Ben Shalom

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Giving a score out of 10 … how has Ben Shalom done as a promoter?

Poll ended at 25 Jul 2023, 12:06

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Total votes: 58

Glass Joe
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Re: Ben Shalom

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Bad night for Boxxer i think they made Eubank Benn more massive then before. No PPV fighter i think in their stable
Last edited by Glass Joe on 03 Sep 2023, 06:18, edited 1 time in total.
Ricky
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by Ricky »

AI would do a better job
rd350lc
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by rd350lc »

I thought it was a good night of boxing on the whole .
Competition to the others can only be good .
gregregegg
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by gregregegg »

Is Eubank with boxxer or wasserman? Feel like theres a few paydays available for him. Smith trillogy, Benn, Brook, any actualy belt holder....
rd350lc
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Re: Ben Shalom

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gregregegg wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 07:48 Is Eubank with boxxer or wasserman? Feel like theres a few paydays available for him. Smith trillogy, Benn, Brook, any actualy belt holder....
Surely he won't do that silly weight draining bollox again with Con-a-Benn .
Teddy's Toupee
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by Teddy's Toupee »

Ricky wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 06:17 AI would do a better job
Artificial Intelligence?
Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

A fight with Brook will surely be on Sky Sports.

CEJ is linked with them and Brook is unattached.
rd350lc
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Re: Ben Shalom

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 08:23 A fight with Brook will surely be on Sky Sports.

CEJ is linked with them and Brook is unattached.
Another load of nonsense, Brook a retired welterweight.
peter barlow
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by peter barlow »

Surely a candidate for worst PPV of all time. I wouldn't bother dissecting the undercard it was bad enough but even the main event was a farce with one man refusing to throw or engage most likely injured.

Time for Sky to leave Boxing and stop conning fans these PPVs and shows are a disgrace.
Spud
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Post by Spud »

I no longer pay for PPV, because Sky refuse to throw fights out when they are clearly not good enough for a PPV card.

I am sorry to say boxing on sky tv is in my view a sorry state. The worst its been.

Whilst I acknowledge Shalom is the promoter, I firmly believe its up to Sky to ensure the quality of bouts is up to standard.
Nightmare Roy
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by Nightmare Roy »

rd350lc wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 07:55
gregregegg wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 07:48 Is Eubank with boxxer or wasserman? Feel like theres a few paydays available for him. Smith trillogy, Benn, Brook, any actualy belt holder....
Surely he won't do that silly weight draining bollox again with Con-a-Benn .
Nah he won't, Jnr calls the shots now.
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Re: Ben Shalom

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gregregegg wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 07:48 Is Eubank with boxxer or wasserman? Feel like theres a few paydays available for him. Smith trillogy, Benn, Brook, any actualy belt holder....
He's with Wasserman mate, has been with Sauerlands since 2017 iirc and now Wasserman not it's bought them.
Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

642368 wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 15:34
gregregegg wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 07:48 Is Eubank with boxxer or wasserman? Feel like theres a few paydays available for him. Smith trillogy, Benn, Brook, any actualy belt holder....
He's with Wasserman mate, has been with Sauerlands since 2017 iirc and now Wasserman not it's bought them.
Yeh. Wasserman have the deal with CH5 for their stable. Eubank was also the exception. Majority of his fights have been on Sky Sports. They just work with Boxxer for that.
maverick23
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Re: Ben Shalom

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gregregegg wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 07:48 Is Eubank with boxxer or wasserman? Feel like theres a few paydays available for him. Smith trillogy, Benn, Brook, any actualy belt holder....
He’s with Wasserman but doesn’t have a TV deal so could fight on any network.
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Re: Ben Shalom

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Glass Joe wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 06:08 Bad night for Boxxer i think they made Eubank Benn more massive then before. No PPV fighter i think in their stable
I bought the PPV (wasn’t planning on it but ended up having the house to myself). It was one of those that was better on paper than in reality.

It wasn’t an improved Dave Allen as we’d been hoping for and the Azim fight didn’t catch fire.

I enjoyed the Cullen fight (always do) but the Mayer fight was a bit of a waste of time on a Sky sports PPV.

Then the main wasn’t competitive.

Some of it isn’t Boxxer’s fault (the Allen/Azim fights) and I get they did they Mayer fight to build a Jonas fight and it was probably free and they wouldn’t have known the main was going to be so one sided.

I have more issue with the 13 weeks between U.K. boxing shows on regular Sky sports and then coming back with a NextGen. I’d be surprised if there’s ever been a gap as long (except in covid).
Spud
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by Spud »

maverick23 wrote: 04 Sep 2023, 01:59
gregregegg wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 07:48 Is Eubank with boxxer or wasserman? Feel like theres a few paydays available for him. Smith trillogy, Benn, Brook, any actualy belt holder....
He’s with Wasserman but doesn’t have a TV deal so could fight on any network.
Both Smith & Eubank are now out of contract, is that correct?
forcefraser
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by maverick23 »

Spud wrote: 04 Sep 2023, 03:57
maverick23 wrote: 04 Sep 2023, 01:59
gregregegg wrote: 03 Sep 2023, 07:48 Is Eubank with boxxer or wasserman? Feel like theres a few paydays available for him. Smith trillogy, Benn, Brook, any actualy belt holder....
He’s with Wasserman but doesn’t have a TV deal so could fight on any network.
Both Smith & Eubank are now out of contract, is that correct?
Yep.
bripez
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Re: Ben Shalom

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He's not even a good bullshitter.

It is even more mysterious how he went from organising student nights (that weren't financially successful) one week to signing an exclusive deal with Sky the following week.

There is something not right somewhere.
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Re: Ben Shalom

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bripez wrote: 04 Sep 2023, 06:44 He's not even a good bullshitter.

It is even more mysterious how he went from organising student nights (that weren't financially successful) one week to signing an exclusive deal with Sky the following week.

There is something not right somewhere.
Apparently he was spotted by Philip Schofield as an 11 yr old in drama club
Spud
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by Spud »

Since I tried sticking up for Shalom, I have to concede it seems I am in the minority.

I am starting to sway and am getting p*ssed off with the standard of boxing on Sky TV …

I have already said Shalom has put together an excellent team, John Wichusen is his head of boxing and Ed Roff is his event management bloke … the reason why I mention that is because its no
Good stating the promotional team is out of their depth …Wichusen did an outstanding job at matchroom and Roff was outstanding at what he did at the WBSS & Sauerland.

Shalom has people in positions he can lean on.

So I am asking why on earth are things so wrong with boxing on sky tv?
cormack
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by cormack »

Spud wrote: 04 Sep 2023, 13:25 Since I tried sticking up for Shalom, I have to concede it seems I am in the minority.

I am starting to sway and am getting p*ssed off with the standard of boxing on Sky TV …

I have already said Shalom has put together an excellent team, John Wichusen is his head of boxing and Ed Roff is his event management bloke … the reason why I mention that is because its no
Good stating the promotional team is out of their depth …Wichusen did an outstanding job at matchroom and Roff was outstanding at what he did at the WBSS & Sauerland.

Shalom has people in positions he can lean on.

So I am asking why on earth are things so wrong with boxing on sky tv?
I think you have to point to shaloms inexperience and overall lack of any boxing background plus trying to compete against eddie & old fish eyes from a pretty weak position in terms of a stable .
Add the stupid behaviour around riakhpore / opetai and clark / wardley which has left them wide open to critical comment.
Then we get a total rip off ppv for smith v eubank after which shalom admits on tv he saw smith weeks ago looking huge and wondered how he would ever get the weight off .... naive or what !

This is whats out in the public domain so whats been going on behind closed doors will be anyones guess.
maverick23
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by maverick23 »

bripez wrote: 04 Sep 2023, 06:44 He's not even a good bullshitter.

It is even more mysterious how he went from organising student nights (that weren't financially successful) one week to signing an exclusive deal with Sky the following week.

There is something not right somewhere.
He’d promoted 4 shows or so before the Sky deal. I remember one being on BT. Can’t remember what channel the others were on.

They probably saw Shalom as someone that they could potentially mould into something whilst they’d (Adam Smirh) essentially have a lot more input.

Hasn’t worked out that way this year.
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by maverick23 »

Spud wrote: 04 Sep 2023, 13:25 Since I tried sticking up for Shalom, I have to concede it seems I am in the minority.

I am starting to sway and am getting p*ssed off with the standard of boxing on Sky TV …

I have already said Shalom has put together an excellent team, John Wichusen is his head of boxing and Ed Roff is his event management bloke … the reason why I mention that is because its no
Good stating the promotional team is out of their depth …Wichusen did an outstanding job at matchroom and Roff was outstanding at what he did at the WBSS & Sauerland.

Shalom has people in positions he can lean on.

So I am asking why on earth are things so wrong with boxing on sky tv?
I’d be happier being annoyed with the standard. I can’t though as the last U.K. show on Sky Sports was 8-9 weeks ago.
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Re: Ben Shalom

Post by higgs88 »

si7dog7 wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 16:02 Maybe give the guy a break
The other fella has juicers pouring out of every orafice.

If you want sports as a package then SKY isn’t a bad deal

You want just boxing in UK. Come on now. It don’t exist

DAZN struggles in UK. Coz it is US focused.

Get real people. Eddie went for the Yankee Dollar. Canelo, and selling, yet again, AJ.

Don’t blame the next cab on the rank
What a silly comment. How about well done Hearn for testing fighters. Shalom hasn't got a clue, sneaky as they come and well out of his depth. Snake
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