Round-by-Round: Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023

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mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 14:28 Someone on Twitter compared Matchrooms handling of Aj to that of their handling of Eubank. Making a lot of money and avoiding the true elite in the division.
Do you agree with them?
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handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:13
watsupdoc87 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:04
mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 14:28 Someone on Twitter compared Matchrooms handling of Aj to that of their handling of Eubank. Making a lot of money and avoiding the true elite in the division.
Eubank had his chance to fight the "elite" and lost to a 1 armed groves in that super 6 thing years back :bag:
Think he means Sr, either way it's bollocks, Wilder and Fury both knocked back back the Joshua fights, that's fact, even Deontay and Tyson acknowledge that, strange there's 3 people on here who just can't and wont
Joshua has turned down 2 Fury fights in the past 9 months. Does your brain fail to recognize this?
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Lol. Triggered
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If Dubois and Joyce both get ironed out in the next few weeks, that will just leave Fury fighting non boxers. That would be a bit of a downer for their TV network.

Meanwhile, AJ is doing his job and taking on Wilder next, by the sounds of it.

Has anyone seen the Netflix trailer for the Fury documentary? Not at all scripted. Nor siree. He definitely ' retired' ( which is why he didn't give up his WBC belt) and it wasn't part of a storyline at all..
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big lennox wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 16:47 If Dubois and Joyce both get ironed out in the next few weeks, that will just leave Fury fighting non boxers. That would be a bit of a downer for their TV network.

Meanwhile, AJ is doing his job and taking on Wilder next, by the sounds of it.

Has anyone seen the Netflix trailer for the Fury documentary? Not at all scripted. Nor siree. He definitely ' retired' ( which is why he didn't give up his WBC belt) and it wasn't part of a storyline at all..
Surely if they get Fury fighting a non boxer that will do huge viewing figures?
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mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:24
handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:13
watsupdoc87 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:04

Eubank had his chance to fight the "elite" and lost to a 1 armed groves in that super 6 thing years back :bag:
Think he means Sr, either way it's bollocks, Wilder and Fury both knocked back back the Joshua fights, that's fact, even Deontay and Tyson acknowledge that, strange there's 3 people on here who just can't and wont
Terry from Highfield Boxing retweeted it, and he's a big AJ fan. Its a good comparison.
Never heard of him or Highfield boxing, either way my post clearly debunks it so it's pretty far from a good comparison
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BigDoofus wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 16:15
handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:13
watsupdoc87 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:04

Eubank had his chance to fight the "elite" and lost to a 1 armed groves in that super 6 thing years back :bag:
Think he means Sr, either way it's bollocks, Wilder and Fury both knocked back back the Joshua fights, that's fact, even Deontay and Tyson acknowledge that, strange there's 3 people on here who just can't and wont
Joshua has turned down 2 Fury fights in the past 9 months. Does your brain fail to recognize this?
That's hearsay, I only deal with facts, AJ had a plan, like Usyk he's too shrewd to fall for any of Fury's pish, like most people really except the simps
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handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:28
mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:24
handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:13

Think he means Sr, either way it's bollocks, Wilder and Fury both knocked back back the Joshua fights, that's fact, even Deontay and Tyson acknowledge that, strange there's 3 people on here who just can't and wont
Terry from Highfield Boxing retweeted it, and he's a big AJ fan. Its a good comparison.
Never heard of him or Highfield boxing, either way my post clearly debunks it so it's pretty far from a good comparison
I think we have established that's YOUR opinion. Others think differently. I'm sure there's quotes from all sides proving all things... I think it's an excellent comparison. Hey, Eubank had an excellent career.
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handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:29
BigDoofus wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 16:15
handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:13

Think he means Sr, either way it's bollocks, Wilder and Fury both knocked back back the Joshua fights, that's fact, even Deontay and Tyson acknowledge that, strange there's 3 people on here who just can't and wont
Joshua has turned down 2 Fury fights in the past 9 months. Does your brain fail to recognize this?
That's hearsay, I only deal with facts, AJ had a plan, like Usyk he's too shrewd to fall for any of Fury's pish, like most people really except the simps
That's right. AJ would have found that he had accepted 40% of thin air and, instead, has earnt some millions beating Helenius and will earn £47m to box Wilder and not have his time wasted. Sensible move by AJ. Ditto Uysk - from Uysk's perspective, he has beaten Fury without having to box him.
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mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 14:28 Someone on Twitter compared Matchrooms handling of Aj to that of their handling of Eubank. Making a lot of money and avoiding the true elite in the division.
I would say going by that scenario ,hes 1 up on Fury , decent opposition
Fury ....... Klitchko ,,,Wilder

Aj.......Klitchko... Usyk.....Ruiz
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big lennox wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 09:25
jwfg wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 08:42
BigDoofus wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 08:37
*If you ignore the fact that he has avoided Wilder for 7 years and has turned down Fury twice in the past 9 months.
Hi Mickey. :wave:
BigDoofus and Quiggeyg all say the same things that Dev Sahni says on twitter and in interviews 🤷‍♂️ e.g. AJ is terrible ( despite Olympic Gold medal success and winning multiple titles) and Fury vs an OAP, non boxer, is a legitimate fight etc etc. Yawn.
big liar.
Please show evidence of where I praised the next Fury fight.
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big lennox wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:46
handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:29
BigDoofus wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 16:15
Joshua has turned down 2 Fury fights in the past 9 months. Does your brain fail to recognize this?
That's hearsay, I only deal with facts, AJ had a plan, like Usyk he's too shrewd to fall for any of Fury's pish, like most people really except the simps
That's right. AJ would have found that he had accepted 40% of thin air and, instead, has earnt some millions beating Helenius and will earn £47m to box Wilder and not have his time wasted. Sensible move by AJ. Ditto Uysk - from Uysk's perspective, he has beaten Fury without having to box him.
He’s earned millions fighting Franklin and Helenius and avoiding the WBC title.
He’s avoided Wilder for 7 years. Perhaps he will need another fight “first”.
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mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:38
handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:28
mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:24
Terry from Highfield Boxing retweeted it, and he's a big AJ fan. Its a good comparison.
Never heard of him or Highfield boxing, either way my post clearly debunks it so it's pretty far from a good comparison
I think we have established that's YOUR opinion. Others think differently. I'm sure there's quotes from all sides proving all things... I think it's an excellent comparison. Hey, Eubank had an excellent career.
It's not an opinion that Wilder tweeted that he turned down the AJ fight to give Fury a rematch and it's not an opinion that Fury put out a video to say the Joshua fight was on then walked away to fight Wilder a third time, I know you adore all things traveller related but you must know that your getting the piss ripped out of you along with the other gullible fools Fury has on a string?

Also are you just gonna forget Joshua fought Usyk twice??
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handsofstone wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 02:58
mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:38
handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:28

Never heard of him or Highfield boxing, either way my post clearly debunks it so it's pretty far from a good comparison
I think we have established that's YOUR opinion. Others think differently. I'm sure there's quotes from all sides proving all things... I think it's an excellent comparison. Hey, Eubank had an excellent career.
It's not an opinion that Wilder tweeted that he turned down the AJ fight to give Fury a rematch and it's not an opinion that Fury put out a video to say the Joshua fight was on then walked away to fight Wilder a third time, I know you adore all things traveller related but you must know that your getting the piss ripped out of you along with the other gullible fools Fury has on a string?

Also are you just gonna forget Joshua fought Usyk twice??
Again ignoring the court arbitration granting Wilder the 3rd fight and again ignoring that Joshua has turned down Fury twice to fight Franklin and Helenius.
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BigDoofus wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 02:30
big lennox wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 09:25
jwfg wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 08:42

Hi Mickey. :wave:
BigDoofus and Quiggeyg all say the same things that Dev Sahni says on twitter and in interviews 🤷‍♂️ e.g. AJ is terrible ( despite Olympic Gold medal success and winning multiple titles) and Fury vs an OAP, non boxer, is a legitimate fight etc etc. Yawn.
big liar.
Please show evidence of where I praised the next Fury fight.
I'll answer your questions as many times as you answer my questions..

Are you now saying that Fury vs Ngannou is not a legitimate fight?
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handsofstone wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 02:58
mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:38
handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:28

Never heard of him or Highfield boxing, either way my post clearly debunks it so it's pretty far from a good comparison
I think we have established that's YOUR opinion. Others think differently. I'm sure there's quotes from all sides proving all things... I think it's an excellent comparison. Hey, Eubank had an excellent career.
It's not an opinion that Wilder tweeted that he turned down the AJ fight to give Fury a rematch and it's not an opinion that Fury put out a video to say the Joshua fight was on then walked away to fight Wilder a third time, I know you adore all things traveller related but you must know that your getting the piss ripped out of you along with the other gullible fools Fury has on a string?

Also are you just gonna forget Joshua fought Usyk twice??
Ohhhhh the old traveller card??? Haven't heard that one for a while. I've heard all sides and at different points quotes to back up each of their stories. I firmly believe, like Doofus, if Hearn wanted him in with Wilder over the past 7 years, it would have happened. Isn't it common knowledge that, after Wilder smashed Audley, Barry Hearn said "keep him away from AJ"? Wise move.
Of course I haven't forgot he fought Usyk, but let's not forget he was a big favourite for that fight. Margaret, Boxerbeetle, etc thought that some of us were mad giving Usyk a chance....
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big lennox wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 03:20
BigDoofus wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 02:30
big lennox wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 09:25

BigDoofus and Quiggeyg all say the same things that Dev Sahni says on twitter and in interviews 🤷‍♂️ e.g. AJ is terrible ( despite Olympic Gold medal success and winning multiple titles) and Fury vs an OAP, non boxer, is a legitimate fight etc etc. Yawn.
big liar.
Please show evidence of where I praised the next Fury fight.
I'll answer your questions as many times as you answer my questions..

Are you now saying that Fury vs Ngannou is not a legitimate fight?
It's easy to make lies up typing away. Why don't you be a man and apologise, Tom?
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BigDoofus wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 03:45
big lennox wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 03:20
BigDoofus wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 02:30

big liar.
Please show evidence of where I praised the next Fury fight.
I'll answer your questions as many times as you answer my questions..

Are you now saying that Fury vs Ngannou is not a legitimate fight?
It's easy to make lies up typing away. Why don't you be a man and apologise, Tom?
Genuine question Doofy, what are your opinions of Fury fighting someone who's never had a professional boxing fight in his life before? Do you consider it a legitimate match up?
You've done the AJ deflection tactic to death, so give it a go with a direct answer :TU:
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mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 09:11 I will give AJ credit if he faces Wilder. I can't think of any reason, other than cash, why they would let him box him. It really is a knockover job. This AJ just doesn't have anywhere near the mentality to beat him. He will be a nervous wreck at the first press conference.
I think Wilder is shot and will get hammered, but it's a good line. Made me laugh :clap: :clap:
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BigDoofus wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 16:15
handsofstone wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:13
watsupdoc87 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 15:04

Eubank had his chance to fight the "elite" and lost to a 1 armed groves in that super 6 thing years back :bag:
Think he means Sr, either way it's bollocks, Wilder and Fury both knocked back back the Joshua fights, that's fact, even Deontay and Tyson acknowledge that, strange there's 3 people on here who just can't and wont
Joshua has turned down 2 Fury fights in the past 9 months. Does your brain fail to recognize this?
Did you know that all boxers turn down offers of fights at some point in their career? Fury being one of them.
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mickey1975 wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 03:43
handsofstone wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 02:58
mickey1975 wrote: 13 Aug 2023, 17:38
I think we have established that's YOUR opinion. Others think differently. I'm sure there's quotes from all sides proving all things... I think it's an excellent comparison. Hey, Eubank had an excellent career.
It's not an opinion that Wilder tweeted that he turned down the AJ fight to give Fury a rematch and it's not an opinion that Fury put out a video to say the Joshua fight was on then walked away to fight Wilder a third time, I know you adore all things traveller related but you must know that your getting the piss ripped out of you along with the other gullible fools Fury has on a string?

Also are you just gonna forget Joshua fought Usyk twice??
Ohhhhh the old traveller card??? Haven't heard that one for a while. I've heard all sides and at different points quotes to back up each of their stories. I firmly believe, like Doofus, if Hearn wanted him in with Wilder over the past 7 years, it would have happened. Isn't it common knowledge that, after Wilder smashed Audley, Barry Hearn said "keep him away from AJ"? Wise move.
Of course I haven't forgot he fought Usyk, but let's not forget he was a big favourite for that fight. Margaret, Boxerbeetle, etc thought that some of us were mad giving Usyk a chance....
What did I predict? Genuinely have no idea.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 05:58
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 03:43
handsofstone wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 02:58
It's not an opinion that Wilder tweeted that he turned down the AJ fight to give Fury a rematch and it's not an opinion that Fury put out a video to say the Joshua fight was on then walked away to fight Wilder a third time, I know you adore all things traveller related but you must know that your getting the piss ripped out of you along with the other gullible fools Fury has on a string?

Also are you just gonna forget Joshua fought Usyk twice??
Ohhhhh the old traveller card??? Haven't heard that one for a while. I've heard all sides and at different points quotes to back up each of their stories. I firmly believe, like Doofus, if Hearn wanted him in with Wilder over the past 7 years, it would have happened. Isn't it common knowledge that, after Wilder smashed Audley, Barry Hearn said "keep him away from AJ"? Wise move.
Of course I haven't forgot he fought Usyk, but let's not forget he was a big favourite for that fight. Margaret, Boxerbeetle, etc thought that some of us were mad giving Usyk a chance....
What did I predict? Genuinely have no idea.
It's genuinely sad. MinicabsMickey, a grown man, simping for a multi-millionaire bottle job who doesn't even know who Mickey is and wouldn't care less if he did.
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Teddy's Toupee wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 06:23
Boxerbeetle wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 05:58
mickey1975 wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 03:43
Ohhhhh the old traveller card??? Haven't heard that one for a while. I've heard all sides and at different points quotes to back up each of their stories. I firmly believe, like Doofus, if Hearn wanted him in with Wilder over the past 7 years, it would have happened. Isn't it common knowledge that, after Wilder smashed Audley, Barry Hearn said "keep him away from AJ"? Wise move.
Of course I haven't forgot he fought Usyk, but let's not forget he was a big favourite for that fight. Margaret, Boxerbeetle, etc thought that some of us were mad giving Usyk a chance....
What did I predict? Genuinely have no idea.
It's genuinely sad. MinicabsMickey, a grown man, simping for a multi-millionaire bottle job who doesn't even know who Mickey is and wouldn't care less if he did.
When's the Misfits fight between you and mickey?
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jwfg wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 06:30
Teddy's Toupee wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 06:23
Boxerbeetle wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 05:58

What did I predict? Genuinely have no idea.
It's genuinely sad. MinicabsMickey, a grown man, simping for a multi-millionaire bottle job who doesn't even know who Mickey is and wouldn't care less if he did.
When's the Misfits fight between you and mickey?
Minicabs bottled my offer of a move around after he said he'd spar me anytime, anywhere. At least that's one thing he has in common with Luke Partridge(being a bottler).
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Teddy's Toupee wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 06:50
jwfg wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 06:30
Teddy's Toupee wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 06:23
It's genuinely sad. MinicabsMickey, a grown man, simping for a multi-millionaire bottle job who doesn't even know who Mickey is and wouldn't care less if he did.
When's the Misfits fight between you and mickey?
Minicabs bottled my offer of a move around after he said he'd spar me anytime, anywhere. At least that's one thing he has in common with Luke Partridge(being a bottler).
I'm sure I've read in the past that mickey can handle himself. Dunno why this hasn't happened. Did you demand a rematch clause or tell he had to decide by Wednesday or the fight was off?
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