Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - Who wins?

Who wins?

Poll ended at 22 Oct 2025, 03:37

Joshua - Decision
5
5%
Joshua - T/KO
40
37%
DRAW
1
1%
Wilder - T/KO
60
56%
Wilder - Decision
2
2%
 
Total votes: 108

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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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The Gratest wrote: 12 Sep 2023, 17:00
Nightmare Roy wrote: 12 Sep 2023, 12:30
big lennox wrote: 12 Sep 2023, 12:04

True, although I would have thought that both are seasoned enough not to worry about who the crowd supports. I don't think they will need to worry about the scorecards either.

AJ vs Filip Hrgovic would be a good fight, if the Wilder fight doesn't happen.

I can't see Wilder getting in the ring with anyone with a pulse.

The heavyweight top table has become achingly dull.
The one guy up for it is half the size of the others.
Doofy will interpret that as referring to penis size.
While rubbing it raw 7 times a day
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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BigDoofus wrote: 12 Sep 2023, 16:49 I’m shocked how many of you actually thought that the business plan had changed after all those years.
You do know he was being sarcastic, don't you? Tell me you understand what sarcasm is.
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jwfg wrote: 13 Sep 2023, 16:00
BigDoofus wrote: 12 Sep 2023, 16:49 I’m shocked how many of you actually thought that the business plan had changed after all those years.
You do know he was being sarcastic, don't you? Tell me you understand what sarcasm is.
Incredible the amount of traction that a flippant throwaway tweet from Bazza has cemented itself in boxing gospel
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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handsofstone wrote: 13 Sep 2023, 16:05
jwfg wrote: 13 Sep 2023, 16:00
BigDoofus wrote: 12 Sep 2023, 16:49 I’m shocked how many of you actually thought that the business plan had changed after all those years.
You do know he was being sarcastic, don't you? Tell me you understand what sarcasm is.
Incredible the amount of traction that a flippant throwaway tweet from Bazza has cemented itself in boxing gospel
It's in the boxing bible, book of Doofus 2:14 'Though shalt lick Tyson Fury's bot hole.'
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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handsofstone wrote: 13 Sep 2023, 16:05.


Incredible the amount of traction that a flippant throwaway tweet from Bazza has cemented itself in boxing gospel
Incredible the amount of traction that over 7 years of fighting Wilder “after this next fight” has not cemented itself in Knitting Circle gospel.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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Incredible how repetitive, obsessed and wrong one person can be :cry:

Pray for Doofy 🙏🏻
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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BigDoofus wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 05:20
handsofstone wrote: 13 Sep 2023, 16:05.


Incredible the amount of traction that a flippant throwaway tweet from Bazza has cemented itself in boxing gospel
Incredible the amount of traction that over 7 years of fighting Wilder “after this next fight” has not cemented itself in Knitting Circle gospel.
Takes two to tango Doof and like your boy Fury, Wilder turned down the fight with Joshua
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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handsofstone wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 06:21
BigDoofus wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 05:20
handsofstone wrote: 13 Sep 2023, 16:05.


Incredible the amount of traction that a flippant throwaway tweet from Bazza has cemented itself in boxing gospel
Incredible the amount of traction that over 7 years of fighting Wilder “after this next fight” has not cemented itself in Knitting Circle gospel.
Takes two to tango Doof and like your boy Fury, Wilder turned down the fight with Joshua
It's amazing that Wilder has fought one top 10 guy in his entire 46 fight career (and lost) yet everyone else is blamed for not fighting him when most of the rest of the top 10 throughout that period have faced a number of other top 10 guys.

Wilder has never faced Joshua, Klitschko, Parker, Povetkin, Whyte, Usyk, Pulev, Ruiz, Joyce etc not even Chisora.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

Post by gregregegg »

joshj909 wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 08:12
handsofstone wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 06:21
BigDoofus wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 05:20

Incredible the amount of traction that over 7 years of fighting Wilder “after this next fight” has not cemented itself in Knitting Circle gospel.
Takes two to tango Doof and like your boy Fury, Wilder turned down the fight with Joshua
It's amazing that Wilder has fought one top 10 guy in his entire 46 fight career (and lost) yet everyone else is blamed for not fighting him when most of the rest of the top 10 throughout that period have faced a number of other top 10 guys.

Wilder has never faced Joshua, Klitschko, Parker, Povetkin, Whyte, Usyk, Pulev, Ruiz, Joyce etc not even Chisora.
While I don’t/didn’t rate Ortiz, it’s very very hard to deny he was a top 10 heavyweight.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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gregregegg wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 08:16
joshj909 wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 08:12
handsofstone wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 06:21

Takes two to tango Doof and like your boy Fury, Wilder turned down the fight with Joshua
It's amazing that Wilder has fought one top 10 guy in his entire 46 fight career (and lost) yet everyone else is blamed for not fighting him when most of the rest of the top 10 throughout that period have faced a number of other top 10 guys.

Wilder has never faced Joshua, Klitschko, Parker, Povetkin, Whyte, Usyk, Pulev, Ruiz, Joyce etc not even Chisora.
While I don’t/didn’t rate Ortiz, it’s very very hard to deny he was a top 10 heavyweight.
I rank a top 10 based on their record more than their ability against cans and I'm also of the view that retrospectively his record has never definitively proved that he is conclusively top 10. He's one of those "eye-test" boxers because he has never proved what his admirers have claimed he could do.

His biggest wins are Charles Martin (2022), Malik Scott (2016) and Bryant Jennings (2015). He first faced Wilder in 2018. Realistically, it all comes down to how people rate Jennings and how long they would allow his rank to cling onto that victory. Even then, Jennings' split decision win over Mike Perez is the only thing making Jennings record worth acknowledging.

While there are arguments to be made about Ortiz being top 10, he would only have been fringe top 10 and there are also just as many arguments to be made against it.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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handsofstone wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 06:21
BigDoofus wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 05:20
handsofstone wrote: 13 Sep 2023, 16:05.


Incredible the amount of traction that a flippant throwaway tweet from Bazza has cemented itself in boxing gospel
Incredible the amount of traction that over 7 years of fighting Wilder “after this next fight” has not cemented itself in Knitting Circle gospel.
Takes two to tango Doof and like your boy Fury, Wilder turned down the fight with Joshua
Joshua has turned down Fury twice in the past 9 months. The Knitting Circle actually believed that the Wilder fight was “Locked in” and give him an easy ride.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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BigDoofus wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 12:53
handsofstone wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 06:21
BigDoofus wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 05:20

Incredible the amount of traction that over 7 years of fighting Wilder “after this next fight” has not cemented itself in Knitting Circle gospel.
Takes two to tango Doof and like your boy Fury, Wilder turned down the fight with Joshua
Joshua has turned down Fury twice in the past 9 months. The Knitting Circle actually believed that the Wilder fight was “Locked in” and give him an easy ride.
Fury put unnecessary deadline demands in negotiations, even Frank admitted it was out of his control, funny how he didn't put any of the same ones on Chisora who funnily enough Fury said he would fight months earlier, the Wilder fight being locked in is a fair point, can't defend that,
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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BigDoofus wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 12:53
handsofstone wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 06:21
BigDoofus wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 05:20

Incredible the amount of traction that over 7 years of fighting Wilder “after this next fight” has not cemented itself in Knitting Circle gospel.
Takes two to tango Doof and like your boy Fury, Wilder turned down the fight with Joshua
Joshua has turned down Fury twice in the past 9 months. The Knitting Circle actually believed that the Wilder fight was “Locked in” and give him an easy ride.
Oh and here I was praising you on another thread for not posting your usual repetitive trolling bile...how foolish of me :doh:
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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Fury has proved time and time again that he is a master at calling out and offering fights , when he has put obstacles in the way , he's also a master at convincing his fans he was genuine .

But Jezz , i wish BIG JOHN DOOFUS would give it a rest , change the record and tell us WHY you would'nt fight Theo in that charity match , and don't come out with the we put it on him and he did'nt show up at a manchester gym , we all know you only gave him a couple hrs notice , to get ready drive from London and fight you surrounded by 200 gypsys
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coneye wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 14:12 Fury has proved time and time again that he is a master at calling out and offering fights , when he has put obstacles in the way , he's also a master at convincing his fans he was genuine .

But Jezz , i wish BIG JOHN DOOFUS would give it a rest , change the record and tell us WHY you would'nt fight Theo in that charity match , and don't come out with the we put it on him and he did'nt show up at a manchester gym , we all know you only gave him a couple hrs notice , to get ready drive from London and fight you surrounded by 200 gypsys
Joshua turned down the chance for a World title fight this month. Fury stayed quiet throughout.
Please provide links to the obstacles that Fury put in the way to prevent this fight happening or admit that you are fabricating excuses for Joshua.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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handsofstone wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 13:47
BigDoofus wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 12:53
handsofstone wrote: 14 Sep 2023, 06:21

Takes two to tango Doof and like your boy Fury, Wilder turned down the fight with Joshua
Joshua has turned down Fury twice in the past 9 months. The Knitting Circle actually believed that the Wilder fight was “Locked in” and give him an easy ride.
Fury put unnecessary deadline demands in negotiations, even Frank admitted it was out of his control, funny how he didn't put any of the same ones on Chisora who funnily enough Fury said he would fight months earlier, the Wilder fight being locked in is a fair point, can't defend that,
What unnecessary demands did Fury make that prevented Joshua accepting this months fight?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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Fury defo shat it from both AJ and Usyk. In fact he's positively running scared of Usyk. Ran all the way to Saudi chasing money against a novice boxer just to avoid Usyk. Shameful stuff really.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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i dunno, when undisputed is some other bitches dream, and not fury's, half a billion sounds like a rather modest demand to fight usyk
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He's some guy is Fury, sacrificing his legacy for all that money just to donate it to a charity. :bow:
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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So the company that we’re doing this is basically dead? Is that what people are saying?

Because if so isn’t that who usyk signed a deal with because fornicate if usyk gets fucked about for a couple of years with a bad promo outfit it will be a massive shame.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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The winner of this fight will become the WBC mandatory challenger. I wonder why their promoters seem to be shying away from the fight?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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Given how long Whyte was WBC #1/madatory, that means very little. Has about as much meaning as one of your AJ or Usyk obsessive posts Doofy.

Fury would find a way out of fighting Joshua again anyway.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

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big lennox wrote: 12 Sep 2023, 09:58 AJ vs Wilder is now "unlikely".

Essentially, Uysk is keeping the heavyweight division afloat at the moment:

Frank Smith hasn't really opened any eyes here.

If Joshua and Wilder wanted to fight each, they've had over 5 years to do it.

They couldn't agree terms when they were both the big dogs with all the belts between them, so I would imagine they'd be less inclined now as ex champions because if they do fight, the loser is effectively finished at the top tier, unless the titles fragment again.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

Post by polecateddy »

Is it a situation where Fury is wary of Usyk and Joshua, and Joshua doesn’t trust his form enough not to get blitzed by Wilder. Really that just leaves Usyk v Wilder as the only viable top tier heavyweight match up.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - January 2024?

Post by si7dog7 »

These “Sanctioning” bodies are not fit for purpose.
Fury should have stripped of his title at least 6 months ago.
Why hasn’t he?
Coz the WBC are like their champ, gazing lovingly at huge fees from a potential Saudi/Qatar fight.

Its disgraceful.

Boot all these leeches into the dust.

The UFC model isn’t perfect but crikey it is several leagues above this nonsense.

I’d have Ring magazine and Boxrec over the current nonsense.

To save this as a sport and not a money fest.

Our lower level guys are suffering because the Saudi money isn’t “washed” down to them. Pardon the terrible joke.

Joshua v Wilder is the subject and no one is talking about it. The discussion always morphs into this.

Its fugazi
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