see my message above from july, I even tried creating a second account to see if that solved the problem)) that this feature is no longer working, at least for basic users (which I am). All we can see are rankings (not ratings), I mean by that, for example, that in one upcoming fight, Yves Ulysse Jr is #28 and Gabriel Goillaz Valenzuela is #42. On the page of a boxer, the current ranking is present again on top (along with the national ranking, Ulysse being #1 in Canada). But there is no column featuring the rating for the boxers, no option to display ratings on/off, and no effect when changing that option on profile settings.aumonier2 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2022, 13:18 I confirm the ratings doesn't show for me either, not on the boxer's page, not in the ratings page, nowhere. It is probably due to the new design of the site that was launched for the site that week. I have tried changing the option in my preferences, switching to yes then no then yes again but it has no effect.
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pugilisticspecialist
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Re: Ratings - please read before commenting
computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 17:29
pugilisticspecialist wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 17:03I can't see points ratings anywhere. Not on fighter pages, not on event pages, not on bout pages.computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:55
Just above the list of bouts on the fighter's page you can click on the icon "ratings on/off" in order to see the ratings/or not ...
There's no option to toggle either. I've tried Firefox and Chrome.I tried to login with a different email address, and I notice, I really do not see the ratings option mentioned ... I will clarify that ...
Can I see the all-time peak ratings for light heavyweight and super middleweight, please?
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computerrank
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I sent you a PM.pugilisticspecialist wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 13:17computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 17:29
pugilisticspecialist wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 17:03
I can't see points ratings anywhere. Not on fighter pages, not on event pages, not on bout pages.
There's no option to toggle either. I've tried Firefox and Chrome.I tried to login with a different email address, and I notice, I really do not see the ratings option mentioned ... I will clarify that ...
Can I see the all-time peak ratings for light heavyweight and super middleweight, please?
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computerrank
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I sent you a PM.aumonier wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023, 17:22computerrank wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:55Just above the list of bouts on the fighter's page you can click on the icon "ratings on/off" in order to see the ratings/or not ...jujigatame wrote: ↑29 Jan 2023, 16:42
How do you view ratings at the time of the fight? I don't see it on the fighter pages any more.It has been reported for months (see my message above from july, I even tried creating a second account to see if that solved the problem)) that this feature is no longer working, at least for basic users (which I am). All we can see are rankings (not ratings), I mean by that, for example, that in one upcoming fight, Yves Ulysse Jr is #28 and Gabriel Goillaz Valenzuela is #42. On the page of a boxer, the current ranking is present again on top (along with the national ranking, Ulysse being #1 in Canada). But there is no column featuring the rating for the boxers, no option to display ratings on/off, and no effect when changing that option on profile settings.aumonier2 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2022, 13:18 I confirm the ratings doesn't show for me either, not on the boxer's page, not in the ratings page, nowhere. It is probably due to the new design of the site that was launched for the site that week. I have tried changing the option in my preferences, switching to yes then no then yes again but it has no effect.