Klimas: Fury-Usyk is off, Usyk will pursue mandatories

[Contendeh]

Unless real evidence is (ever) produced proving differently, Usyk should be thought of nothing less than the top heavyweight in the world in 2023.

Fury has lost this fight by omission.

Maybe in the minds of disgruntled fans but it doesn't stop the reality that Tyson Fury is the lineal heavyweight champion of the world. Let's suppose he fights Andy Ruiz, the former unified champion, next and beats him. That'll be three heavyweight champions that Fury has defeated in his career (Klitschko, Wilder, Ruiz) just one shy of tying Anthony Joshua (Martin, Klitschko, Parker, Ruiz).

Slowly but surely Tyson Fury will be building the case that he is indeed the best heavyweight of his era because in the end it is strictly a numbers game because if you beat all of the heavyweight or most of them you earn the right to call yourself the best man of the era.

Usyk only has Joshua under his belt as a heavyweight. If Fury beats Ruiz he can look at Usyk and say, "So what you beat Joshua so did Ruiz and I beat him easy" and if Fury actually stops Ruiz he can look at Joshua and say, "So what you avenged a loss? You can away for 12 rounds and I knocked him out."

It'll just make the undisputed clash even bigger, especially if Tyson Fury actually gets to face off against Anthony Joshua in the summer and if he's able to defeat Joshua then he can say to Usyk, "So what makes you so special?"

I wouldn’t say disgruntled. Objective. He had the chance to fight the OTHER top ranked Heavy of this era and it would appear he has balked and priced himself out.

People still knock Bowe for not fighting Lewis thirty years ago and Bowe BEAT Evander Holyfield two of three.

From a legacy standpoint, missing this fight is extremely damaging for Fury. It’s not just missing a fight it’s missing THE FIGHT.

[HomicideHenry]

Unless real evidence is (ever) produced proving differently, Usyk should be thought of nothing less than the top heavyweight in the world in 2023.

Fury has lost this fight by omission.

Maybe in the minds of disgruntled fans but it doesn't stop the reality that Tyson Fury is the lineal heavyweight champion of the world. Let's suppose he fights Andy Ruiz, the former unified champion, next and beats him. That'll be three heavyweight champions that Fury has defeated in his career (Klitschko, Wilder, Ruiz) just one shy of tying Anthony Joshua (Martin, Klitschko, Parker, Ruiz).

Slowly but surely Tyson Fury will be building the case that he is indeed the best heavyweight of his era because in the end it is strictly a numbers game because if you beat all of the heavyweight or most of them you earn the right to call yourself the best man of the era.

Usyk only has Joshua under his belt as a heavyweight. If Fury beats Ruiz he can look at Usyk and say, "So what you beat Joshua so did Ruiz and I beat him easy" and if Fury actually stops Ruiz he can look at Joshua and say, "So what you avenged a loss? You can away for 12 rounds and I knocked him out."

It'll just make the undisputed clash even bigger, especially if Tyson Fury actually gets to face off against Anthony Joshua in the summer and if he's able to defeat Joshua then he can say to Usyk, "So what makes you so special?"

I wouldn’t say disgruntled. Objective. He had the chance to fight the OTHER top ranked Heavy of this era and it would appear he has balked and priced himself out.

People still knock Bowe for not fighting Lewis thirty years ago and Bowe BEAT Evander Holyfield two of three.

From a legacy standpoint, missing this fight is extremely damaging for Fury. It’s not just missing a fight it’s missing THE FIGHT.

Provided Usyk doesn't lose to Dubois or Hrgovic or Joyce. If Fury goes ahead and beats Ruiz and Joshua, and Usyk loses somewhere along the way then its not "the fight" of the era.

It's possible by winter 2023 or spring 2024, if Usyk doesn't lose, that it would still be "the fight," and even bigger then than it is now because everybody else in the division worth anything has been pushed out of the way.

[Finkel]

Maybe in the minds of disgruntled fans but it doesn't stop the reality that Tyson Fury is the lineal heavyweight champion of the world. Let's suppose he fights Andy Ruiz, the former unified champion, next and beats him. That'll be three heavyweight champions that Fury has defeated in his career (Klitschko, Wilder, Ruiz) just one shy of tying Anthony Joshua (Martin, Klitschko, Parker, Ruiz).

Slowly but surely Tyson Fury will be building the case that he is indeed the best heavyweight of his era because in the end it is strictly a numbers game because if you beat all of the heavyweight or most of them you earn the right to call yourself the best man of the era.

Usyk only has Joshua under his belt as a heavyweight. If Fury beats Ruiz he can look at Usyk and say, "So what you beat Joshua so did Ruiz and I beat him easy" and if Fury actually stops Ruiz he can look at Joshua and say, "So what you avenged a loss? You can away for 12 rounds and I knocked him out."

It'll just make the undisputed clash even bigger, especially if Tyson Fury actually gets to face off against Anthony Joshua in the summer and if he's able to defeat Joshua then he can say to Usyk, "So what makes you so special?"

I wouldn’t say disgruntled. Objective. He had the chance to fight the OTHER top ranked Heavy of this era and it would appear he has balked and priced himself out.

People still knock Bowe for not fighting Lewis thirty years ago and Bowe BEAT Evander Holyfield two of three.

From a legacy standpoint, missing this fight is extremely damaging for Fury. It’s not just missing a fight it’s missing THE FIGHT.

Provided Usyk doesn't lose to Dubois or Hrgovic or Joyce. If Fury goes ahead and beats Ruiz and Joshua, and Usyk loses somewhere along the way then its not "the fight" of the era.

It's possible by winter 2023 or spring 2024, if Usyk doesn't lose, that it would still be "the fight," and even bigger then than it is now because everybody else in the division worth anything has been pushed out of the way.

They are both mid-30s. The orgs are allowing it and not forcing mandatories. The time is now.

This is the fight: the unbeaten, lineal, WBC champion vs the unbeaten, unified, P4P#1.

Let's not parrot Fury's obvious long-term plan like it is a valid reason to duck the fight.

[HomicideHenry]

I wouldn’t say disgruntled. Objective. He had the chance to fight the OTHER top ranked Heavy of this era and it would appear he has balked and priced himself out.

People still knock Bowe for not fighting Lewis thirty years ago and Bowe BEAT Evander Holyfield two of three.

From a legacy standpoint, missing this fight is extremely damaging for Fury. It’s not just missing a fight it’s missing THE FIGHT.

Provided Usyk doesn't lose to Dubois or Hrgovic or Joyce. If Fury goes ahead and beats Ruiz and Joshua, and Usyk loses somewhere along the way then its not "the fight" of the era.

It's possible by winter 2023 or spring 2024, if Usyk doesn't lose, that it would still be "the fight," and even bigger then than it is now because everybody else in the division worth anything has been pushed out of the way.

They are both mid-30s. The orgs are allowing it and not forcing mandatories. The time is now.

This is the fight: the unbeaten, lineal, WBC champion vs the unbeaten, unified, P4P#1.

Let's not parrot Fury's obvious long-term plan like it is a valid reason to duck the fight.

Well they only have less than 3 days to accomplish it and I very much doubt it's going to get made in that time period, so after that the organizations are going to force the mandatories on both Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk.

I think the fight will happen but it most likely will happen in the winter time if not spring of next year. I would have loved to have seen it happen in April just like everyone else but as long as I have been a boxing fan the one thing I know to be true is that this sport will disappoint you more than it will leave you content.

I think Tyson Fury knows even if he blows out Andy Ruiz in his next outing that the undisputed fight will constantly hang over his head and he can't really avoid it because every question from here on out will be about Usyk. I think it will happen it's just not going to happen anytime soon.

[Finkel]

Provided Usyk doesn't lose to Dubois or Hrgovic or Joyce. If Fury goes ahead and beats Ruiz and Joshua, and Usyk loses somewhere along the way then its not "the fight" of the era.

It's possible by winter 2023 or spring 2024, if Usyk doesn't lose, that it would still be "the fight," and even bigger then than it is now because everybody else in the division worth anything has been pushed out of the way.

They are both mid-30s. The orgs are allowing it and not forcing mandatories. The time is now.

This is the fight: the unbeaten, lineal, WBC champion vs the unbeaten, unified, P4P#1.

Let's not parrot Fury's obvious long-term plan like it is a valid reason to duck the fight.

Well they only have less than 3 days to accomplish it and I very much doubt it's going to get made in that time period, so after that the organizations are going to force the mandatories on both Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk.

I think the fight will happen but it most likely will happen in the winter time if not spring of next year. I would have loved to have seen it happen in April just like everyone else but as long as I have been a boxing fan the one thing I know to be true is that this sport will disappoint you more than it will leave you content.

I think Tyson Fury knows even if he blows out Andy Ruiz in his next outing that the undisputed fight will constantly hang over his head and he can't really avoid it because every question from here on out will be about Usyk. I think it will happen it's just not going to happen anytime soon.

I agree that if not now, then we won't be seeing it anytime soon. But I think you are being very optimistic to suggest it happens this year.

* WBA will likely get called next. Krassyuk is already talking about Usyk v Dubois.

* WBC mandatory has yet to be established. The final eliminator is sitting idle.

* IBF mandatory comes next and is already due. They held off to let these negotiations happen. No way Hearn takes
step aside on behalf of Hrgovic. So that is 2023 written off.

* WBO mandatory - Joyce will have been waiting two years at that point. Now, perhaps, Fury will fight Joyce before
then. But if not, and it gets to that point, with Joyce's advancing age, he is unlikely to step aside.

At which point we're in 2024, and Usyk, whose styles leans heavily on his agility, will be 37

It's a joke, and the biggest duck since Bowe dumped the belt in the trashcan to avoid Lewis all those years ago.

[funso banjo baby]

Usyk isn't world champ, a handful of alphabets and not very exciting at heavyweight

I'd much rather see Fury v Joyce next

[HomicideHenry]

They are both mid-30s. The orgs are allowing it and not forcing mandatories. The time is now.

This is the fight: the unbeaten, lineal, WBC champion vs the unbeaten, unified, P4P#1.

Let's not parrot Fury's obvious long-term plan like it is a valid reason to duck the fight.

Well they only have less than 3 days to accomplish it and I very much doubt it's going to get made in that time period, so after that the organizations are going to force the mandatories on both Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk.

I think the fight will happen but it most likely will happen in the winter time if not spring of next year. I would have loved to have seen it happen in April just like everyone else but as long as I have been a boxing fan the one thing I know to be true is that this sport will disappoint you more than it will leave you content.

I think Tyson Fury knows even if he blows out Andy Ruiz in his next outing that the undisputed fight will constantly hang over his head and he can't really avoid it because every question from here on out will be about Usyk. I think it will happen it's just not going to happen anytime soon.

I agree that if not now, then we won't be seeing it anytime soon. But I think you are being very optimistic to suggest it happens this year.

* WBA will likely get called next. Krassyuk is already talking about Usyk v Dubois.

* WBC mandatory has yet to be established. The final eliminator is sitting idle.

* IBF mandatory comes next and is already due. They held off to let these negotiations happen. No way Hearn takes
step aside on behalf of Hrgovic. So that is 2023 written off.

* WBO mandatory - Joyce will have been waiting two years at that point. Now, perhaps, Fury will fight Joyce before
then. But if not, and it gets to that point, with Joyce's advancing age, he is unlikely to step aside.

At which point we're in 2024, and Usyk, whose styles leans heavily on his agility, will be 37

It's a joke, and the biggest duck since Bowe dumped the belt in the trashcan to avoid Lewis all those years ago.

If the fight happens in 2023 or 2024 it's not a duck. I'm kind of of the opinion of Tyson Fury that whether a fight happens next month or next year if the Ukrainian can't beat him then he never could at any time, just like Manny Pacquiao couldn't beat Floyd Mayweather.

People are acting like Fury is some spring chicken when he's 34-35 himself and one can make an argument that perhaps he had to change styles because he started losing agility in his legs. So by the time both men would face each other they both would still be evenly matched regardless.

I'm sure it's possible that at least one of the mandatories might be able to be pushed to the side to make it happen. That is if it was in the contract that whoever won the Undisputed fight would have to fight that mandatory that stepped aside.

I understand people are more than upset and quite frankly I'm pretty disappointed too but to act like the fight will not happen at all is a premature reaction. You can thank Jesus that we don't live in one of those earlier eras where a champion might have held on to the belt for 3 years or better and never defended it once.

This is why I often say boxing fans are probably the most spoiled of all sports fans out there because they are so emotionally involved that if they don't get their way on a certain time table they completely turn on the sport or they stop being fans of somebody when it's an irrational reaction.

[Bandog]

Just saw Fury saying he wants 70/30. I hope Usyk takes it.

[The Gratest]

Some impassioned fans even go as far as blatanly lying in order to protect their favourite fighter.
6ft3" 220lbs.

Fury isn't afraid of Usyk. He is afraid of defeat though, losing the aura he's built up and the fallout that will come from it. To place yourself on a self projected pedestal so far above your peers, whilst constantly belittling their abilities, it's a helluva long way down once that first defeat occurs.
He's tested the waters psychologically with Usyk, and realised he's no Wlad Klitschko. So no advantage there.
He's also witnessed Usyk's boxing skills mixed with determination and realised there's no advantage there.
He realises the danger he could be up against and is making a completey hypocritical excuse about money to avoid the fight.

[HomicideHenry]

Some impassioned fans even go as far as blatanly lying in order to protect their favourite fighter.
6ft3" 220lbs.

Fury isn't afraid of Usyk. He is afraid of defeat though, losing the aura he's built up and the fallout that will come from it. To place yourself on a self projected pedestal so far above your peers, whilst constantly belittling their abilities, it's a helluva long way down once that first defeat occurs.
He's tested the waters psychologically with Usyk, and realised he's no Wlad Klitschko. So no advantage there.
He's also witnessed Usyk's boxing skills mixed with determination and realised there's no advantage there.
He realises the danger he could be up against and is making a completey hypocritical excuse about money to avoid the fight.

If Usyk takes the 30%.... that might be the very psychological edge that Tyson Fury is looking for because if the Ukrainian team can cave on at least one thing that will show that someone was willing to give in first.

[The Gratest]

Some impassioned fans even go as far as blatanly lying in order to protect their favourite fighter.
6ft3" 220lbs.

Fury isn't afraid of Usyk. He is afraid of defeat though, losing the aura he's built up and the fallout that will come from it. To place yourself on a self projected pedestal so far above your peers, whilst constantly belittling their abilities, it's a helluva long way down once that first defeat occurs.
He's tested the waters psychologically with Usyk, and realised he's no Wlad Klitschko. So no advantage there.
He's also witnessed Usyk's boxing skills mixed with determination and realised there's no advantage there.
He realises the danger he could be up against and is making a completey hypocritical excuse about money to avoid the fight.

If Usyk takes the 30%.... that might be the very psychological edge that Tyson Fury is looking for because if the Ukrainian team can cave on at least one thing that will show that someone was willing to give in first.

I thought Fury's psycholigical edge was Usyk being around the same size as Fury's wife?
Your opinion has little or no integrity attached to it.

[HomicideHenry]

Some impassioned fans even go as far as blatanly lying in order to protect their favourite fighter.
6ft3" 220lbs.

Fury isn't afraid of Usyk. He is afraid of defeat though, losing the aura he's built up and the fallout that will come from it. To place yourself on a self projected pedestal so far above your peers, whilst constantly belittling their abilities, it's a helluva long way down once that first defeat occurs.
He's tested the waters psychologically with Usyk, and realised he's no Wlad Klitschko. So no advantage there.
He's also witnessed Usyk's boxing skills mixed with determination and realised there's no advantage there.
He realises the danger he could be up against and is making a completey hypocritical excuse about money to avoid the fight.

If Usyk takes the 30%.... that might be the very psychological edge that Tyson Fury is looking for because if the Ukrainian team can cave on at least one thing that will show that someone was willing to give in first.

I thought Fury's psycholigical edge was Usyk being around the same size as Fury's wife?
Your opinion has little or no integrity attached to it.

Once again you guys did not understand what I meant with the analogy that the Ukrainian was closer to Fury's wife's height and weight than he was Tyson's height and weight.

That being said it does also play into the psychology because when was the last time you saw somebody that size be able to do anything really with Tyson Fury? Cunningham?

Outside of that knock down for a four count, I don't think Cunningham really posed any real threat or danger and regardless that was over a decade ago and Tyson Fury is far better than he was back then so it's really apples and oranges; and at that time you could have argued that Cunningham was one of the top five or top ten cruiserweights of all time anyways.

Regardless if the Ukrainian's accept the 30%, I think it goes back to when Tyson Fury was in Vladimir Klitschko's training camp with the sauna room and Klitschko left the sauna first. If Usyk gives into the demand that will tell Tyson Fury that the Ukrainian was willing to give up his admission of being the best heavyweight in the world.

[The Gratest]

If Usyk takes the 30%.... that might be the very psychological edge that Tyson Fury is looking for because if the Ukrainian team can cave on at least one thing that will show that someone was willing to give in first.

I thought Fury's psycholigical edge was Usyk being around the same size as Fury's wife?
Your opinion has little or no integrity attached to it.

Once again you guys did not understand what I meant with the analogy that the Ukrainian was closer to Fury's wife's height and weight than he was Tyson's height and weight.

That being said it does also play into the psychology because when was the last time you saw somebody that size be able to do anything really with Tyson Fury? Cunningham?

Outside of that knock down for a four count, I don't think Cunningham really posed any real threat or danger and regardless that was over a decade ago and Tyson Fury is far better than he was back then so it's really apples and oranges; and at that time you could have argued that Cunningham was one of the top five or top ten cruiserweights of all time anyways.

Regardless if the Ukrainian's accept the 30%, I think it goes back to when Tyson Fury was in Vladimir Klitschko's training camp with the sauna room and Klitschko left the sauna first. If Usyk gives into the demand that will tell Tyson Fury that the Ukrainian was willing to give up his admission of being the best heavyweight in the world.

the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

All shite, and all lies.
Blah blah blah blah...

[HomicideHenry]

I thought Fury's psycholigical edge was Usyk being around the same size as Fury's wife?
Your opinion has little or no integrity attached to it.

Once again you guys did not understand what I meant with the analogy that the Ukrainian was closer to Fury's wife's height and weight than he was Tyson's height and weight.

That being said it does also play into the psychology because when was the last time you saw somebody that size be able to do anything really with Tyson Fury? Cunningham?

Outside of that knock down for a four count, I don't think Cunningham really posed any real threat or danger and regardless that was over a decade ago and Tyson Fury is far better than he was back then so it's really apples and oranges; and at that time you could have argued that Cunningham was one of the top five or top ten cruiserweights of all time anyways.

Regardless if the Ukrainian's accept the 30%, I think it goes back to when Tyson Fury was in Vladimir Klitschko's training camp with the sauna room and Klitschko left the sauna first. If Usyk gives into the demand that will tell Tyson Fury that the Ukrainian was willing to give up his admission of being the best heavyweight in the world.

the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

All shite, and all lies.
Blah blah blah blah...

Noted in the future that you're not worth replying to cuz you're a troll like Margaret Thatcher. If you cannot see that Usyk was only 3-4" taller than Paris and 50 pounds heavier than her, when he is 6-7" shorter than Tyson and 60 pounds lighter than him, and still can't understand my meaning when I say he's closer to Tyson's wife's size there's no point.

[The Gratest]

Once again you guys did not understand what I meant with the analogy that the Ukrainian was closer to Fury's wife's height and weight than he was Tyson's height and weight.

That being said it does also play into the psychology because when was the last time you saw somebody that size be able to do anything really with Tyson Fury? Cunningham?

Outside of that knock down for a four count, I don't think Cunningham really posed any real threat or danger and regardless that was over a decade ago and Tyson Fury is far better than he was back then so it's really apples and oranges; and at that time you could have argued that Cunningham was one of the top five or top ten cruiserweights of all time anyways.

Regardless if the Ukrainian's accept the 30%, I think it goes back to when Tyson Fury was in Vladimir Klitschko's training camp with the sauna room and Klitschko left the sauna first. If Usyk gives into the demand that will tell Tyson Fury that the Ukrainian was willing to give up his admission of being the best heavyweight in the world.

the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

All shite, and all lies.
Blah blah blah blah...

Noted in the future that you're not worth replying to cuz you're a troll like Margaret Thatcher. If you cannot see that Usyk was only 3-4" taller than Paris and 50 pounds heavier than her, when he is 6-7" shorter than Tyson and 60 pounds lighter than him, and still can't understand my meaning when I say he's closer to Tyson's wife's size there's no point.

the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

Your reading comprehension is so bad that you don't even understand your own words
Then again, habitual liars always do have problems remembering correctly what they said or wrote.

[HomicideHenry]

All shite, and all lies.
Blah blah blah blah...

Noted in the future that you're not worth replying to cuz you're a troll like Margaret Thatcher. If you cannot see that Usyk was only 3-4" taller than Paris and 50 pounds heavier than her, when he is 6-7" shorter than Tyson and 60 pounds lighter than him, and still can't understand my meaning when I say he's closer to Tyson's wife's size there's no point.

the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

Your reading comprehension is so bad that you don't even understand your own words
Then again, habitual liars always do have problems remembering correctly what they said or wrote.

When the so-called second best heavyweight in the world is only a few short inches taller than your own wife I think what I said is warranted he is not much taller and not much bigger than she is.

And considering how much weight he seems to be losing for this match against Tyson Fury he may come in practically as small as his cruiserweight days which would make him only 40 pounds heavier than Paris Fury.

[The Gratest]

Noted in the future that you're not worth replying to cuz you're a troll like Margaret Thatcher. If you cannot see that Usyk was only 3-4" taller than Paris and 50 pounds heavier than her, when he is 6-7" shorter than Tyson and 60 pounds lighter than him, and still can't understand my meaning when I say he's closer to Tyson's wife's size there's no point.

the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

Your reading comprehension is so bad that you don't even understand your own words
Then again, habitual liars always do have problems remembering correctly what they said or wrote.

When the so-called second best heavyweight in the world is only a few short inches taller than your own wife I think what I said is warranted he is not much taller and not much bigger than she is.

And considering how much weight he seems to be losing for this match against Tyson Fury he may come in practically as small as his cruiserweight days which would make him only 40 pounds heavier than Paris Fury.

Only he's not, that's just you lying again Rufus

the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

[joshj909]

Noted in the future that you're not worth replying to cuz you're a troll like Margaret Thatcher. If you cannot see that Usyk was only 3-4" taller than Paris and 50 pounds heavier than her, when he is 6-7" shorter than Tyson and 60 pounds lighter than him, and still can't understand my meaning when I say he's closer to Tyson's wife's size there's no point.

the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

Your reading comprehension is so bad that you don't even understand your own words
Then again, habitual liars always do have problems remembering correctly what they said or wrote.

When the so-called second best heavyweight in the world is only a few short inches taller than your own wife I think what I said is warranted he is not much taller and not much bigger than she is.

And considering how much weight he seems to be losing for this match against Tyson Fury he may come in practically as small as his cruiserweight days which would make him only 40 pounds heavier than Paris Fury.

Size isn't everything, it's how you use it that counts!

But also, for the millionth time, there's also no way his wife is 6'3 and anywhere close to 220 lbs no matter how many times you repeat it. That's their 14 year old daughter who looks about an inch shorter than Paris. Their 10 year old son is on the left for reference also...

Can't believe how many times we have all had to go over this

[The Gratest]

Sorry I couldn't find how many titles she's won and at how many different weights. Amateur record unavailable as well.

[Finkel]

They are both mid-30s. The orgs are allowing it and not forcing mandatories. The time is now.

This is the fight: the unbeaten, lineal, WBC champion vs the unbeaten, unified, P4P#1.

Let's not parrot Fury's obvious long-term plan like it is a valid reason to duck the fight.

Well they only have less than 3 days to accomplish it and I very much doubt it's going to get made in that time period, so after that the organizations are going to force the mandatories on both Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk.

I think the fight will happen but it most likely will happen in the winter time if not spring of next year. I would have loved to have seen it happen in April just like everyone else but as long as I have been a boxing fan the one thing I know to be true is that this sport will disappoint you more than it will leave you content.

I think Tyson Fury knows even if he blows out Andy Ruiz in his next outing that the undisputed fight will constantly hang over his head and he can't really avoid it because every question from here on out will be about Usyk. I think it will happen it's just not going to happen anytime soon.

I agree that if not now, then we won't be seeing it anytime soon. But I think you are being very optimistic to suggest it happens this year.

* WBA will likely get called next. Krassyuk is already talking about Usyk v Dubois.

* WBC mandatory has yet to be established. The final eliminator is sitting idle.

* IBF mandatory comes next and is already due. They held off to let these negotiations happen. No way Hearn takes
step aside on behalf of Hrgovic. So that is 2023 written off.

* WBO mandatory - Joyce will have been waiting two years at that point. Now, perhaps, Fury will fight Joyce before
then. But if not, and it gets to that point, with Joyce's advancing age, he is unlikely to step aside.

At which point we're in 2024, and Usyk, whose styles leans heavily on his agility, will be 37

It's a joke, and the biggest duck since Bowe dumped the belt in the trashcan to avoid Lewis all those years ago.

fornicate me, he didn't wait long to prove me right.
Demanding 70-30 with Usyk losing 1% for each day he delays accepting.


You'd have to have serious mental trauma to keep defending this shit. Like a form of Stockholm's Syndrome which involves getting reamed daily by Fury and still wanting more.

[The Gratest]

Well they only have less than 3 days to accomplish it and I very much doubt it's going to get made in that time period, so after that the organizations are going to force the mandatories on both Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk.

I think the fight will happen but it most likely will happen in the winter time if not spring of next year. I would have loved to have seen it happen in April just like everyone else but as long as I have been a boxing fan the one thing I know to be true is that this sport will disappoint you more than it will leave you content.

I think Tyson Fury knows even if he blows out Andy Ruiz in his next outing that the undisputed fight will constantly hang over his head and he can't really avoid it because every question from here on out will be about Usyk. I think it will happen it's just not going to happen anytime soon.

I agree that if not now, then we won't be seeing it anytime soon. But I think you are being very optimistic to suggest it happens this year.

* WBA will likely get called next. Krassyuk is already talking about Usyk v Dubois.

* WBC mandatory has yet to be established. The final eliminator is sitting idle.

* IBF mandatory comes next and is already due. They held off to let these negotiations happen. No way Hearn takes
step aside on behalf of Hrgovic. So that is 2023 written off.

* WBO mandatory - Joyce will have been waiting two years at that point. Now, perhaps, Fury will fight Joyce before
then. But if not, and it gets to that point, with Joyce's advancing age, he is unlikely to step aside.

At which point we're in 2024, and Usyk, whose styles leans heavily on his agility, will be 37

It's a joke, and the biggest duck since Bowe dumped the belt in the trashcan to avoid Lewis all those years ago.

fornicate me, he didn't wait long to prove me right.
Demanding 70-30 with Usyk losing 1% for each day he delays accepting.


You'd have to have serious mental trauma to keep defending Fury now. Like a form of Stockholm's Syndrome which involves getting reamed daily by Fury and still wanting more.

Well, there is someone on here who fits that description to a tee.

[Roars Like Me]

I was sure he mentioned that it's not about money these days....got more than enough etc etc...

[Perkin Warbeck]

fornicate me, he didn't wait long to prove me right.
Demanding 70-30 with Usyk losing 1% for each day he delays accepting.


You'd have to have serious mental trauma to keep defending this shit. Like a form of Stockholm's Syndrome which involves getting reamed daily by Fury and still wanting more.

[Bandog]

Greedy Belly gets his way, apparently softening from his demand of a $ amount.

Awesome! Looking forward to it.

[goose 5]

Man, Garcia-Tank; Fury-Usyk and The Monster-Fulton on consecutive weeks.