Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - Who wins?

[big lennox]

AJ did something really weird and amateurish during the fight on two ocassions. He held both hands out in front to push Helenius back. It reminded me a bit of Rahman's hand positions when KO'd by Lewis. If he tries something like that with Wilder, he'll get clocked.

Good spot, and, yes, the Lewis- Rahman rematch came to mind (Rahman did that a few times, if I recall correctly).

I think Joshua will need to hurt Wilder early and make him drain his energy levels quickly. But, if he gets stuck in two minds, he will get clocked I would imagine.

I really hope this fight happens. Its a toss of the coin affair which won't go to points.

[cormack]

my prediction is that we keep bitching at each other while this fight fails to materialize
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yes for about the next 5 months or so

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

- - Deyonce already turned down 2 career purses to fight AJ as did the Gypsy Princess, so he’s already 2-0 vs both and really don’t need them as they’ll just back out as before costing extra time and expense.

Rather see AJ vs Hrgovic or Joyce/Zhang winner to let the rest experience an AJ payday that likely leads to a vacant title shot.

AJ 33 now having made stupendous $$$. Might as well get out on a high note knowing he did his best to make boxing the sport of Kings in a dishonest sport notorious for horrendous exploitation of boxers.

He could open the finest gym in London or wherever to cultivate ama/pros to make a lasting impact.

Think about it AJ: No more vapid boxing expert wannabees using you as their dartboard.

[The Gratest]

Broughton knows his boxing

[BigDoofus]

my prediction is that we keep bitching at each other while this fight fails to materialize

Amen brother.

[BigDoofus]

- - Deyonce already turned down 2 career purses to fight AJ as did the Gypsy Princess, so he’s already 2-0 vs both and really don’t need them as they’ll just back out as before costing extra time and expense.

Rather see AJ vs Hrgovic or Joyce/Zhang winner to let the rest experience an AJ payday that likely leads to a vacant title shot.

AJ 33 now having made stupendous $$$. Might as well get out on a high note knowing he did his best to make boxing the sport of Kings in a dishonest sport notorious for horrendous exploitation of boxers.

He could open the finest gym in London or wherever to cultivate ama/pros to make a lasting impact.

Think about it AJ: No more vapid boxing expert wannabees using you as their dartboard.

In the real world Joshua has managed to avoid Wilder for 7 years and has ducked Fury twice in the past 9 months.

[The Gratest]

- - Deyonce already turned down 2 career purses to fight AJ as did the Gypsy Princess, so he’s already 2-0 vs both and really don’t need them as they’ll just back out as before costing extra time and expense.

Rather see AJ vs Hrgovic or Joyce/Zhang winner to let the rest experience an AJ payday that likely leads to a vacant title shot.

AJ 33 now having made stupendous $$$. Might as well get out on a high note knowing he did his best to make boxing the sport of Kings in a dishonest sport notorious for horrendous exploitation of boxers.

He could open the finest gym in London or wherever to cultivate ama/pros to make a lasting impact.

Think about it AJ: No more vapid boxing expert wannabees using you as their dartboard.

In the real world Joshua has managed to avoid Wilder for 7 years and has ducked Fury twice in the past 9 months.

Haha, triggered.
I notice this is your default comeback whenever you panic and begin to feel uncomfortable. It's like a desperate call for the other two to join in and rescue you.
Keep it up BigDucky

[Ruthless-RKO]

I think we can all agree.. this ain’t going the distance.

[margaret thatcher]

i'd agree it will almost surely be a ko if it happens

BUT

wilder is way more stand offish than people seem to think and joshua is obviously boxing a lot more cautious these days. could be a lot of rounds of posturing.

[jwfg]

I really don’t belive the Wilder fight will happen. Hearn knows he’s cashing Joshua out if it does. Though what options does Joshua have?????

I'm sorry, but you don't know what the fvck you're talking about.

[JamesPhilips]

I really don’t belive the Wilder fight will happen. Hearn knows he’s cashing Joshua out if it does. Though what options does Joshua have?????

I'm sorry, but you don't know what the fvck you're talking about.

Lol then please put me straight? Will the fight happen? What are Hearn’s plans for Joshua? Do you think the Joshua of today will win vs Wilder?

[DrDuke]

The poll starts with Wilder by KO. Gotta agree.

[jwfg]

I really don’t belive the Wilder fight will happen. Hearn knows he’s cashing Joshua out if it does. Though what options does Joshua have?????

I'm sorry, but you don't know what the fvck you're talking about.

Lol then please put me straight? Will the fight happen? What are Hearn’s plans for Joshua? Do you think the Joshua of today will win vs Wilder?

If the fight happens and I think it will, then Hearn and AJ are taking the fight because they 100% think Joshua will win. I used to swap the odd email with Eddie (although not anymore) and if there's one thing he definitely does, that's back his fighters - sometimes to a fault.

According to BoxRec, AJ is currently the third ranked heavyweight in the world with wins over the #4 and #5. How on earth is him fighting the guy at #7 cashing out?

If for whatever reason the Wilder fight happens, then Ed will schedule Joshua another fight(s). it's as simple as that. Then if the Wilder still doesn't happen, they will look to fight Fury, but Tyson needs to stop going on YouTube and saying (and I'm paraphrasing) 'I'm the top man and you have to sign by tomorrow at 6pm or it ain't happening'. The HUGE fights aren't made quickly, so Fury needs to let the negotiations take there course. I suppose that will depend on how bad he wants it. If Fury really wanted to fight AJ or Usyk, he could have made those fights happen.

Do I think Joshua beats Wilder? Yes, the new measured version of AJ, who doesn't look to bomb everyone out, will wait patiently to land his own rocket and as long as that doesn't happen in the last ten seconds of the round, Wilder's done.

[JamesPhilips]

I'm sorry, but you don't know what the fvck you're talking about.

Lol then please put me straight? Will the fight happen? What are Hearn’s plans for Joshua? Do you think the Joshua of today will win vs Wilder?

If the fight happens and I think it will, then Hearn and AJ are taking the fight because they 100% think Joshua will win. I used to swap the odd email with Eddie (although not anymore) and if there's one thing he definitely does, that's back his fighters - sometimes to a fault.

According to BoxRec, AJ is currently the third ranked heavyweight in the world with wins over the #4 and #5. How on earth is him fighting the guy at #7 cashing out?

If for whatever reason the Wilder fight happens, then Ed will schedule Joshua another fight(s). it's as simple as that. Then if the Wilder still doesn't happen, they will look to fight Fury, but Tyson needs to stop going on YouTube and saying (and I'm paraphrasing) 'I'm the top man and you have to sign by tomorrow at 6pm or it ain't happening'. The HUGE fights aren't made quickly, so Fury needs to let the negotiations take there course. I suppose that will depend on how bad he wants it. If Fury really wanted to fight AJ or Usyk, he could have made those fights happen.

Do I think Joshua beats Wilder? Yes, the new measured version of AJ, who doesn't look to bomb everyone out, will wait patiently to land his own rocket and as long as that doesn't happen in the last ten seconds of the round, Wilder's done.

Thanks. Well it’s confirmed you are Frank smith.

[margaret thatcher]

wilder has heart for sure, but why do people act like getting floored 5x by fury shows a good chin? chisora took loads from fury and didnt go down once. otter wallin was never even hurt.

[BigDoofus]

If the fight happens and I think it will, then Hearn and AJ are taking the fight because they 100% think Joshua will win. I used to swap the odd email with Eddie (although not anymore) and if there's one thing he definitely does, that's back his fighters - sometimes to a fault.

According to BoxRec, AJ is currently the third ranked heavyweight in the world with wins over the #4 and #5. How on earth is him fighting the guy at #7 cashing out?

If for whatever reason the Wilder fight happens, then Ed will schedule Joshua another fight(s). it's as simple as that. Then if the Wilder still doesn't happen, they will look to fight Fury, but Tyson needs to stop going on YouTube and saying (and I'm paraphrasing) 'I'm the top man and you have to sign by tomorrow at 6pm or it ain't happening'. The HUGE fights aren't made quickly, so Fury needs to let the negotiations take there course. I suppose that will depend on how bad he wants it. If Fury really wanted to fight AJ or Usyk, he could have made those fights happen.

Do I think Joshua beats Wilder? Yes, the new measured version of AJ, who doesn't look to bomb everyone out, will wait patiently to land his own rocket and as long as that doesn't happen in the last ten seconds of the round, Wilder's done.

Fury kept his mouth shut recently but Joshua’s team told GW they didn’t want the fight. He wanted to fight Whyte rather than the WBC champion.

[BigDoofus]

. I used to swap the odd email with Eddie (although not anymore) and if there's one thing he definitely does, that's back his fighters - sometimes to a fault.

Didn’t he pull O’Hara Davies from a card and dropped him for a tweet about a newspaper?

[jwfg]

Lol then please put me straight? Will the fight happen? What are Hearn’s plans for Joshua? Do you think the Joshua of today will win vs Wilder?

If the fight happens and I think it will, then Hearn and AJ are taking the fight because they 100% think Joshua will win. I used to swap the odd email with Eddie (although not anymore) and if there's one thing he definitely does, that's back his fighters - sometimes to a fault.

According to BoxRec, AJ is currently the third ranked heavyweight in the world with wins over the #4 and #5. How on earth is him fighting the guy at #7 cashing out?

If for whatever reason the Wilder fight happens, then Ed will schedule Joshua another fight(s). it's as simple as that. Then if the Wilder still doesn't happen, they will look to fight Fury, but Tyson needs to stop going on YouTube and saying (and I'm paraphrasing) 'I'm the top man and you have to sign by tomorrow at 6pm or it ain't happening'. The HUGE fights aren't made quickly, so Fury needs to let the negotiations take there course. I suppose that will depend on how bad he wants it. If Fury really wanted to fight AJ or Usyk, he could have made those fights happen.

Do I think Joshua beats Wilder? Yes, the new measured version of AJ, who doesn't look to bomb everyone out, will wait patiently to land his own rocket and as long as that doesn't happen in the last ten seconds of the round, Wilder's done.

Thanks. Well it’s confirmed you are Frank smith.

I wish, he has a much better hair line than me.

You honestly think Joshua fighting Wilder is somehow a cashout?

[The Gratest]

If the fight happens and I think it will, then Hearn and AJ are taking the fight because they 100% think Joshua will win. I used to swap the odd email with Eddie (although not anymore) and if there's one thing he definitely does, that's back his fighters - sometimes to a fault.

According to BoxRec, AJ is currently the third ranked heavyweight in the world with wins over the #4 and #5. How on earth is him fighting the guy at #7 cashing out?

If for whatever reason the Wilder fight happens, then Ed will schedule Joshua another fight(s). it's as simple as that. Then if the Wilder still doesn't happen, they will look to fight Fury, but Tyson needs to stop going on YouTube and saying (and I'm paraphrasing) 'I'm the top man and you have to sign by tomorrow at 6pm or it ain't happening'. The HUGE fights aren't made quickly, so Fury needs to let the negotiations take there course. I suppose that will depend on how bad he wants it. If Fury really wanted to fight AJ or Usyk, he could have made those fights happen.

Do I think Joshua beats Wilder? Yes, the new measured version of AJ, who doesn't look to bomb everyone out, will wait patiently to land his own rocket and as long as that doesn't happen in the last ten seconds of the round, Wilder's done.

Fury kept his mouth shut recently but Joshua’s team told GW they didn’t want the fight. He wanted to fight Whyte rather than the WBC champion.

What's your opinion on Fury fighting a guy with zero professional boxing fights? Do you consider it a legitimate fight against a worthy opponent?
Are you too scared to offer a truthful opinion Doofy?

[jwfg]

If the fight happens and I think it will, then Hearn and AJ are taking the fight because they 100% think Joshua will win. I used to swap the odd email with Eddie (although not anymore) and if there's one thing he definitely does, that's back his fighters - sometimes to a fault.

According to BoxRec, AJ is currently the third ranked heavyweight in the world with wins over the #4 and #5. How on earth is him fighting the guy at #7 cashing out?

If for whatever reason the Wilder fight happens, then Ed will schedule Joshua another fight(s). it's as simple as that. Then if the Wilder still doesn't happen, they will look to fight Fury, but Tyson needs to stop going on YouTube and saying (and I'm paraphrasing) 'I'm the top man and you have to sign by tomorrow at 6pm or it ain't happening'. The HUGE fights aren't made quickly, so Fury needs to let the negotiations take there course. I suppose that will depend on how bad he wants it. If Fury really wanted to fight AJ or Usyk, he could have made those fights happen.

Do I think Joshua beats Wilder? Yes, the new measured version of AJ, who doesn't look to bomb everyone out, will wait patiently to land his own rocket and as long as that doesn't happen in the last ten seconds of the round, Wilder's done.

Fury kept his mouth shut recently but Joshua’s team told GW they didn’t want the fight. He wanted to fight Whyte rather than the WBC champion.

The two sides couldn't agree terms that's all. It's no big deal. Fights only happen if both sides agree. It's quite simple really. Usyk wanted a rematch clause, Fury wouldn't give him one. They didn't agree, so the fight didn't happen. Fury agreed a rematch clause with a 36 year old debutant and that fight happened.

[JamesPhilips]

If the fight happens and I think it will, then Hearn and AJ are taking the fight because they 100% think Joshua will win. I used to swap the odd email with Eddie (although not anymore) and if there's one thing he definitely does, that's back his fighters - sometimes to a fault.

According to BoxRec, AJ is currently the third ranked heavyweight in the world with wins over the #4 and #5. How on earth is him fighting the guy at #7 cashing out?

If for whatever reason the Wilder fight happens, then Ed will schedule Joshua another fight(s). it's as simple as that. Then if the Wilder still doesn't happen, they will look to fight Fury, but Tyson needs to stop going on YouTube and saying (and I'm paraphrasing) 'I'm the top man and you have to sign by tomorrow at 6pm or it ain't happening'. The HUGE fights aren't made quickly, so Fury needs to let the negotiations take there course. I suppose that will depend on how bad he wants it. If Fury really wanted to fight AJ or Usyk, he could have made those fights happen.

Do I think Joshua beats Wilder? Yes, the new measured version of AJ, who doesn't look to bomb everyone out, will wait patiently to land his own rocket and as long as that doesn't happen in the last ten seconds of the round, Wilder's done.

Thanks. Well it’s confirmed you are Frank smith.

I wish, he has a much better hair line than me.

You honestly think Joshua fighting Wilder is somehow a cashout?

Yes. It’s a massive risk. If Joshua gets stretched out he’s finished. It’s not like a points loss to Usyk.

[forcefraser]

Imagine what big Zhang would do to a gunshy Joshua.

He'd put a proper shellacking on him. Too big, too strong, too tough.

[BigDoofus]

If the fight happens and I think it will, then Hearn and AJ are taking the fight because they 100% think Joshua will win. I used to swap the odd email with Eddie (although not anymore) and if there's one thing he definitely does, that's back his fighters - sometimes to a fault.

According to BoxRec, AJ is currently the third ranked heavyweight in the world with wins over the #4 and #5. How on earth is him fighting the guy at #7 cashing out?

If for whatever reason the Wilder fight happens, then Ed will schedule Joshua another fight(s). it's as simple as that. Then if the Wilder still doesn't happen, they will look to fight Fury, but Tyson needs to stop going on YouTube and saying (and I'm paraphrasing) 'I'm the top man and you have to sign by tomorrow at 6pm or it ain't happening'. The HUGE fights aren't made quickly, so Fury needs to let the negotiations take there course. I suppose that will depend on how bad he wants it. If Fury really wanted to fight AJ or Usyk, he could have made those fights happen.

Do I think Joshua beats Wilder? Yes, the new measured version of AJ, who doesn't look to bomb everyone out, will wait patiently to land his own rocket and as long as that doesn't happen in the last ten seconds of the round, Wilder's done.

Fury kept his mouth shut recently but Joshua’s team told GW they didn’t want the fight. He wanted to fight Whyte rather than the WBC champion.

The two sides couldn't agree terms that's all. It's no big deal. Fights only happen if both sides agree. It's quite simple really. Usyk wanted a rematch clause, Fury wouldn't give him one. They didn't agree, so the fight didn't happen. Fury agreed a rematch clause with a 36 year old debutant and that fight happened.

Usyk stopped negotiating in the belief that he will get more money for fighting Fury in Saudi. He was never getting 70% of a Fury purse split.

[Flump]

Broughton knows his boxing

No he doesn't

[Redback Rasta]

The poll results here so far are pretty reflective of how people, including the critics, see this one playing out.