Most padded record?

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Hassan Chitsaz (27-1)

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/131476

He faced and beat some of these opponents three times and lost for the only time when he inexplicably decided to fight outside of Mexico...
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Les Norton wrote: 22 Mar 2023, 08:56 Errol Spence
Not even close
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 07:18 And the winner is..................

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/4777

Take away the losses and look what you got. How he ever got title shots is beyond me.
that's absolutely bizarre! there must've been 100 heavyweights more deserving of a title shot than he was when he faced holyfield.

could it be he was a don king protege?
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wait what? his moorer fight was already also a title shot (ibf)?

one couldn't make that shit up if u wanted too.
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Bean was a boring MF too. The Moorer fight was fairly close because Moorer kept falling alseep on Bean's shoulder during clinches. Padded and boring is a bad combination
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Lackeos wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 16:36 Mark De Mori, 40-2-2, ranked #298 https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/237842
De Mori's record makes for shocking reading. There were times when he was fairly highly ranked too but it was based entirely on his win/loss record and ignored the fact that he has never beaten anybody of any note.

Now in his 40s, De Mori is still fighting circus freaks in empty venues.
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Redback Rasta wrote: 06 Jun 2023, 22:04
Lackeos wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 16:36 Mark De Mori, 40-2-2, ranked #298 https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/237842
De Mori's record makes for shocking reading. There were times when he was fairly highly ranked too but it was based entirely on his win/loss record and ignored the fact that he has never beaten anybody of any note.

Now in his 40s, De Mori is still fighting tomato cans and circus freaks in virtually empty venues.

An example of his recent work :


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de mori cleaning out indonesia's hw scene :lol:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2023, 22:15 de mori cleaning out indonesia's hw scene :lol:
On his Instagram, De Mori makes these lofty claims :

"Former World Heavyweight Champion (WBU & WBF) Current Indonesian Champion"
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Redback Rasta wrote: 06 Jun 2023, 22:52
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2023, 22:15 de mori cleaning out indonesia's hw scene :lol:
On his Instagram, De Mori makes these lofty claims :

"Former World Heavyweight Champion (WBU & WBF) Current Indonesian Champion"
Technically it’s true, but we know the true worth of these baubles…

In fact, I’m fairly sure I remember that he won titles like the UBO and GBU as well when he was knocking out Czech taxi drivers, perhaps even he is too ashamed to mention those!
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chinarich wrote: 07 Jun 2023, 12:39
Redback Rasta wrote: 06 Jun 2023, 22:52
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2023, 22:15 de mori cleaning out indonesia's hw scene :lol:
On his Instagram, De Mori makes these lofty claims :

"Former World Heavyweight Champion (WBU & WBF) Current Indonesian Champion"
Technically it’s true, but we know the true worth of these baubles…

In fact, I’m fairly sure I remember that he won titles like the UBO and GBU as well when he was knocking out Czech taxi drivers, perhaps even he is too ashamed to mention those!
I realize there is every likely hood they are true. I was just taking the pi55 about the value of the titles and the irony that De Mori is not just the Indonesian champion, but bragging about the fact :lol:

I did a Boxrec search of active Indonesian heavyweights and it didn't return a single find. So De Mori's reign is likely to be long.
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that's what the joke was about that de mori 'cleaned out the division' which consists of that one single natural super middle skinny fat indonesian 220 pound 6' 3' guy as sole heavyweight in all of indonesia whose name i can't recall that demori beat for the claim of indonesian 'heavyweight champ'.

that indonesion guy is also banned indefinitely by the japanese boxing commision, only god knows why.
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adislav123 wrote: 07 Jun 2023, 19:38 that's what the joke was about that de mori 'cleaned out the division' which consists of that one single natural super middle skinny fat indonesian 220 pound 6' 3' guy as sole heavyweight in all of indonesia whose name i can't recall that demori beat for the claim of indonesian 'heavyweight champ'.

that indonesion guy is also banned indefinitely by the japanese boxing commision, only god knows why.
:clap:

The way he reacted after he lost suggests there could be something a bit amiss with him. He has been knocked out 16 times and that can't be good for you.
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Fabio Maldonado at 26-0 was very padded. Fight #23 was against a guy who was 1-0 !

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/171565
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I heard George Collins had a weak resume but on close examination it isn't horrendous. Warren was high on him.
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I remember Dubois was being hyped for fighting Fujimoto, as he was the Japanese HW champ. You look and realise there are only 3 and fujimoto had lost to Ishida who was a light middle weight at one stage.

Fujimoto is a kick boxer now and allegedly doing well.
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wrighty wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 10:54 I remember Dubois was being hyped for fighting Fujimoto, as he was the Japanese HW champ. You look and realise there are only 3 and fujimoto had lost to Ishida who was a light middle weight at one stage.

Fujimoto is a kick boxer now and allegedly doing well.
Fujimoto was a kickboxing prior to his boxing career which then seemed to come off the back of his increased platform which he gained from Kickboxing (I believe). He actually had a very successful kickboxing resume given how small it was prior to competing in boxing, having wins over big names such as Saki and Le Banner.
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joshj909 wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 12:50
wrighty wrote: 10 Jun 2023, 10:54 I remember Dubois was being hyped for fighting Fujimoto, as he was the Japanese HW champ. You look and realise there are only 3 and fujimoto had lost to Ishida who was a light middle weight at one stage.

Fujimoto is a kick boxer now and allegedly doing well.
Fujimoto was a kickboxing prior to his boxing career which then seemed to come off the back of his increased platform which he gained from Kickboxing (I believe). He actually had a very successful kickboxing resume given how small it was prior to competing in boxing, having wins over big names such as Saki and Le Banner.
I wouldn't step outside with him. I don't think Japan have much presence in the heavier weights in boxing but they've got some real greats in the lower weights and some good kickboxers etc
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 07:18 And the winner is..................

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/4777

Take away the losses and look what you got. How he ever got title shots is beyond me.
His wins were as padded as padded can get. No question there. But Bean could go rounds in losing efforts with the top guys which is more than we can say for most guys with padded records.
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joshj909 wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 16:53
brilo33 wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 16:44
Bandog wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 16:39 If you count the first 30 fights of anyone's career with at least that many fights, Canelo is #1 for padding his record.
bit harsh i think he beat up the martinez brothers a few times and the Hernandez brothers and the Vazquez brothers he bury those cockroaches!
He was also 20-0 by the time he was 18. Nobody has faced world level savages in the pro ranks at 17.
Agree in most cases - but there are exceptions, e.g. Wilfred Benitez's WBA light-welter title win over Antonio Cervantes.
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Theoson wrote: 11 Mar 2023, 14:43
IRONFIST wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 10:21
sibbo wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 08:49Buck Smith
The Buck Smith who beat old Kirkland Laing?
Just out of curiousity what would have been more beneficial to someone like Buck Smith. Fighting and - occasionally losing - to someone at least people have heard of or "boxers" who make their debut against the boxer in question and never box again ?
Buck's record worked rather differently, and was a splendid creation. Jim Brady's book "Boxing Confidential" explains it all - in short, there were a number of fighters who adopted various aliases when fighting each other (having often all travelled in the same car to the show) to create large winning records and use them to gain more major fights.
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At one point he went on a winning run of just over 100 fights, with a couple of no contests.
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sibbo wrote: 11 Jun 2023, 14:41 At one point he went on a winning run of just over 100 fights, with a couple of no contests.
Yes, that's what the record says. But the book explains the circumstances in which many of those "fights" took place. :OhYes:
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adislav123 wrote: 06 Jun 2023, 15:57
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 07:18 And the winner is..................

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/4777

Take away the losses and look what you got. How he ever got title shots is beyond me.
that's absolutely bizarre! there must've been 100 heavyweights more deserving of a title shot than he was when he faced holyfield.

could it be he was a don king protege?
The heavyweight division seems to produce more of these anomalies than the others.

If you can put raw numbers together, like Bean's 31-1, the fact that you have beaten nobody doesn't seem to matter. A similar case was Mark De Mori when he got the Haye fight. De Mori had strung together 30-1-2, beating nobody, but with the right timing and a push where it matters, wallah!
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adislav123 wrote: 06 Jun 2023, 15:57
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 07:18 And the winner is..................

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/4777

Take away the losses and look what you got. How he ever got title shots is beyond me.
that's absolutely bizarre! there must've been 100 heavyweights more deserving of a title shot than he was when he faced holyfield.

could it be he was a don king protege?
According to my boxing ratings, there were 172 more deserving at the time

09/1998 #2 EVANDER HOLYFIELD (21- 3- 0) UD 12 #174 VAUGHN BEAN
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