Ngannou to fight on 23.12. - who will he fight?

Who will Ngannou fight on December 23rd?

Tyson Fury
0
No votes
Oleksandr Usyk
1
2%
Anthony Joshua
13
25%
Deontay Wilder
2
4%
Zhilei Zhang
1
2%
Joseph Parker
6
12%
Otto Wallin
0
No votes
Filip Hrgovic
0
No votes
Dillian Whyte
1
2%
Derek Chisora
11
21%
Somebody else
1
2%
Ngannou wont fight on 23rd December
16
31%
 
Total votes: 52

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Coco wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 09:03
MasterG wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 08:37 AJs career is almost over so it would be wise him fight Francis purely for a big pay check to see him into retirement.
AJ will beat Francis
I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 11:25
Coco wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 09:03
MasterG wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 08:37 AJs career is almost over so it would be wise him fight Francis purely for a big pay check to see him into retirement.
AJ will beat Francis
I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.
IMO Fury will retire after the Usyk fight.
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jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 11:57
Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 11:25
Coco wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 09:03

AJ will beat Francis
I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.
IMO Fury will retire after the Usyk fight.
Fury is 1/7 to retire after any given fight.
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joshj909 wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 12:02
jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 11:57
Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 11:25

I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.
IMO Fury will retire after the Usyk fight.
Fury is 1/7 to retire after any given fight.
Very true joshj909, but this time he'll be retiring on the back of a beating.
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jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 11:57
Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 11:25
Coco wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 09:03

AJ will beat Francis
I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.
IMO Fury will retire after the Usyk fight.
He might retire before the Usyk fight.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 13:05
jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 11:57
Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 11:25

I think so too, which is why Hearn is gunning for it, huge payday with the potential of another again Wilder or Fury in the future.
IMO Fury will retire after the Usyk fight.
He might retire before the Usyk fight.
The humiliation of getting floored by a middle-aged cage fighter must be all consuming, :oops:
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jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 08:49
MasterG wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 08:37 AJs career is almost over.
Really? I thought he wanted to fight to be the unified champion? :confused:
AJ hasn't got many more fights let in him
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MasterG wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 13:19
jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 08:49
MasterG wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 08:37 AJs career is almost over.
Really? I thought he wanted to fight to be the unified champion? :confused:
AJ hasn't got many more fights let in him
Yeah, but you don't like guy, so you'll forgive me for saying that you may be the slightest bit biased. ;-)
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jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 13:39
MasterG wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 13:19
jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 08:49

Really? I thought he wanted to fight to be the unified champion? :confused:
AJ hasn't got many more fights let in him
Yeah, but you don't like guy, so you'll forgive me for saying that you may be the slightest bit biased. ;-)
AJ will definitely fight more times than Fury, probably more than Usyk and Wilder.
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jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 13:39
MasterG wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 13:19
jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 08:49

Really? I thought he wanted to fight to be the unified champion? :confused:
AJ hasn't got many more fights let in him
Yeah, but you don't like guy, so you'll forgive me for saying that you may be the slightest bit biased. ;-)

That's not true. I've always been a fan of AJ but after his defeat I then classed him as another David Price, and still stand by that.

If I didn't like the guy I wouldn't have travelled from North York's to London to see him fight Washington.

Imo, AJ hasn't got the 'eye of the tiger' anymore. He's very gun shy now and doesn't like a tear up.
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MasterG wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 15:28 If I didn't like the guy I wouldn't have travelled from North York's to London to see him fight Washington.
When was that? :confused:
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He might retire before the Usyk fight.

Fingers crossed. :TU:

The sooner the fat fool and his family of pond life are out of boxing the better.
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jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 15:33
MasterG wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 15:28 If I didn't like the guy I wouldn't have travelled from North York's to London to see him fight Washington.
When was that? :confused:
Sorry meant Franklin
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jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 06:19
SeanBrennan wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 06:09
Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 05:48

He must just love fighting, he has to have made plenty of money
definitely, has been one of the highest earners the past few yrs, and seems to have the Saudi bag too.
I would be absolutely amazed if it was Del. Ngannou ran Fury pretty close and some people think he won. I don't see him fighting a guy who's lost thirteen times, who barely anyone outside the UK has heard of. IMO, it'll be Usyk, AJ or Wilder, a padded nobody or a novelty fight.
very possibly. Del does manage to keep getting paydays though, somehow.
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jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 07:23
joshj909 wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 07:04
jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 06:19

I would be absolutely amazed if it was Del. Ngannou ran Fury pretty close and some people think he won. I don't see him fighting a guy who's lost thirteen times, who barely anyone outside the UK has heard of. IMO, it'll be Usyk, AJ or Wilder, a padded nobody or a novelty fight.
I guess we just have to work out who is the biggest name with the most padded record. Greg Hardy and Hasim Rahman Jr are two that stand out to me. Yoka is a beatable Olympic gold medalist so that would be quite a claim if he was to beat him plus he's a pretty big name in French boxing. Jarrell Miller would actually be fairly intriguing. Wilder is a bigger name but higher risk. You could them have someone like Dubois who has a padded record but we don't actually know if he's any good, smaller name than Chisora though.
It'll be AJ or Wilder.
I think Zhang makes the most business sense.
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Frostieballs wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 07:35
jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 07:23
joshj909 wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 07:04

I guess we just have to work out who is the biggest name with the most padded record. Greg Hardy and Hasim Rahman Jr are two that stand out to me. Yoka is a beatable Olympic gold medalist so that would be quite a claim if he was to beat him plus he's a pretty big name in French boxing. Jarrell Miller would actually be fairly intriguing. Wilder is a bigger name but higher risk. You could them have someone like Dubois who has a padded record but we don't actually know if he's any good, smaller name than Chisora though.
It'll be AJ or Wilder.
I think Zhang makes the most business sense.
AJ or Wilder is a much bigger fight right now. Zhang isn't Zou Shiming, he's not a massive name in China. Outside of it, boxing people know him and people who watch TNT, but that's it. Business to one side, why fight a southpaw with six weeks training?
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jwfg wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 10:38
Frostieballs wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 07:35
jwfg wrote: 06 Nov 2023, 07:23

It'll be AJ or Wilder.
I think Zhang makes the most business sense.
AJ or Wilder is a much bigger fight right now. Zhang isn't Zou Shiming, he's not a massive name in China. Outside of it, boxing people know him and people who watch TNT, but that's it. Business to one side, why fight a southpaw with six weeks training?
I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.
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Frostieballs wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 12:31
jwfg wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 10:38
Frostieballs wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 07:35

I think Zhang makes the most business sense.
AJ or Wilder is a much bigger fight right now. Zhang isn't Zou Shiming, he's not a massive name in China. Outside of it, boxing people know him and people who watch TNT, but that's it. Business to one side, why fight a southpaw with six weeks training?
I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.
If you were Shelly Finkel, would you advise Deontay to fight Ngannou for a massive purse as a tune up for AJ?
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jwfg wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 12:43
Frostieballs wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 12:31
jwfg wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 10:38

AJ or Wilder is a much bigger fight right now. Zhang isn't Zou Shiming, he's not a massive name in China. Outside of it, boxing people know him and people who watch TNT, but that's it. Business to one side, why fight a southpaw with six weeks training?
I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.
If you were Shelly Finkel, would you advise Deontay to fight Ngannou for a massive purse as a tune up for AJ?
100%
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Coco wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 15:32
jwfg wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 12:43
Frostieballs wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 12:31

I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.
If you were Shelly Finkel, would you advise Deontay to fight Ngannou for a massive purse as a tune up for AJ?
100%
Easy night's work for Wilder and AJ IMO.
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Who should Francis fight next?
Whoever makes the most cash.

Coz the others are just waiting and waiting and making excuses and waiting and…..

Enter Francis. Timing. Earn dough. Get out

Fury. Eat, drink, talk nonsense. Then wake up. “Oh sh1t. Frank, Dev, Frank ya dossers, Sausages what’s going on? Fire up the Passat ya dossers “

Usyk “ I’m not feel. Dollars going down drain”

Saudi bloke rubbing hand “ ah good the build up to fight will be 7 hours endorsing Ice tea and Emirates
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si7dog7 wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 16:27 Who should Francis fight next?
Whoever makes the most cash.

Coz the others are just waiting and waiting and making excuses and waiting and…..

Enter Francis. Timing. Earn dough. Get out

Fury. Eat, drink, talk nonsense. Then wake up. “Oh sh1t. Frank, Dev, Frank ya dossers, Sausages what’s going on? Fire up the Passat ya dossers “

Usyk “ I’m not feel. Dollars going down drain”

Saudi bloke rubbing hand “ ah good the build up to fight will be 7 hours endorsing Ice tea and Emirates
"I’m not feel." :lol:
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jwfg wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 12:43
Frostieballs wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 12:31
jwfg wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 10:38

AJ or Wilder is a much bigger fight right now. Zhang isn't Zou Shiming, he's not a massive name in China. Outside of it, boxing people know him and people who watch TNT, but that's it. Business to one side, why fight a southpaw with six weeks training?
I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.
If you were Shelly Finkel, would you advise Deontay to fight Ngannou for a massive purse as a tune up for AJ?
As I said … I’m basing it on the wildly hopefully assumption AJ Wilder is basically done.

If anyone starts taking tune ups or delaying we all know loads of things could derail it.
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Frostieballs wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 18:18
jwfg wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 12:43
Frostieballs wrote: 07 Nov 2023, 12:31

I am basing it on the premise that Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk are paired off.
If you were Shelly Finkel, would you advise Deontay to fight Ngannou for a massive purse as a tune up for AJ?
As I said … I’m basing it on the wildly hopefully assumption AJ Wilder is basically done.

If anyone starts taking tune ups or delaying we all know loads of things could derail it.
AJ wants to fight in December, Ngannou needs a dance partner. We shall see.
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Nightmare scenario for Francis is for Fury to fight uysk, AJ v Wilder, all have rematches and triologies leaving him to fight Dubois to stay relevant!
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