BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Chisora

[margaret thatcher]

my man greg hating on otter da beast, living rent free in that head baby

[HomicideHenry]

It was Pulev, then a loss to Fury, then Washington, then Joyce.
I get what your saying Henry, but those 3 recent wins are actually good when your talking about the guys who are #10-15 in our list.

True, but considering his age and him wanting Whyte next (another heavyweight in limbo) I think it's more important rewarding heavyweights who are doing meaningful and/or consequential matches.

I mean can you see him facing for the title again? He was essentially gifted the Fury title shot to begin with. I can't see him facing the Fury-Usyk 2 winner or the Joshua-Dubois winner. Who would be next after Whyte if Chisora could win? Parker? Ruiz? Surely by that time his career would effectively be over with unless he wanted to cash out against Ngannou.

If he were to be let in let him be #15 so it doesn't interfere with contenders with possible championship fights in their future.

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all

“More important to reward heavyweights in meaningfull/consequential matches”…

Chis just beat a guy in our top 10…. 3 days ago…

Wallin has litraly never done that. Actualy most of the people on this list have never done that.

Has wallin beat a legit top 25? A legit top 50 (I defiantly had gassiev top 50 but given his nothing at heavyweight and huge layoffs it was at least a bit controversial…)

You all put Joyce into the top ten on the basis of beating Kash Ali after getting knocked out twice by Zhang? Ali should've never moved the needle for Joyce considering Ali has literally done nothing of consequence since he tried to bite Price's nipple off.

If Joyce was top 10 before Zhang, the two kayo losses ought to have knocked him out of the top ten or fifteen. Or should have anyways, because it demonstrated he wasn't world class but European level.

You won't get much argument from me on Wallin. The Fury fight was overblown. He was basically European level. Perhaps Wallin and Joyce ought to battle it out.

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all

[KiwiRider]

Joyce not just beating, but stopping Parker is still better than anything Ajagba has done.
Sure if they rematched I know who my money is on, but that win holds Joyce for now.

[joshj909]

Joyce not just beating, but stopping Parker is still better than anything Ajagba has done.
Sure if they rematched I know who my money is on, but that win holds Joyce for now.

In beating Parker, Joyce arguably holds the best win by someone not named Usyk in the past 2 years.

[DrDuke]

Neither Joyce and Chisora looked good today.

Joyce - 15
Chisora - 14

Others that Joyce was ahead of, up one

This.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Although he won, i was far from impressed with Chisora

[chinarich]

I’d drop Joyce out completely, he can’t stay in on the basis of beating Parker two years ago. I’d slot Chisora in at 12 ahead of Ajagba and Wallin.

[ironbeard]

Ruiz or Miller knock Joyce out of the 15th spot this weekend, imo.

[stpeach]

Updated ranking:
Image Oleksandr Usyk - 22(14) 0 0 - next fight: 21.12.2024 vs. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 1(0) 1 - (#2)

2. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 21.12.2024 vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 22(14) 0 0 - (Image)

3. Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 21.09.2024 vs. Daniel Dubois - 21(20) 2(2) 0 - (#6)

4. Joseph Parker - 35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. Zhilei Zhang - 25(22) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

6. Daniel Dubois - 21(20) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 21.09.2024 vs. Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - (#3)

7. Agit Kabayel - 25(17) 0(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Filip Hrgovic - 17(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 03.08.2024 vs. Jared Anderson - 17(15) 0 0 - (#12)

10. Derek Chisora

11. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Jared Anderson - 17(15) 0 0 - next fight: 03.08.2024 vs. Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - (#10)

13. Efe Ajagba - 20(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Otto Wallin - 27(15) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. VACANT
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Joyce out completely.

If I have to vote someone in at 15 he would be
Arslanbek Makhmudov but I'd rather him earn it by beating Vianello

[joshj909]

Ruiz/Miller winner will earn the final spot in the top 15

[KiwiRider]

Ruiz/Miller winner will earn the final spot in the top 15

True, easy fix there.

[Ruthless-RKO]

The vote is over.

- Chisora re-enters at #13
- Joyce slips to #15

Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk - 22(14) 0 0 - next fight: 21.12.2024 vs. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 1(0) 1 - (#2)

2. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 21.12.2024 vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 22(14) 0 0 - ()

3. Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 21.09.2024 vs. Daniel Dubois - 21(20) 2(2) 0 - (#6)

4. Joseph Parker - 35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. Zhilei Zhang - 25(22) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

6. Daniel Dubois - 21(20) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 21.09.2024 vs. Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - (#3)

7. Agit Kabayel - 25(17) 0(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Filip Hrgovic - 17(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 03.08.2024 vs. Jared Anderson - 17(15) 0 0 - (#12)

10. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Jared Anderson - 17(15) 0 0 - next fight: 03.08.2024 vs. Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - (#10)

12. Efe Ajagba - 20(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Dereck Chisora - 35(23) 13(4) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Otto Wallin - 27(15) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Joe Joyce - 16(15) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA
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[Ruthless-RKO]

if we enter Miller or Ruiz, it will knock Joyce out

[gregregegg]

if we enter Miller or Ruiz, it will knock Joyce out

No it won’t. Miller will likely go in, bakole will go in and jah will go out. Still leaving Joyce in… unless people put Ruiz and miller in, but personally I wouldent put Ruiz in if I thought he lost.