keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 11:53
mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2023, 10:58
Alex Matvienko today.... "he knocked out two men whilst shadow boxing".
Mickey, a few serious questions....
Are you interested in all aspects of gypsy culture or just boxing?
When did you first become interested?
Do you have any relatives who are gypsies?
There's nothing malicious about my questions and I don't have an agenda.
Ok, Keith. On the Fury family..... a lot of my posts are very tongue in cheek, it's impossible to have a reasonable debate on here because it is so ridiculously anti Fury. None of my family are gypsies and neither are most of my friends, probably a lot less since i stopped drinking. My best and oldest friends both are but dont really live the life, live in houses, married non travellers. I am godparent to one of their sons. They are Henry Whartons brother and cousin and we are all the same age and go right back to nursery together, long before Henry boxed. As for the other travelling lads, i think it would be impossible to follow the sport to the extent i have all my life, especially in the amateurs and not not know an awful lot of gypy kids. I also know hundreds of non gypsy boxers but that gets overlooked. If i mention Hopey Price, it's not because of his background, i was friends with everyone at his amateur gym before he was born! My best friend in boxing is Graham Fearn, a retired journeyman. I have said all this before but nobody cares unless it is about Tyson. Whilst people accuse me of being deluded when it comes to Tyson, i am not, i am aware of his shortcomings just like anyone else, i just play along for the sake of Boxrec. Some posters, though, if they genuinely believe Tyson is that bad then it says a lot more about them than me. The fact the wins against long undefeated Wlad in Germany and undefeated Wilder in America get criticized is bizarre. Even the Chisora 1 fight, in his backyard, was a very good win. And giving McDermott an immediate rematch after a very controversial win. This forum screams out for fighters to do stuff like that. The 17 year old Tyson losing to Price is brought up FFS. Lennox lost to Biggs but it never gets mentioned. As for the culture, what have i said? Any passing comments are maybe something i have just picked up along the way.
ps if you were at any of the shows in the Wharton days, his fans came from all across society, nowhere near all gypsy.