Will Fury duck Usyk?

Will Fury fight Usyk?

Fury will fight him on 23rd December
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3%
Fury will delay the fight, but it will happen during Q1 2024
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26%
Fury will eventually take the fight, but not within the next 6 months
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16%
Fury will duck him, the fight will never happen
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55%
 
Total votes: 76

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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity- ... ore-target

John said last month that his (Tyson) time spent with the Saudi's made him realise that his current millionaire fortune was chicken feed in comparison and he's now on a mission to become the richest boxer ever.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 07:50
Controversial wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 07:02
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 05:23

I don't think he gives a single let alone two shites
Probably not but he can’t really come up with more excuses to duck Usyk. His only other option is to retire and would he really want to go out with the Ngannou fight as his last fight, his bragging rights would take a hammering.
Sadly there's probably still enough rubes out there to buy whatever he's selling. Claim that Usyks ducking, and rematch Ngannou, this time with the belts on the line again in Saudi, it will sell no problem.

Gets in proper shape, wins emphatically, or at least convincingly, 3rd fight, or maybe yet another wilder fight.

There's still plenty of options.

I don't see usyk fight happening now, and he's too greedy to retiree.
I think saying Usyk is ducking him now after the contract has been signed wouldn’t hold much weight as terms have already been agreed.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 07:50
Controversial wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 07:02
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 05:23

I don't think he gives a single let alone two shites
Probably not but he can’t really come up with more excuses to duck Usyk. His only other option is to retire and would he really want to go out with the Ngannou fight as his last fight, his bragging rights would take a hammering.
Sadly there's probably still enough rubes out there to buy whatever he's selling. Claim that Usyks ducking, and rematch Ngannou, this time with the belts on the line again in Saudi, it will sell no problem.

Gets in proper shape, wins emphatically, or at least convincingly, 3rd fight, or maybe yet another wilder fight.

There's still plenty of options.

I don't see usyk fight happening now, and he's too greedy to retire.
If he rematches Ngannou, would he win emphatically though? I have my doubts. I dont buy into it that he completely overlooked Ngannou, i just think we seen Fury's limitations. I've always said he cannot punch properly, and when Ngannou was not biting on his feints he was lost. Also in a rematch Ngannou is sure tp up his game, there is much more chance to see a big improvement from him than there is from Fury, i suspect.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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He will be getting a nine-figure payday for Undisputed. Course he fights him.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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He won't duck him. He might retire.

My best guess is he fights Usyk. And win or lose he bows out with an AJ showdown.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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Hell hath no Fury like a radio station scorned :maybe:

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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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Fury was interviewed by IFL and made it very clear he could fight in December but it wasn't his decision.

He wasn't cut, it was a graze on his forehead.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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Twinkle Toes wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 11:38 Fury was interviewed by IFL and made it very clear he could fight in December but it wasn't his decision.

He wasn't cut, it was a graze on his forehead.
It is his decision.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Post by tonyevs »

Most commented prior to the Ngannou fight that Fury wouldn't fight Usyk before Feb/March 2024 .. after Fury got humiliated by Ngannou it's wishful thinking Fury fights Usyk even that soon.

I don't believe Fury's flabby bloated body is now capable of getting in the shape it will need to to beat Usyk. Wilder, Whyte and Chisora all hid the decline in Fury .. but it was all there to see against the fit and strong 37yr old guy making his boxing debut.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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Nightmare Roy wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 11:59
It is his decision.
Oh I agree mate, but just shows how he plays the game with the public
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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Twinkle Toes wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 12:29
Nightmare Roy wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 11:59
It is his decision.
Oh I agree mate, but just shows how he plays the game with the public
Exactly, he is really exposing himself right now. He is making a mockery of the sport and the fans. He thinks its all a bit of a joke and he can do as he pleases, which unfortunately it would seem that he can.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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KiwiRider wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:24
Steveh583 wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 08:47 With the millions on the table I wouldn’t be surprised if he cashes out
I don't think his ego could take the inevitable loss. In his mind he is still the greatest boxer ever lived.
He will just have to find and easier opponent than an inactive 0-0 novice recovering from major surgery- or Chisora IV
not sure its inevitable just yet
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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tonyevs wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 12:13
I don't believe Fury's flabby bloated body is now capable of getting in the shape it will need to to beat Usyk. Wilder, Whyte and Chisora all hid the decline in Fury .. but it was all there to see against the fit and strong 37yr old guy making his boxing debut.
i def dont think he can train like he did. or doesnt want to.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Post by gilgamesh »

Even though I do believe Usyk will beat Fury, I already thought that before the Ngannou fight.

Fury fought about like he always does against Ngannou honestly, he just wasn't quite prepared for Ngannou to be as prepared as he was. Ngannou's timing wasn't great which is why he landed very few clean punches on Fury really, but his defense was sound enough that he was able to hold his own throughout the fight.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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Steveh583 wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 13:53
tonyevs wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 12:13
I don't believe Fury's flabby bloated body is now capable of getting in the shape it will need to to beat Usyk. Wilder, Whyte and Chisora all hid the decline in Fury .. but it was all there to see against the fit and strong 37yr old guy making his boxing debut.
i def dont think he can train like he did. or doesnt want to.
Fury has literally ALWAYS had a flabby body. Even in the 2nd Wilder fight when he was probably in the best shape he was ever in, he was still noticeably pudgy. That's just the way he's built.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Post by tonyevs »

Yes I agree he has a physique like a sack of blancmange.
But you can see some definition in his arms and chest when he has done some training of value.

For Ngannou he looked less flabby on the torso than some of his recent fights, but there wasn't any muscle visible on his arms or chest which suggested he dieted down to 19 and half stone instead of trained off the excess few stone he had.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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Which means that he was still able to win with relatively minimal effort in his training.

If he gets a big money rematch out of it, good for him I say. That'd be a Classic Hustle.

That being said, I hope a rematch with Ngannou would come after he fights Usyk first.

The Saudi's seemed to be reacting positively to Usyk in the crowd. Wasn't the 2nd Joshua fight there? They seemed to be familiar with him.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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Steveh583 wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 13:52
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:24
Steveh583 wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 08:47 With the millions on the table I wouldn’t be surprised if he cashes out
I don't think his ego could take the inevitable loss. In his mind he is still the greatest boxer ever lived.
He will just have to find and easier opponent than an inactive 0-0 novice recovering from major surgery- or Chisora IV
not sure its inevitable just yet
Not sure he can return to the sort of form he needs to be in for that one Steve. In fact, I'm certain he can't, because he needs to be in the sort of form he was in to beat Wlad. Uysk isn't a one trick pony like Wilder, he is levels above anyone Fury has fought before.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:32 since fury says there is a legal obligation to fight in december, and that usyk has no choice, im optimistic it will happen :lol:
Good on ya mate.
Glad to see life hasn't beaten all optimism out of you yet.
This non-fight should do the trick to complete that perfectly :TU:
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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KiwiRider wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 14:47
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:32 since fury says there is a legal obligation to fight in december, and that usyk has no choice, im optimistic it will happen :lol:
Good on ya mate.
Glad to see life hasn't beaten all optimism out of you yet.
This non-fight should do the trick to complete that perfectly :TU:
Just read on facebook , there definetly gonna fight , BUT in the courts not the ring , seems Usyk is taking the legal obligation very serious and taking the Gypsy Ducker to the courts for offically pulling out , , ths WBC and Warren are really the ones who are coming out of this looking bad , , anyone with half a brain knows the Gypsy Ducker has spent a carreer ducking , avoiding good opponents ,conning the public along with his idiotic father playing the class clown , but they have good reason , there after making money and making money is what they have done , so really its the THOUSANDS and Thousands OF NITWITS WHO FORK OUT THERE hard earned to watch this goose that are to blame , if they stop buying his rubbish and drivel he'll retire .

But the WBC and Warren thats different , both have sold there integrity to be part of this clowns circus
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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coneye wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 16:58 ......But the WBC and Warren thats different , both have sold there integrity to be part of this clowns circus
'Allegedly' done this years and years ago....this is the guy who tried to convince us that Dmitry Salita was 'a big puncher'....
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 13:55
Steveh583 wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 13:53
tonyevs wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 12:13
I don't believe Fury's flabby bloated body is now capable of getting in the shape it will need to to beat Usyk. Wilder, Whyte and Chisora all hid the decline in Fury .. but it was all there to see against the fit and strong 37yr old guy making his boxing debut.
i def dont think he can train like he did. or doesnt want to.
Fury has literally ALWAYS had a flabby body. Even in the 2nd Wilder fight when he was probably in the best shape he was ever in, he was still noticeably pudgy. That's just the way he's built.
I reckon his best shape was July 2015, in the Wlad fight. Mind you there was Nandrolone in his system in February 2015! Not much power in that fight but plenty of cardio.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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polecateddy wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 17:18
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 13:55
Steveh583 wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 13:53

i def dont think he can train like he did. or doesnt want to.
Fury has literally ALWAYS had a flabby body. Even in the 2nd Wilder fight when he was probably in the best shape he was ever in, he was still noticeably pudgy. That's just the way he's built.
I reckon his best shape was July 2015, in the Wlad fight. Mind you there was Nandrolone in his system in February 2015! Not much power in that fight but plenty of cardio.
I think that fight was his peek. Boring though it was, it was still a 12 round display of super sharp skills.
It's no wonder he ducked the rematch, he would be lucky pulling that off twice.
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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

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NazNaci1 wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 17:12
coneye wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 16:58 ......But the WBC and Warren thats different , both have sold there integrity to be part of this clowns circus
'Allegedly' done this years and years ago....this is the guy who tried to convince us that Dmitry Salita was 'a big puncher'....
…. And the WBC have never had integrity.

Will create a new belt for any contest, just for the coin and publicity.

And as predicted, I hear they are going to rank Ngannou now.
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