Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[The Gratest]

I wish he'd stop with that knitting circle stuff. I've always wanted to be able to knit, but just can't manage. Yet here he is insinuating that some bunch of everyday randoms on a boxing forum are somehow experts on it?? What a nasty, nasty individual.

[emallini]

According to Jordan yesterday, there is a plan afoot in Saudi to make:

- Fury vs Usyk
- AJ vs Wilder

For a double header in December.

Winners to face off 3 or 4 months later.

I’ll forgive all boxers involved for anything if that comes off!

[si7dog7]

According to Jordan yesterday, there is a plan afoot in Saudi to make:

- Fury vs Usyk
- AJ vs Wilder

For a double header in December.

Winners to face off 3 or 4 months later.

I’ll forgive all boxers involved for anything if that comes off!

I gotta feeling it’ll be
AJ v Usyk. Again
Wilder v Fury. Again

Then more delays and more bs and more Fugazi

Hmmm.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Nah, don't see that, AJ won't want to lose to Usyk yet again, and it won't sell big either.

[BigDoofus]

Fury couldn’t fight 29th. Not in shape. Otherwise DelBoy would have got a call up to sell out Selhurst Park.

He couldn’t fight Usyk on 29th because Usyk quit camp.
By your argument Usyk would be fighting on 29 April if he was intending to fight.

[polecateddy]

I predict Fury will still be celebrating Chisora 3 at the top of his Twitter feed throughout the rest of the year. Nothing else to shout about but that!

[jamesmcdonnell]

Fury couldn’t fight 29th. Not in shape. Otherwise DelBoy would have got a call up to sell out Selhurst Park.

He couldn’t fight Usyk on 29th because Usyk quit camp.
By your argument Usyk would be fighting on 29 April if he was intending to fight.

Haven't you got any other hobbies other than being a bore?

[jamesmcdonnell]

This proves clearly that Fury wasn't ready to fight in April.

FW was in the negotiations. He thought that Usyk quit negotiations to get more money later in the year. Several esteemed journalists wrote this and were ridiculed by the Boxrec knitting circle. Looks like FW, GAD and co were right.

Sorry Doufus
Forgot to ask

What “esteemed journalists” are you referring to?
And, in what publications can I read this?

Can’t wait to see the click bait articles you come up with

#JimHenson
#MuppetShow

Yeah, I'll go get the popcorn, this should be fun.

[big lennox]

Why is Fury looking at Ruiz instead of Joyce? I thought the plan was for Fury to box Joyce in the summer?

[mickey1975]

Why is Fury looking at Ruiz instead of Joyce? I thought the plan was for Fury to box Joyce in the summer?

Less risk. Although Ruiz destroyed AJ he will be seen as less risk before the big one in Winter. I'm amazed you're surprised at this.

[big lennox]

Why is Fury looking at Ruiz instead of Joyce? I thought the plan was for Fury to box Joyce in the summer?

Less risk. Although Ruiz destroyed AJ he will be seen as less risk before the big one in Winter. I'm amazed you're surprised at this.

If Joyce was with a different promoter then, yes, I would not be surprised if Fury gave Joyce the swerve, but it would be a bigger fight than Fury vs Ruiz and they share the same promoter and TV Network

[joshj909]

Why is Fury looking at Ruiz instead of Joyce? I thought the plan was for Fury to box Joyce in the summer?

Frank playing favourites with Joyce at the bottom of the pile once again. Frank championed Dubois against Joyce and seemed genuinely disappointed when he lost. Frank petitioned for Dubois' to be made mandatory for Usyk before Joyce. Frank avoiding risking Fury against Joyce so Joyce will have to wait it out probably for up to a year.

[HomicideHenry]

According to the rumor mill if Tyson Fury takes on Andy Ruiz then the WBC will order Anthony Joshua versus Deontay Wilder with the winner to take on Fury.

[coneye]

Why is Fury looking at Ruiz instead of Joyce? I thought the plan was for Fury to box Joyce in the summer?

Less risk. Although Ruiz destroyed AJ he will be seen as less risk before the big one in Winter. I'm amazed you're surprised at this.

This I agree with Less risk , however i'll stand by what i've repeatadly said Ruiz really could be a banana skin for Fury , IF and only IF he lays off the mars bars and trains to win , If Tyson gets mobile again and boxes like he has in the past , he could be too slick and smooth for Joe but IF he wants to lean , push , use his weight , Joe could be another banana skin .. really i would be happy to see Fury fight any of the 4 , Usyk - AJ - Ruiz -Joyce , anyone else is justt simply picking easy fights .

Still maintain there will be no fight for Tyson UNTIL after the Usyk - Dubois fight , i still think its been planned out dodge Usyk , let Dubois have a crack then if he's lucky and wins ,go for DD

[mickey1975]

Why is Fury looking at Ruiz instead of Joyce? I thought the plan was for Fury to box Joyce in the summer?

Frank playing favourites with Joyce at the bottom of the pile once again. Frank championed Dubois against Joyce and seemed genuinely disappointed when he lost. Frank petitioned for Dubois' to be made mandatory for Usyk before Joyce. Frank avoiding risking Fury against Joyce so Joyce will have to wait it out probably for up to a year.

I doubt Fwank has a say. Fury is clearly his own boss.

[tonyevs]

Why is Fury looking at Ruiz instead of Joyce? I thought the plan was for Fury to box Joyce in the summer?

Less risk. Although Ruiz destroyed AJ he will be seen as less risk before the big one in Winter. I'm amazed you're surprised at this.

Far less risk for sure

Ruiz may have destroyed AJs confidence and brand when he took his opportunity and got very lucky.

But let's not forget AJ got complacent in the first fight after battering and seemingly going through Ruiz like a hot knife through butter .. and more tellingly, even with his confidence shot he easily outboxed Ruiz shortly after in the rematch.

It's all so predictable with Fury. He ducks AJ and gives his fans Chisora ... He then ducks Usyk and promises his few remaining fans Joyce, and tries to line up fat Andy Ruiz who has looked more fragile than AJ in his subsequent fights since getting lucky all those years ago.

Classic Fury.

[HomicideHenry]

I'm not sure why people would think that Joe Joyce would automatically be a bigger threat than Andy Ruiz. On what basis or grounds? I like Joyce but...

He defeated an older, slower Joseph Parker. Beyond that win he's got Hammer who never was beyond European level, the shell that was Bryant Jennings, shot Stiverne, over-the-hill Ustinov, and British level Dubois.

At least Ruiz has Ortiz and Joshua on his win column, and one can argue he was robbed when he fought prime Parker for the WBO title. And he beat Joe Hanks when Hanks actually was still good, unlike Joyce.

That all being said it would be cool if Fury did fight him 2 or 3 months from now and then fought Joyce in the fall or winter time. Which is plausible considering Joshua is apparently off the table since he won't fight till December.

And considering most people figure Joyce is far more deserving of a shot at Usyk than Dubois and Hrgovic, it definitely would help Fury to knock off Ruiz and Joyce to have the better 2023 than the Ukrainian. Both fights would certainly be great preparation for an undisputed clash with Usyk or at the very least Joshua.

[Nightmare Roy]

I don't think any of the big 3 will want to go anywhere near Joyce, absolute nightmare for all of them. Such a shame he isn't younger.

[margaret thatcher]

I'm not sure why people would think that Joe Joyce would automatically be a bigger threat than Andy Ruiz. On what basis or grounds? I like Joyce but...

He defeated an older, slower Joseph Parker. Beyond that win he's got Hammer who never was beyond European level, the shell that was Bryant Jennings, shot Stiverne, over-the-hill Ustinov, and British level Dubois.

At least Ruiz has Ortiz and Joshua on his win column, and one can argue he was robbed when he fought prime Parker for the WBO title. And he beat Joe Hanks when Hanks actually was still good, unlike Joyce.

That all being said it would be cool if Fury did fight him 2 or 3 months from now and then fought Joyce in the fall or winter time. Which is plausible considering Joshua is apparently off the table since he won't fight till December.

And considering most people figure Joyce is far more deserving of a shot at Usyk than Dubois and Hrgovic, it definitely would help Fury to knock off Ruiz and Joyce to have the better 2023 than the Ukrainian. Both fights would certainly be great preparation for an undisputed clash with Usyk or at the very least Joshua.

ya, joe hanks good win ruiz, dubois/parker/jennings etc just crap for joyce

[HomicideHenry]

I'm not sure why people would think that Joe Joyce would automatically be a bigger threat than Andy Ruiz. On what basis or grounds? I like Joyce but...

He defeated an older, slower Joseph Parker. Beyond that win he's got Hammer who never was beyond European level, the shell that was Bryant Jennings, shot Stiverne, over-the-hill Ustinov, and British level Dubois.

At least Ruiz has Ortiz and Joshua on his win column, and one can argue he was robbed when he fought prime Parker for the WBO title. And he beat Joe Hanks when Hanks actually was still good, unlike Joyce.

That all being said it would be cool if Fury did fight him 2 or 3 months from now and then fought Joyce in the fall or winter time. Which is plausible considering Joshua is apparently off the table since he won't fight till December.

And considering most people figure Joyce is far more deserving of a shot at Usyk than Dubois and Hrgovic, it definitely would help Fury to knock off Ruiz and Joyce to have the better 2023 than the Ukrainian. Both fights would certainly be great preparation for an undisputed clash with Usyk or at the very least Joshua.

ya, joe hanks good win ruiz, dubois/parker/jennings etc just crap for joyce

My whole point is that if you look at Joe Joyce's record Hanks is also there and that Joe Joyce has fought much older versions of opponents that other people have already beaten. When Ruiz beat Hanks he was of some importance. Joyce fought a version nobody cared about.

I like him a lot but I don't know how he's seriously considered beyond European level. This whole era is abysmal in talent levels, that's the only reason why hes remotely in the top 10 or 5 in the world. One can make a serious argument that Zhang is probably the 1st opponent he has had that was actually in their prime and of equal level or footing to Joyce.

[mickey1975]

Why is Fury looking at Ruiz instead of Joyce? I thought the plan was for Fury to box Joyce in the summer?

Less risk. Although Ruiz destroyed AJ he will be seen as less risk before the big one in Winter. I'm amazed you're surprised at this.

Far less risk for sure

Ruiz may have destroyed AJs confidence and brand when he took his opportunity and got very lucky.

But let's not forget AJ got complacent in the first fight after battering and seemingly going through Ruiz like a hot knife through butter .. and more tellingly, even with his confidence shot he easily outboxed Ruiz shortly after in the rematch.

It's all so predictable with Fury. He ducks AJ and gives his fans Chisora ... He then ducks Usyk and promises his few remaining fans Joyce, and tries to line up fat Andy Ruiz who has looked more fragile than AJ in his subsequent fights since getting lucky all those years ago.

Classic Fury.

Got lucky how? Hitting him?

[Counter-puncher]

mmm that neat tuck & roll followed by the perfect counter left hook just screamed 'luck' to anyone who saw it, not to mention the next 4 rounds Ruiz spent luckily beating the daylights out of the unfortunate AJ.

[dookus]

mmm that neat tuck & roll followed by the perfect counter left hook just screamed 'luck' to anyone who saw it, not to mention the next 4 rounds Ruiz spent luckily beating the daylights out of the unfortunate AJ.

[cormack]

Why is Fury looking at Ruiz instead of Joyce? I thought the plan was for Fury to box Joyce in the summer?

fury is all hot air
he aint fighting Joyce or Usyk for that matter .

Ruiz is an easier option as he has dropped off in terms of level since being " champ " 3 years ago almost and is going thru a marriage break up so perfect cannon fodder .

[Nightmare Roy]

Ruiz is very talented but it depends if he's in shape or not, he's the king of altered Instagram images where he looks in shape and then come the weigh in he rocks up looking more like a darts player than a fighter. I'm sure Fury will fancy his chances against him though unlike Usyk.