shalom showing his inexperience and total naivetygregregegg wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 12:58 Im surprised a promoter can pull a fighter out of purse bids.
Its a fighter that earns a mandatory spot, and then promoters bid. IF sky didnt want to bid thats fine, the purse bid should still go ahead. if matchroom put in a bid thats big enough to entice frazer then he takes the fight, or a third party bid of coarse. .
Purse bids are amazing for settling things, you cant just have promoters sabotaging that concept.
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Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
This is where boxing sucks. Clarke should be able to go and fight Wardley on a Matchroom show but it’d most likely end in a load of legal nonsense.gregregegg wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 12:58 Im surprised a promoter can pull a fighter out of purse bids.
Its a fighter that earns a mandatory spot, and then promoters bid. IF sky didnt want to bid thats fine, the purse bid should still go ahead. if matchroom put in a bid thats big enough to entice frazer then he takes the fight, or a third party bid of coarse. .
Purse bids are amazing for settling things, you cant just have promoters sabotaging that concept.
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jameswilson
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Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
Technically it would be Clarke’s decision but he will be doing it under the advice of Boxxer and 258 is my reading of it.gregregegg wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 12:58 Im surprised a promoter can pull a fighter out of purse bids.
Its a fighter that earns a mandatory spot, and then promoters bid. IF sky didnt want to bid thats fine, the purse bid should still go ahead. if matchroom put in a bid thats big enough to entice frazer then he takes the fight, or a third party bid of coarse. .
Purse bids are amazing for settling things, you cant just have promoters sabotaging that concept.
Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
Clarke has been made to look like a clown, his team have bottled a fight with Wardley....a fight on paper that he'd surely be the favourite to win.
Shalom floundering and fumbling around is hardly a great look and I'm sure other boxers have taken note
Shalom floundering and fumbling around is hardly a great look and I'm sure other boxers have taken note
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Pukka Cheese
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Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
Won't it be more like his contract is for X fights or Y years exclusive to sky? Then Z £ per fight (probably going up each one?)gregregegg wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 12:58 Im surprised a promoter can pull a fighter out of purse bids.
Its a fighter that earns a mandatory spot, and then promoters bid. IF sky didnt want to bid thats fine, the purse bid should still go ahead. if matchroom put in a bid thats big enough to entice frazer then he takes the fight, or a third party bid of coarse. .
Purse bids are amazing for settling things, you cant just have promoters sabotaging that concept.
Promoters can bid all the money they want but if Clarke sold his next fight to Sky Sports for a couple grand last year then what can you do....
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mickey1975
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Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
I think he’s on more than a couple…. That’s why they don’t want him getting filled in on DAZN.Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 15:37Won't it be more like his contract is for X fights or Y years exclusive to sky? Then Z £ per fight (probably going up each one?)gregregegg wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 12:58 Im surprised a promoter can pull a fighter out of purse bids.
Its a fighter that earns a mandatory spot, and then promoters bid. IF sky didnt want to bid thats fine, the purse bid should still go ahead. if matchroom put in a bid thats big enough to entice frazer then he takes the fight, or a third party bid of coarse. .
Purse bids are amazing for settling things, you cant just have promoters sabotaging that concept.
Promoters can bid all the money they want but if Clarke sold his next fight to Sky Sports for a couple grand last year then what can you do....
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gregregegg
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Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
Most contracts can’t block a fighter going to the away corner of there are purse bids. (From what I’ve heard), Otherwise purse bids would be useless. If it turns out boxer are putting the power into there contracts it’s a shitshow….Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 15:37Won't it be more like his contract is for X fights or Y years exclusive to sky? Then Z £ per fight (probably going up each one?)gregregegg wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 12:58 Im surprised a promoter can pull a fighter out of purse bids.
Its a fighter that earns a mandatory spot, and then promoters bid. IF sky didnt want to bid thats fine, the purse bid should still go ahead. if matchroom put in a bid thats big enough to entice frazer then he takes the fight, or a third party bid of coarse. .
Purse bids are amazing for settling things, you cant just have promoters sabotaging that concept.
Promoters can bid all the money they want but if Clarke sold his next fight to Sky Sports for a couple grand last year then what can you do....
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leejonesjnr
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If it was down to Sky contracts I’d imagine that BS would have brought that up before today.
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gregregegg
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As do I, which kinda means Frazer had a choice.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 16:24 If it was down to Sky contracts I’d imagine that BS would have brought that up before today.
Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
X2gregregegg wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 16:38As do I, which kinda means Frazer had a choice.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 16:24 If it was down to Sky contracts I’d imagine that BS would have brought that up before today.
The fighter has a choice, if he doesn't, then he is with the wrong people.
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Twinkle Toes
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Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
Clarke's management team where the one's who chased up this title shot, so someone somewhere else in the set up didn't want it.
Shalom is the one that seemed least interested in it to me.
Shalom is the one that seemed least interested in it to me.
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handsofstone
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Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
Hearn interview now on ifl, Boxxer getting rinsed
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Eddie can muster a lot of outrage for people outside his organisation, Connor Benn not so much..
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Nightmare Roy
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The Connor Benn stuff is probably the biggest boxing public relations disaster I've ever seen but Hearn is right about this situation, it is bizarre, looking forward to hearing Shalom and Fraizer
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Frostieballs
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So Shalom comes onto the scene claiming he’s going to change things and work with everybody… but when push comes to shove he’s more of the same.
Clarke was really angry earlier this week. Now we know why.
As far as I remember, contracts typically couldn’t exclude a boxer appearing on somebody else’s show, particularly in a purse bid situation.
The stipulation would generally be that the promoter of the away boxer would get a cut of the purse as compensation.
In reality the promoter would talk his man out of it, with promises of other fights/purses. I think this has happened here. If Clark really wanted to fight, he could, but it would cause a rift.
Clarke was really angry earlier this week. Now we know why.
As far as I remember, contracts typically couldn’t exclude a boxer appearing on somebody else’s show, particularly in a purse bid situation.
The stipulation would generally be that the promoter of the away boxer would get a cut of the purse as compensation.
In reality the promoter would talk his man out of it, with promises of other fights/purses. I think this has happened here. If Clark really wanted to fight, he could, but it would cause a rift.
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Nightmare Roy
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Wardley summed it up perfectly "Embarrassing" Shalom and Clarke look like a right pair of tits.Frostieballs wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 03:07 So Shalom comes onto the scene claiming he’s going to change things and work with everybody… but when push comes to shove he’s more of the same.
Clarke was really angry earlier this week. Now we know why.
As far as I remember, contracts typically couldn’t exclude a boxer appearing on somebody else’s show, particularly in a purse bid situation.
The stipulation would generally be that the promoter of the away boxer would get a cut of the purse as compensation.
In reality the promoter would talk his man out of it, with promises of other fights/purses. I think this has happened here. If Clark really wanted to fight, he could, but it would cause a rift.
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gregregegg
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Wardley vs DDD would be lovely...
Beauty lil matchroom vs franky frank purse bid sitch. like the good ol days...
Beauty lil matchroom vs franky frank purse bid sitch. like the good ol days...
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Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
Hearn’s said he’d like a purse bud for Wardley v Adeleye and to be fair Adeleye called for that. With Adeleye’s next fight 4 weeks away he’s hardly going to be getting in there with a big test. A 10 rounder vs Rydell Booker is probably the most we can hope for there.
Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
dont see how clarke would be a favourite to win frankly .
wardley is faster more agressive and has better pro experience whilst clarke is lumbering slow and finding his feet in the pro ranks .
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Is adeleye the young lad signed to warren people are calling a young mike tyson?jameswilson wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 09:47 Hearn’s said he’d like a purse bud for Wardley v Adeleye and to be fair Adeleye called for that. With Adeleye’s next fight 4 weeks away he’s hardly going to be getting in there with a big test. A 10 rounder vs Rydell Booker is probably the most we can hope for there.
Edit. I just realized that lads name is ituama
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Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
DDD is in negotiations for Usyk and if they can’t get a deal finalised then there will be purse bids for it.gregregegg wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 07:40 Wardley vs DDD would be lovely...
Beauty lil matchroom vs franky frank purse bid sitch. like the good ol days...
He’s position is a few levels ahead of Wardley at the moment.
Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
I feel a bit for 'Big Fraze' as he's a good talker and clearly keen. But he's been royally mugged off here by someone who has popped up out of nowhere and appears greener than the Hulk's pet frog
It will be hard to take Frazer seriously again after this duck.
It will be hard to take Frazer seriously again after this duck.
Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
This is comically bad damage limitation here. Talking out his arse and nobody is believing it. Not a good look as a relative newbie on the scene.
1. Clarke is not the A side at this stage.
2. If he would beat Wardley I'm his first fight then why not in his sixth?
3. It's purse bids. You win the bid and you get to dictate terms.
4. He has to increase from 6 rounders at some stage, if he's so good then Wardley would be easy work for a 10/12 rounder.
Re: Fabio Wardley vs. Frazer Clarke - BBBofC Ordered
258 management gurus have a hand in this and are so far totally absent from the discussion .joshj909 wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 12:43
This is comically bad damage limitation here. Talking out his arse and nobody is believing it. Not a good look as a relative newbie on the scene.
1. Clarke is not the A side at this stage.
2. If he would beat Wardley I'm his first fight then why not in his sixth?
3. It's purse bids. You win the bid and you get to dictate terms.
4. He has to increase from 6 rounders at some stage, if he's so good then Wardley would be easy work for a 10/12 rounder.
They wanted clarke to be given the mando in the first place and lobbied the board to get it .
Front up you set of clowns !
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Hearn plays his internet minions like sheep and they are totally oblivious.