Expected more …

[Controversial]

Naz Hamed

He scythed his way through the level just down from elite with the promise of more to show .. unfortunately all he then demonstrated was the different levels between being very good and elite.

Hamed was my first thought. After such a big career he was outclassed by Barrera and then that was it. Had one more fight where he looked poor and then retired.

[Spud]

I also stand by naming BJS …

A lot more was expected of him than just a one sided defeat against the cheating mexican

[wrighty]

Easy. Audley Harrison. After seeing him in the Olympics I was telling everyone he’d dominate at heavyweight as a pro.

Yeah you’d have to be an idiot to think that…..

I am an idiot, I bought his autobiography after the Olympics and thought he would win everything!

He won 2 aba titles and the Commonwealth games too. He was the goods an an amateur.

[Cyclops]

What went wrong with Frankie Gavin?

He only ate one meal a day and it was beans on toast.

[si7dog7]

Once David won the title his longevity in the sport looked very promising only to be blighted by injury just before the Klitschko fight

Expectations tho
He was a smaller guy up against giants.
No wonder his body broke down.

I couldn’t really denigrate his career and say I expected more. Over achieved in my book.

Bad example Spud.

No it’s not a bad example.

There is no one who is was further up David’s a*se than me

I had what I considered realistic expectations of what he was going to and thus a totally one sided win against Audlley, a nightmare loss against kilt, and a ok win Against Chisora followed by 2 training camps and 2 pullouts for a Fury fight ….

Then a shot to bits David losing against Bellew told me David could achieved a lot more.,..

Have to agree to disagree
Whilst I’m not “in the know”
I can see quite clearly what’s in front of my face.
David Haye had a stellar career to be frank and earned good coin by carefully crafted matchmaking. (Delboy and Bellew etc).
At Cruiser he was excellent and at heavy he overachieved. Of course I know nothing.

[margaret thatcher]

tbf there was a LOT of hype around haye, many people saying he was gonna destroy klit and rid the division of boring giants etc. ended up giving his own very boring performance in a wide loss and never really sustained much momentum after that.

defo at hw i think he can qualify , clearly many ppl thought he was good enough to achieve more than he did

look at this, haye was favoured in the poll here and loads in the threads saying he'll blast klit out - the below is just a small sample. viewtopic.php?p=2937008&hilit=

Final prediction: Haye wins by stoppage between rounds 3 & 5.

Haye TKO round 2

Haye to win in the 3rd...

Haye in four. Speed and movement win this.

Haye in 3/4

Haye, TKO, Rd 5.

Haye TKO 11

I am absolutely certain that we will see Wlad beat very badly in this fight. I reckon Wlad will be on the deck four or five times when the referee stops it in the 5th.

I'll go for Haye in three rounds.

Bish Bash Bosh Haye TKO.

I predict a Corrie Sanders job, Klitschko to suffer an embarassing KO defeat to a miles faster opponent

Haye in 6.

haye in 4 th round.

Haye KO3. Too quick, Too powerful

Stylistically, Haye is all kinds of wrong for Wlad and Wlad knows it. Yep - too fast hits too hard

He beats Vitali on points

In my opinion its a career ending fight for Mr Wladimir

July 2nd, Haye will clean Wlad's clock.

I think haye will beat Wladimir.

Haye's hand speed and power will have Wlad asleep inside six rounds

I see Haye winning,.Sometimes fighters just 'know' when they can beat someone, and I think Haye has that feeling with Wlad.

[KiwiRider]

Easy. Audley Harrison. After seeing him in the Olympics I was telling everyone he’d dominate at heavyweight as a pro.

Ummm, like me when David Price turned pro
And back then, Price was tall, by the time he retired he was average

[banjo]

Haye did well for himself, I always thought he was more interested in being a celebrity than a serious sportsman though.

The David Beckham of boxing.

[Crease]

tbf there was a LOT of hype around haye, many people saying he was gonna destroy klit and rid the division of boring giants etc. ended up giving his own very boring performance in a wide loss and never really sustained much momentum after that.

defo at hw i think he can qualify , clearly many ppl thought he was good enough to achieve more than he did

Haye to win in the 3rd...

Yeah, I thought that Haye's lateral movement, reflexes and power could potentially overwhelm Wlad... But we'll never know now because of that busted toe. I do feel a wee bit cheated that it wasn't a 100% David Haye going in to the biggest fight of his life.

[Crease]

What went wrong with Frankie Gavin?

I always thought that Frankie was a Lightweight, but apparently he just couldn't make it and he looked small(ish) for a Light Welter, then reportedly he was struggling to make that weight too and he ended up at Welterweight were Kell Brook smashed the f out of him.

[Crease]

David Price

At one point, he was staying active and knocking pretty good fighters out left, right and centre in a very short order... John McDermott, Sam Sexton, Audley Harrison, then Matt Skelton - and that was big KO wins within ten months (2012)... You just don't see that kind of activity today, not as British and Commonwealth title level...

Looking back, now that his career is over, it's still amazing to think that he never won the European belt... I really thought he was on his way up and up...

[Crease]

Enzo Maccarinelli

Maybe a bit of a strange thing to say because he was a World Champion at Cruiserweight. But after he got flattened by The Hayemaker and David moved up to Heavyweight, I thought that Enzo (as one of the best fighters in that weight division at the time) would regain another World title...
But he spent time messing around jumping up to Heavyweight and then cutting weight down to Light Heavy - his career turned into a bit of a mess and he wasn't sure what direction he was going...
If I were his trainer or manager, I would just have kept him as Cruiserweight and not do all this weight jumping carry on. I suspect that it took a toll out of his body, but maybe I'm just being too kind to him...

[Controversial]

tbf there was a LOT of hype around haye, many people saying he was gonna destroy klit and rid the division of boring giants etc. ended up giving his own very boring performance in a wide loss and never really sustained much momentum after that.

defo at hw i think he can qualify , clearly many ppl thought he was good enough to achieve more than he did

look at this, haye was favoured in the poll here and loads in the threads saying he'll blast klit out - the below is just a small sample. viewtopic.php?p=2937008&hilit=

Final prediction: Haye wins by stoppage between rounds 3 & 5.

Haye TKO round 2

Haye to win in the 3rd...

Haye in four. Speed and movement win this.

Haye in 3/4

Haye, TKO, Rd 5.

Haye TKO 11

I am absolutely certain that we will see Wlad beat very badly in this fight. I reckon Wlad will be on the deck four or five times when the referee stops it in the 5th.

I'll go for Haye in three rounds.

Bish Bash Bosh Haye TKO.

I predict a Corrie Sanders job, Klitschko to suffer an embarassing KO defeat to a miles faster opponent

Haye in 6.

haye in 4 th round.

Haye KO3. Too quick, Too powerful

Stylistically, Haye is all kinds of wrong for Wlad and Wlad knows it. Yep - too fast hits too hard

He beats Vitali on points

In my opinion its a career ending fight for Mr Wladimir

July 2nd, Haye will clean Wlad's clock.

I think haye will beat Wladimir.

Haye's hand speed and power will have Wlad asleep inside six rounds

I see Haye winning,.Sometimes fighters just 'know' when they can beat someone, and I think Haye has that feeling with Wlad.

To be fair Haye would’ve won if he didn’t bruise his toe

[si7dog7]

tbf there was a LOT of hype around haye, many people saying he was gonna destroy klit and rid the division of boring giants etc. ended up giving his own very boring performance in a wide loss and never really sustained much momentum after that.

defo at hw i think he can qualify , clearly many ppl thought he was good enough to achieve more than he did

look at this, haye was favoured in the poll here and loads in the threads saying he'll blast klit out - the below is just a small sample. viewtopic.php?p=2937008&hilit=

Final prediction: Haye wins by stoppage between rounds 3 & 5.

Haye TKO round 2

Haye to win in the 3rd...

Haye in four. Speed and movement win this.

Haye in 3/4

Haye, TKO, Rd 5.

Haye TKO 11

I am absolutely certain that we will see Wlad beat very badly in this fight. I reckon Wlad will be on the deck four or five times when the referee stops it in the 5th.

I'll go for Haye in three rounds.

Bish Bash Bosh Haye TKO.

I predict a Corrie Sanders job, Klitschko to suffer an embarassing KO defeat to a miles faster opponent

Haye in 6.

haye in 4 th round.

Haye KO3. Too quick, Too powerful

Stylistically, Haye is all kinds of wrong for Wlad and Wlad knows it. Yep - too fast hits too hard

He beats Vitali on points

In my opinion its a career ending fight for Mr Wladimir

July 2nd, Haye will clean Wlad's clock.

I think haye will beat Wladimir.

Haye's hand speed and power will have Wlad asleep inside six rounds

I see Haye winning,.Sometimes fighters just 'know' when they can beat someone, and I think Haye has that feeling with Wlad.

To be fair Haye would’ve won if he didn’t bruise his toe

Nice to see the great and the good backed Haye. As did I. Coz Wlad really isn’t an ATG. Dominated a piss poor era and sadly got mauled by Luke and denied a rematch.

Haye bigged his match up with Wlad big style. Severed heads etc. he knows how to sell a fight and earn.
It’s why he moved up in the first place. Valueev was a no brainer. Then make as much money as possible.
“I’m so disappointed David didn’t meet expectations “
Oh please

[Controversial]

Nice to see the great and the good backed Haye. As did I. Coz Wlad really isn’t an ATG. Dominated a piss poor era and sadly got mauled by Luke and denied a rematch.

Haye bigged his match up with Wlad big style. Severed heads etc. he knows how to sell a fight and earn.
It’s why he moved up in the first place. Valueev was a no brainer. Then make as much money as possible.

Haye always wanted to get in and out and earn as much money as possible. Can’t really blame him for talking big to get the money fights. He was very injury prone though and had long periods of inactivity due to them.

[si7dog7]

Nice to see the great and the good backed Haye. As did I. Coz Wlad really isn’t an ATG. Dominated a piss poor era and sadly got mauled by Luke and denied a rematch.

Haye bigged his match up with Wlad big style. Severed heads etc. he knows how to sell a fight and earn.
It’s why he moved up in the first place. Valueev was a no brainer. Then make as much money as possible.

Haye always wanted to get in and out and earn as much money as possible. Can’t really blame him for talking big to get the money fights. He was very injury prone though and had long periods of inactivity due to them.

100%
Thank you
I thought I was going mad.

[Boxerbeetle]

Howard Eastman. I was totally convinced he'd win both his world title shots and was not shy about telling everyone about it Was gutted when he came up short each time, especially with the nagging feeling he could have done better if really went for it.

[si7dog7]

Howard Eastman. I was totally convinced he'd win both his world title shots and was not shy about telling everyone about it Was gutted when he came up short each time, especially with the nagging feeling he could have done better if really went for it.

Howard was a great guy. Dude.
Got to an amazing level.
Sometimes we have to accept it was not meant to be.

[margaret thatcher]

“I’m so disappointed David didn’t meet expectations “
Oh please

that's exactly what happened if someone thought haye was good enough to pull off results he never managed

not sure why it's so hard to grasp that someone can have a really good career and still fall short of someone's expectations - which may not have been the same as your expectations btw. it's all relative to what someone thought they could/would accomplish, simply saying 'oh but so and so won a title etc' misses the point.

[si7dog7]

Expected more?

Walk in these guys shoes for a bit.

Makes me laugh.

That’s all for this thread. Joke!

[margaret thatcher]

you're oddly sensitive about this

[Boxerbeetle]

Howard Eastman. I was totally convinced he'd win both his world title shots and was not shy about telling everyone about it Was gutted when he came up short each time, especially with the nagging feeling he could have done better if really went for it.

Howard was a great guy. Dude.
Got to an amazing level.
Sometimes we have to accept it was not meant to be.

I accept it fine, but my casual fan mates who I forced to stay up all night and listen to the Hopkins fight on 5 Live have never forgiven me.

[si7dog7]

Howard Eastman. I was totally convinced he'd win both his world title shots and was not shy about telling everyone about it Was gutted when he came up short each time, especially with the nagging feeling he could have done better if really went for it.

Howard was a great guy. Dude.
Got to an amazing level.
Sometimes we have to accept it was not meant to be.

I accept it fine, but my casual fan mates who I forced to stay up all night and listen to the Hopkins fight on 5 Live have never forgiven me.

They will. Eventually.
My fan boy guy was Tony Sibson. “He will beat Gagler” I said.
I’m still laughed at.

[si7dog7]

Howard was a great guy. Dude.
Got to an amazing level.
Sometimes we have to accept it was not meant to be.

I accept it fine, but my casual fan mates who I forced to stay up all night and listen to the Hopkins fight on 5 Live have never forgiven me.

They will. Eventually.
My fan boy guy was Tony Sibson. “He will beat Gagler” I said.
I’m still laughed at.

Hagler. Gagler

[si7dog7]

I also stand by naming BJS …

A lot more was expected of him than just a one sided defeat against the cheating mexican

Oh dear!