Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou | TNT PPV - 28 October 2023

[Roco]

FW has somehow managed to change the story to that it is Usyk who is the one ducking and that they tried their best to make the fight and Usyk didn't want it.

Talksport and others don't even bother picking FW up on this and let him get away with it.

Fury is the ducker and he should be stripped. That belt has been tied up long enough.

[Coco]

Boxing is a dangerous enough sport as it is. Pitting a non boxer in the ring with a top pro boxer is shocking.

What if the unthinkable happens and Ngannou gets seriously hurt?

It will be done like PBF v Macgregor

Fury will cover up for a few rounds and wait for the UFC star to tire and then he will be saved on his feet

[Steveh583]

the gypsy fighters do tend to use the sport and not let it use them, fair play i suppose but shit for the fans

[Ezzard]

Maybe Fury isn't a coward after all, and is just chasing the biggest paydays.

Sometimes it's almost like boxing isn't a sport and it's all about business......

The coward talk is childish.

Agree. Fury is no coward. He went to the US 6 times and won 5 and it really should have been all 6. Not many other Brits have done that.

[tony1234]

Easy pay day of any millions for Fury and embarrassing build up of dossers and cowards and the usual talk. Only thing to do is not buy it and let those who want to pay 30 quid or whatever they charge

[Ruthless-RKO]

I honestly don’t think it will. The Usyk fight would have been absolutely massive. This is a joke fight which won’t capture the general attention anywhere near as much once the initial novelty has worn off.

You are wrong. The casual mass doesn't care much about the Eastern-European methodical technician. They care more about the freakshows. Mayweather vs McGregor was no less a joke.

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

The masses maybe.

He was on ITV for the WBSS, then he won that and called out Bellew. He may not have been liked as much from the casuals, as a foreign villain. He won many over. Then came the ‘Derek’ ‘Derreekkk’ fight along with the videos.

Being a HW too, he was plastered all over Sky Sports cus he was gonna be Fury and AJ potential opponent.

[mickey1975]

I honestly don’t think it will. The Usyk fight would have been absolutely massive. This is a joke fight which won’t capture the general attention anywhere near as much once the initial novelty has worn off.

You are wrong. The casual mass doesn't care much about the Eastern-European methodical technician. They care more about the freakshows. Mayweather vs McGregor was no less a joke.

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

[Nightmare Roy]

You are wrong. The casual mass doesn't care much about the Eastern-European methodical technician. They care more about the freakshows. Mayweather vs McGregor was no less a joke.

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

So that's a reason to avoid them?

[Boxerbeetle]

You are wrong. The casual mass doesn't care much about the Eastern-European methodical technician. They care more about the freakshows. Mayweather vs McGregor was no less a joke.

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

I doubt they know Fury or Wilder either tbh. Heavyweight boxing is nowhere near the draw it used to be.

[Nightmare Roy]

FW has somehow managed to change the story to that it is Usyk who is the one ducking and that they tried their best to make the fight and Usyk didn't want it.

Talksport and others don't even bother picking FW up on this and let him get away with it.

Fury is the ducker and he should be stripped. That belt has been tied up long enough.

Just look at the comments though, 99% say he's talking BS

[MasterG]

Fury chose money instead of legacy. Everyone here will sh1t on him for this, but the bout will gather more attention than the potential one against Usyk.

True, but I think his legacy and character will take another hit after the Ngannou fight: once the people gullible enough to pay for it have turned in, and realised it was a total mismatch, more questions will be asked why Fury isn't fighting his main competitor.

He will be a very rich man but will also go down as one of the biggest bottle jobs in boxing history. And I think that will haunt him in retirement.

This is massive amount of cowardice on display here by a lot of people. Avoiding ones biggest rival is rum, but putting a non boxer with zero professional boxing fights in with a Heavyweight Champion is diabolical.

Do you really think it will haunt him in retirement? When travellers rip people off with shit tarmac drive jobs? Running a mock a Appleby Horse Festival? Sunday afternoon scraps in layby in York? Selling heather from the NYM for a quid a go and giving scam readings in the streets? Shop lifting from Sainsbury in Bretton, Peterborough, the worse rated shoplifting supermarket in the UK?

I'm not sure that statement is correct

[jamesmcdonnell]

You are wrong. The casual mass doesn't care much about the Eastern-European methodical technician. They care more about the freakshows. Mayweather vs McGregor was no less a joke.

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

Most yanks dont even know who wilder is.

[mickey1975]

Yeah but the masses know Usyk via the AJ fights (not to mention Fury’s constant videos about him before completely bottling it ) whereas MMA is still relatively niche in the U.K. at least. Globally you might well be correct, although Mayweather and McGregor were both massive box office stars in their own right so not sure that’s a fair comparison.

The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

Most yanks dont even know who wilder is.

There you go. UFC is pretty big there, though and Tyson has a big mouth.

[MasterG]

The masses in America have no idea who AJ is. Or Usyk.

Most yanks dont even know who wilder is.

There you go. UFC is pretty big there, though and Tyson has a big mouth.

Basketball is big in the US too. Darts and fishing are the biggest sports in the UK. It's fornicating ridiculous that a governing body is happy to allow a fight on sales alone. All the YouTube fighters was the start of the end of a gentleman's sport. This fight is allowing it to go viral. It's a mockery on the likes on Mohammed Ali.

[mickey1975]

Most yanks dont even know who wilder is.

There you go. UFC is pretty big there, though and Tyson has a big mouth.

Basketball is big in the US too. Darts and fishing are the biggest sports in the UK. It's fornicating ridiculous that a governing body is happy to allow a fight on sales alone. All the YouTube fighters was the start of the end of a gentleman's sport. This fight is allowing it to go viral. It's a mockery on the likes on Mohammed Ali.

Ali had a crossover fight!

[handsofstone]

Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

[Ruthless-RKO]

What a joke!

No official challengers?

It’s their fückin job to find challengers!!

[mickey1975]

Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

He still did it. Pete Rademacher challenged Floyd Patterson on his pro debut, too.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

He still did it. Pete Rademacher challenged Floyd Patterson on his pro debut, too.

I’m sure of Fury had a legit boxing match in Spring against ANYONE at least, then there would be less flack..

Now he’s not likely to fight a boxer until at least 2024.

[handsofstone]

Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

He still did it. Pete Rademacher challenged Floyd Patterson on his pro debut, too.

Olympic Gold boxing medalist was Rademacher

[jamesmcdonnell]

Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

He still did it. Pete Rademacher challenged Floyd Patterson on his pro debut, too.

I’m sure of Fury had a legit boxing match in Spring against ANYONE at least, then there would be less flack..

Now he’s not likely to fight a boxer until at least 2024.

Precisely this.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[mickey1975]

Ali had 4 other fights that year as well though including Norton and Young, plus he'd already took on all comers, Fury's beat 2 champions over 7/8 years

He still did it. Pete Rademacher challenged Floyd Patterson on his pro debut, too.

Olympic Gold boxing medalist was Rademacher

I know. It was still his debut!

[mickey1975]

At least he's getting credit for facing the wrecking ball that is Wilder.

[si7dog7]

At least he's getting credit for facing the wrecking ball that is Wilder.

How do you equate this argument Mickey? Pray tell?