You’re waffling on about Fury yet again.
Why did Joshua duck the WBC title last month?
Maybe he didn't trust it wouldn't happen even if he agreed. Fury bolted from the agreed fight previously.
He’s on his 8th year of not fighting Wilder and he’s turned down 2 World title fights in 9 months.
How many more years are you going to carry on ignoring it?
jwfg wrote: ↑02 Oct 2023, 10:24
Two failed tests and counting for your idol.
Most sane people wouldn’t recognize the one that you’ve claimed in the past week.
The Gratest Troll has some serious competition.
Why doesn't Fury have a BBBofC licence?
Why did Fury never attend a hearing when he was banned?
What kind of testing does Fury have for the Ngannou fight?
You’re waffling on about Fury yet again.
Why did Joshua duck the WBC title last month?
Maybe he didn't trust it wouldn't happen even if he agreed. Fury bolted from the agreed fight previously.
He’s on his 8th year of not fighting Wilder and he’s turned down 2 World title fights in 9 months.
How many more years are you going to carry on ignoring it?
AJ can be proud. He has boxed Uysk twice, boxed Ruiz twice and both Fury and Wilder have walked away from fights with him.
If the top contender, can't agree terms then the WBC should go down the list of ranked boxers to get a shot. Fair enough if number ranked won't fight go to number 2 and so on. I'm guessing a top 10 or 15 would face Fury and for a mediocre pay check.
The WBC at some point has to find a boxer to face the champion. I would have thought the WBC should say, Fury has to fight someone in the top 10 in the next 3 months. If a fight cannot be made tough shit on Fury you are going to be stripped. If the WBC aren't bothered about stripping Fury then of course he will knock his heals and just fight dumb ass exhibitions and make money from those.
jwfg wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 06:51
I just heard that Tyson Fury failed another PED test and that's the reason he couldn't fight earlier in the year.
The voices in jwfg’s head are deafening him.
Why doesn't Fury have a BBBofC licence?
Why did Fury never attend a hearing when he was banned?
What kind of testing does Fury have for the Ngannou fight?
Maybe he didn't trust it wouldn't happen even if he agreed. Fury bolted from the agreed fight previously.
He’s on his 8th year of not fighting Wilder and he’s turned down 2 World title fights in 9 months.
How many more years are you going to carry on ignoring it?
AJ can be proud. He has boxed Uysk twice, boxed Ruiz twice and both Fury and Wilder have walked away from fights with him.
He can duck Fury and Wilder for evermore but big Lennox will ignore it because he lost to Ruiz and Usyk.
I'm pretty sure if AJ had beaten Usyk the 1st time around, he'd probably have already fought Fury, but the best laid plans of mice and men...and boxing promoters don't always work out
AJ vs Wilder is still definitely a marketable fight.
Usyk vs Zhang would be good.
Even if Fury wants to play Tiddlywinks and fight none of the above. It'll be alright. Eventually he'll have to sh*t or get off the pot as they say.
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Oct 2023, 13:40
I'm pretty sure if AJ had beaten Usyk the 1st time around, he'd probably have already fought Fury, but the best laid plans of mice and men...and boxing promoters don't always work out
AJ vs Wilder is still definitely a marketable fight.
Usyk vs Zhang would be good.
Even if Fury wants to play Tiddlywinks and fight none of the above. It'll be alright. Eventually he'll have to sh*t or get off the pot as they say.
Hopefully the Fury vs Uysk fight being made will lead to Joshua vs Wilder being made as well.
The first few months of the year, in the heavyweight division, were tedious, but the start of 2024 could be amazing. You can make a case for each fighter winning.
I hope Zhang lands a big fight as well. Him vs Ruiz would be a good watch.
I'd keep Dubois away from Hrgovic at this stage, but he can come again. There are some really good fights to be made in the coming months.
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I suspect Usyk vs Zhang would be a huge fight in Macau, China. Are they still trying to make that city the "Vegas of the East" I remember that was the idea when Pacquiao fought their a while back.
I figure that'd be the biggest possible location for that fight. Although obviously if Usyk can fight Fury. I'd rather see that.
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Oct 2023, 13:46
I suspect Usyk vs Zhang would be a huge fight in Macau, China. Are they still trying to make that city the "Vegas of the East" I remember that was the idea when Pacquiao fought their a while back.
I figure that'd be the biggest possible location for that fight. Although obviously if Usyk can fight Fury. I'd rather see that.
It would be massive in China? I wonder if they invest in Boxing? Would be great if they did.
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Oct 2023, 13:46
I suspect Usyk vs Zhang would be a huge fight in Macau, China. Are they still trying to make that city the "Vegas of the East" I remember that was the idea when Pacquiao fought their a while back.
I figure that'd be the biggest possible location for that fight. Although obviously if Usyk can fight Fury. I'd rather see that.
It would be massive in China? I wonder if they invest in Boxing? Would be great if they did.
They tried it once with Pacquiao. I'd think if ever they could market Boxing in China it'd be when they have a Chinese Heavyweight Champion. Though maybe they'd rather wait for him to be the defending Champion, and not challenging for it.
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Oct 2023, 13:40
I'm pretty sure if AJ had beaten Usyk the 1st time around, he'd probably have already fought Fury, but the best laid plans of mice and men...and boxing promoters don't always work out
AJ vs Wilder is still definitely a marketable fight.
Usyk vs Zhang would be good.
Even if Fury wants to play Tiddlywinks and fight none of the above. It'll be alright. Eventually he'll have to sh*t or get off the pot as they say.
Hopefully the Fury vs Uysk fight being made will lead to Joshua vs Wilder being made as well.
The first few months of the year, in the heavyweight division, were tedious, but the start of 2024 could be amazing. You can make a case for each fighter winning.
I hope Zhang lands a big fight as well. Him vs Ruiz would be a good watch.
I'd keep Dubois away from Hrgovic at this stage, but he can come again. There are some really good fights to be made in the coming months.
I now consider Joshua, as well as Fury - semi retired effectively. All they do is talk these days. It's very boring.
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Oct 2023, 13:40
I'm pretty sure if AJ had beaten Usyk the 1st time around, he'd probably have already fought Fury, but the best laid plans of mice and men...and boxing promoters don't always work out
AJ vs Wilder is still definitely a marketable fight.
Usyk vs Zhang would be good.
Even if Fury wants to play Tiddlywinks and fight none of the above. It'll be alright. Eventually he'll have to sh*t or get off the pot as they say.
Hopefully the Fury vs Uysk fight being made will lead to Joshua vs Wilder being made as well.
The first few months of the year, in the heavyweight division, were tedious, but the start of 2024 could be amazing. You can make a case for each fighter winning.
I hope Zhang lands a big fight as well. Him vs Ruiz would be a good watch.
I'd keep Dubois away from Hrgovic at this stage, but he can come again. There are some really good fights to be made in the coming months.
I now consider Joshua, as well as Fury - semi retired effectively. All they do is talk these days. It's very boring.
Yes the heavyweight division has become very much a ‘business’ and not a sport. People are just not competing against other. The division could really do with a Super Six competition, but clearly that’s not happening.
Hopefully the Fury vs Uysk fight being made will lead to Joshua vs Wilder being made as well.
The first few months of the year, in the heavyweight division, were tedious, but the start of 2024 could be amazing. You can make a case for each fighter winning.
I hope Zhang lands a big fight as well. Him vs Ruiz would be a good watch.
I'd keep Dubois away from Hrgovic at this stage, but he can come again. There are some really good fights to be made in the coming months.
I now consider Joshua, as well as Fury - semi retired effectively. All they do is talk these days. It's very boring.
Yes the heavyweight division has become very much a ‘business’ and not a sport. People are just not competing against other. The division could really do with a Super Six competition, but clearly that’s not happening.
The old farts need to clear off, but then I suspect the reason they haven't is that there's so little new blood in the division.
Look at the top 50 on boxrec, it makes for really depressing reading.
Of the top 50, only 10 are under 30 years old! Pretty daming.
I now consider Joshua, as well as Fury - semi retired effectively. All they do is talk these days. It's very boring.
Yes the heavyweight division has become very much a ‘business’ and not a sport. People are just not competing against other. The division could really do with a Super Six competition, but clearly that’s not happening.
The old farts need to clear off, but then I suspect the reason they haven't is that there's so little new blood in the division.
Look at the top 50 on boxrec, it makes for really depressing reading.
Of the top 50, only 10 are under 30 years old! Pretty daming.
Someone usually pops up but it looks dire.
Jalolov is the obvious one if he sticks to the pros.
Who else? RIchard Torrez has failed to convince me yet as looks too small but is exciting and can sell.
I'm amazed someone like Frank Sanchez isn't champing at the bit to get a mando spot with someone. Beat that Efe Agjaba guy in 2021 which was prospect v prospect but has fought cans since then rather than go for a final eliminator.
