Controversial wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023, 18:25
GreenLightning wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023, 18:06
Controversial wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023, 08:00
But aren’t they allowed in bodybuilding? I guess if the actual drug isn’t illegal then it’s a choice whether you want to take it?
The difference is you consent to a fight where I expect the other guy to be in good shape, but not pumped with industrial shi!te, I , you, or a family member , could get seriously injured or killed, we already expect a level of brutality out of boxing, it's a juxtoposition at the best of times as we jump up for a knockout but then quickly remember there's a human being whos lying unconscious( and hopefully that's the worst) for it, it's always been a corrupt sport open to exploitation, even at its "purest" form of can be utterly savage (an overused word now but apt when people's heads are hitting the floor)how do we fix all the holes in this ship, I couldn't begin to tell you, but if we're going to just have a complete free for all then I say good luck and I probably opt out
As I said in my opening post I think they should be illegal. However it seems the untraceable PEDs are a thing so the testers are probably scratching the service in terms of who they catch. Even then they can eventually fight again anyway.
PEDs and killing someone is often said but I’m not sure if anyone has actually ever killed an opponent and been found guilty of taking drugs, I could be wrong on that but nothing springs to mind. In reality we watch complete mismatches all the time, out of shape fighters, completely inept fighters, fighters way past their best and unable to make a coherent sentence, getting smacked around by some up and coming pro who has been given the best training and preparation while their opponent has hardly trained or is out of their depth in terms of competitiveness. Isn’t that more dangerous?
The
Problem is the testing is already shi t . You're allowed something like five times the normal level of Testosterone expected from a normal person before they see it as adverse, was that BBBoC or VADA I'm not sure, none of them are very good, and it's extremely confusing , too confusing for me as a metaphorical up and comer living on pot noodles
So I would dare say many fighters have been injured by a PED user who we didn't know was a PED user because testing is just, again, barely even fit for purpose , and the cheating is just absolutely rampant, for a reason you stated, kind of like nuclear proliferation mentality, if they're doin it we better do it, but problem is not everyone is doing it, we just assume our opponent is to justify it in our own heads
Some fighters clearly aren't fit to be licensed, and Robert Smith is corrupt, some other fighters may have 30 odd losing streak but can tuck up to take a prospect four rounds, which is exactly why we can't expect boxing to be now be stripped of what little regulation it already has rather than fixing or adding to it, keep the same guy as head of the INBoX for the last 3 decades and ask why it's all a corrupt shambles it's a wild West sport where each "board" or "athletic commission" is in competition with each other so it's basically a wild West where there is no authority and biggest pocket best connections gets the grease
If they'll let things like, to use a contemporary example, Lucy Letby away with murder because they (The Trusts) were competing for funds, they'll do anything, you know the dodgy bastards involved in this sport too
I say we need MORE regulation, from the ground level up, and less of a wild West shitshow, we need regulating bodies that don't regulate and investigate themselves, regulating bodies that don't stop regulating certain things when big brown letters get handed around by people with the right connections
This is a discussion that goes beyond PEDs, but I don't think the failures of attempted regulation from corrupt bodies means that regulation is now a bad thing
