Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[si7dog7]

What's the odds on a draw? Worth 20 quid I'm sure

Coco. I’m thinking the exact same damn thing.

[jwfg]

One thing is, there's no dog in Fury, he certainly won't capitulate meekly.

100% agree. Fury has shown a lot of guts and grit. He'll give it his all, but he's a high mileage vehicle. He's just been decked by a zero fight novice. Usyk's going to dominate this fight.

I think the Zero fight novice is a little misleading, I mean NGannou knows how to punch.

I think more the worry, was the fact that Fury's timing looked really bad, he didn't seem to be able to find the gaps for his own shots, and was off the pace the entire fight.

I remember a quote by holyfield, I think it was one of the fights he had after Valuev, near the tail end of his career and he said something along the lines of "I can still see the gaps, but I just can't pull the trigger quick enough, and by the time I do, it's gone."

That's what happens to fighters as they age, especially ones who haven't lived the life.

I agree with the Holyfield thing, but not Ngannou. Look what AJ did to him. No way Francis would have done that to Usyk, prepared or not.

[coneye]

Like everyone else , i've been giving this fight a lot of thought who wins , how they win ect ect . I keep thinking to start with Fury ducked and dived his whole carreer , his best wins being an old champ when he was on the boar meat who he then refused a rematch , followed by Wilder who turns out is a bit rubbish anyway . So based on this Usyk quite easy .

Then i think Usyk , his best wins have to be AJ but Aj is slow and stiff , on the other hand Chisora took it to him with some degree of success , DD did hurt him with a body shot , and size does matter , which is in Furys favor . Because after all Fury handled Chisora with ease , and if we were calling Fury -- DD it would be a no brainer 100% would probably pick Fury in an easy win

So after much careful consideration i've come to the conclusion ,, were 4 days away and i still hav'nt got a clue

[SeanBrennan]

I've got a strange feeling that Usyk is going to take center ring and really push the pace from the third round.

I am leaning towards this. And great quote from after the Valuev fight from Holyfield. I remember watching it and despite the decline still had him winning that one. I think that was his last meaningful performance.

[jamesmcdonnell]

100% agree. Fury has shown a lot of guts and grit. He'll give it his all, but he's a high mileage vehicle. He's just been decked by a zero fight novice. Usyk's going to dominate this fight.

I think the Zero fight novice is a little misleading, I mean NGannou knows how to punch.

I think more the worry, was the fact that Fury's timing looked really bad, he didn't seem to be able to find the gaps for his own shots, and was off the pace the entire fight.

I remember a quote by holyfield, I think it was one of the fights he had after Valuev, near the tail end of his career and he said something along the lines of "I can still see the gaps, but I just can't pull the trigger quick enough, and by the time I do, it's gone."

That's what happens to fighters as they age, especially ones who haven't lived the life.

I agree with the Holyfield thing, but not Ngannou. Look what AJ did to him. No way Francis would have done that to Usyk, prepared or not.

I am saying it's possible Fury's reflexes are gone, and that's why he looked so poor, if so, he is doomed against Usyk.

[Nightmare Roy]

Hey Big Doofus, I'll make you a bet. Loser leaves the forum forever. I pick Usyk, you have Luke.

What do you say Doof?

Fury vs Usyk
You vs Me
John Fury vs Out of Shape, Balding Jew.

You up for it?

The losers are the ones who claimed that Fury was too scared to fight.
After the fight, biglennox, nightmareroy, TheGratest and yourself leaving would improve the forum.

Why did you nut that 12 year old? You big fanny.

[Redback Rasta]

I've no idea how this will play out, I keep changing my mind!

It could play out in so many different ways and I think those claiming it will be some kind of one sided beatdown are in for a shock.

[Redback Rasta]

What's the odds on a draw? Worth 20 quid I'm sure

Was looking at that and between searches, the odds for the draw had reduced. Suggests to me people are having a dabble on that outcome.

[MightyWarrior]

I don’t know if it’s an optical illusion, but Fury looks suddenly much older about the face to me - when he turned up with the hat yesterday. A bit worn out..

Let’s see how he looks at the weigh in, maybe he just hasn’t slept much
Or it could be drastic weight loss

But this week I’ve started to realise the obvious, he’s facing a P4P talent at the peak of his powers who’s probably gonna beat him handily.

And yet the bookies have it evens..

[JC]

What's the odds on a draw? Worth 20 quid I'm sure

Was looking at that and between searches, the odds for the draw had reduced. Suggests to me people are having a dabble on that outcome.

It’s 12/1 on Skybet, which is short as you ever see on a draw in a fight.

[Counter-puncher]

Like everyone else , i've been giving this fight a lot of thought who wins , how they win ect ect . I keep thinking to start with Fury ducked and dived his whole carreer , his best wins being an old champ when he was on the boar meat who he then refused a rematch , followed by Wilder who turns out is a bit rubbish anyway . So based on this Usyk quite easy .

Then i think Usyk , his best wins have to be AJ but Aj is slow and stiff , on the other hand Chisora took it to him with some degree of success , DD did hurt him with a body shot , and size does matter , which is in Furys favor . Because after all Fury handled Chisora with ease , and if we were calling Fury -- DD it would be a no brainer 100% would probably pick Fury in an easy win

So after much careful consideration i've come to the conclusion ,, were 4 days away and i still hav'nt got a clue

I am pretty sure Usyk will win, but at the same time fck knows I’m wrong all the time

[Frostieballs]

I don’t know if it’s an optical illusion, but Fury looks suddenly much older about the face to me - when he turned up with the hat yesterday. A bit worn out..

Let’s see how he looks at the weigh in, maybe he just hasn’t slept much
Or it could be drastic weight loss

But this week I’ve started to realise the obvious, he’s facing a P4P talent at the peak of his powers who’s probably gonna beat him handily.

And yet the bookies have it evens..

I’ve just backed Usyk at Evens (actually got 11/10 with a Paddy Power bet boost).

Going on the ‘form guide’ this is outrageous value, although I fully appreciate Fury can have something of the miracle man about him.

[MightyWarrior]

Yeh saw the same on 365….surprised.
But I guess they’re thinking the same as everyone else, in that we can’t really trust the judges can we?

And the old face I’m talking about, I think is the weight loss..

[Ruthless-RKO]

[tigermoth87]

Usyk will win in the eyes of everyone except the corrupt judged

We are going to see a Canelo style robbery on the cards here

[jamesmcdonnell]

Saw a clip of Tyson posing with his top off, have to say, don't think he looks in good nick at all. He still had really weirdly shaped love handles, and he had loads of slack skin, which suggests he lost lots of weight very very quickly. which isn't a good thing.

He doesn't look particularly strong in the arms and shoulders - I undestand it's not bodybuilding, but he doesn't look like he's in top condition, I wonder if he's gone for weight loss, to come in light and with improved stamina, if so, suggests he is looking to fight at a pace, to try and match Usyk.

Intriguing fight, I am going to have to go with Usyk, looking at the form guide. The only outlier is their respective performances against Chisora, but styles make fights, and also Usyk was still feeling his way into the heavyweight division, and I think he was assessing how he could handle a big full blown heavyweight..

Bring it on!

[cormack]

have they announced the judges yet ?

[TBA]

I don’t know if it’s an optical illusion, but Fury looks suddenly much older about the face to me - when he turned up with the hat yesterday. A bit worn out..

Let’s see how he looks at the weigh in, maybe he just hasn’t slept much
Or it could be drastic weight loss

But this week I’ve started to realise the obvious, he’s facing a P4P talent at the peak of his powers who’s probably gonna beat him handily.

And yet the bookies have it evens..

Losing the beard will do that illusion.

[Gran Hermano]

I strongly fancied Usyk to win this for a while, but lack of VADA testing and the shape Fury appears to be in is making me less confident.

No way in the world Fury wins this fight.

I expect a robbery. Fury is at the Canelo stage of entering each fight with a 3 round head start

This way inclined myself now tbh. The videos of Turki and Fury together. Turki gushing with praise for Fury how hes the jewel in the crown of boxing or some other shit and the potential Fury v Joshua fight means Fury will win this on the scorecards. Usyk needs to stop him.

[jamesmcdonnell]

have they announced the judges yet ?

Some blokes named John, Peter and Tommy.

[cormack]

have they announced the judges yet ?

Some blokes named John, Peter and Tommy.

discovered in a cave living off bin scraps and hedghogs .

[smiling assassin]

Fury wins and will then retire. We won’t see the Joshua fight

[JamesPhilips]

Saw a clip of Tyson posing with his top off, have to say, don't think he looks in good nick at all. He still had really weirdly shaped love handles, and he had loads of slack skin, which suggests he lost lots of weight very very quickly. which isn't a good thing.

He doesn't look particularly strong in the arms and shoulders - I undestand it's not bodybuilding, but he doesn't look like he's in top condition, I wonder if he's gone for weight loss, to come in light and with improved stamina, if so, suggests he is looking to fight at a pace, to try and match Usyk.

Intriguing fight, I am going to have to go with Usyk, looking at the form guide. The only outlier is their respective performances against Chisora, but styles make fights, and also Usyk was still feeling his way into the heavyweight division, and I think he was assessing how he could handle a big full blown heavyweight..

Bring it on!

Agree. Good points. I just have this gut feeling that Usyk will be robbed on points

[jwfg]

Saw a clip of Tyson posing with his top off, have to say, don't think he looks in good nick at all. He still had really weirdly shaped love handles, and he had loads of slack skin, which suggests he lost lots of weight very very quickly. which isn't a good thing.

He doesn't look particularly strong in the arms and shoulders - I undestand it's not bodybuilding, but he doesn't look like he's in top condition, I wonder if he's gone for weight loss, to come in light and with improved stamina, if so, suggests he is looking to fight at a pace, to try and match Usyk.

Intriguing fight, I am going to have to go with Usyk, looking at the form guide. The only outlier is their respective performances against Chisora, but styles make fights, and also Usyk was still feeling his way into the heavyweight division, and I think he was assessing how he could handle a big full blown heavyweight..

Bring it on!

Whether you like it or not, I class you as the resident BoxRec Strength and Conditioning expert, so it's interesting to read your point of view,

[Ezzard]

My main scenario is a fencing match where rounds are won by a couple of quality jabs. Very little in it. Everyone will argue for their man and nothing will be definitive about the result.

I give that about a 70% chance.

The 30% scenario is where Fury is worn out trying to keep up with Usyk and is stopped late.

Both are top operators.