How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
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Boxing Writer
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How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
I know only one. And not only he retired, but he also won the world title while having more losses than wins in his record. I'll let you guess who is this guy, but I didn't post it in the Trivia thread because I have a question myself, on which I don't have an answer yet: how many world champions have retired with negative win/loss ratio?
Re: How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
There's only one... but since I already know the answer to this question, I'll let someone else answer it.Boxing Writer wrote:I know only one. And not only he retired, but he also won the world title while having more losses than wins in his record. I'll let you guess who is this guy, but I didn't post it in the Trivia thread because I have a question myself, on which I don't have an answer yet: how many world champions have retired with negative win/loss ratio?
(The man we're looking for retired with 4 more losses than wins)
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Re: How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
Bundana wrote:There's only one... but since I already know the answer to this question, I'll let someone else answer it.Boxing Writer wrote:I know only one. And not only he retired, but he also won the world title while having more losses than wins in his record. I'll let you guess who is this guy, but I didn't post it in the Trivia thread because I have a question myself, on which I don't have an answer yet: how many world champions have retired with negative win/loss ratio?
(The man we're looking for retired with 4 more losses than wins)
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Re: How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
Francisco Quiroz
Suspect a few have sub 50% records, like Manny Melchor
Suspect a few have sub 50% records, like Manny Melchor
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Some well know boxers had a lot of losses---but I can’t think of any very famous fighters with more losses than wins... Records are interesting, but they tell you more about consistency and the will to win ...and also about cream-puff opponents -- than they tell you about skills
Leon Spinks was 26-17-3… Luis Ramon Campas had 17 losses but won his first 56 fights… Ezzard Charles had 25 losses. Jim Braddock had 24 losses. Henry Armstrong had 21 losses… Archie Moore had 23 losses… Joey Giardello had 26 losses... Robinson, LaMotta, and Dick Tiger had 19 losses each… Willie Pep had 11 losses... Eder Jofre and Vitali Klitschko had 2 losses each… Gene Tunney and Salvador Sanchez had 1 loss each… Ricardo Lopez had 0 losses and a draw.. Joe Calzaghe, Floyd Mayweather, and Rocky Marciano had 0 losses and 0 draws each – but I don’t see Calzaghe or Marciano as among the most highly skilled.
Not considering their records, I think Lomachenko, Mayweather, Sanchez, Tunney, and Pep were among the most skilled boxers who ever stepped into a ring.
Leon Spinks was 26-17-3… Luis Ramon Campas had 17 losses but won his first 56 fights… Ezzard Charles had 25 losses. Jim Braddock had 24 losses. Henry Armstrong had 21 losses… Archie Moore had 23 losses… Joey Giardello had 26 losses... Robinson, LaMotta, and Dick Tiger had 19 losses each… Willie Pep had 11 losses... Eder Jofre and Vitali Klitschko had 2 losses each… Gene Tunney and Salvador Sanchez had 1 loss each… Ricardo Lopez had 0 losses and a draw.. Joe Calzaghe, Floyd Mayweather, and Rocky Marciano had 0 losses and 0 draws each – but I don’t see Calzaghe or Marciano as among the most highly skilled.
Not considering their records, I think Lomachenko, Mayweather, Sanchez, Tunney, and Pep were among the most skilled boxers who ever stepped into a ring.
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Re: How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
Boxing Prospect wrote:Francisco Quiroz
Suspect a few have sub 50% records, like Manny Melchor
Good answer. 11-15
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Re: How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
Juan Polo Perez
Was 46-46-4 at retirement.
Was 46-46-4 at retirement.
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Kelvin Seabrooks 28-22 .
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Re: How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
said it before, and will say it again.
I think any and all pro fights after age 36 yrs
should be re-moved from any professional boxers records.
so which "Hall of Famers" would benifit the most from that,
do you think ?
I think any and all pro fights after age 36 yrs
should be re-moved from any professional boxers records.
so which "Hall of Famers" would benifit the most from that,
do you think ?
Re: How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
No. Truth, just because it's inconvenient still shouldn't be ignored. Each great fighter who fights on past his best, and winds up with several losses is a lesson to future fighters of why you shouldn't do that. In spite of that very few heed the lesson. I think at some point a lot of these fighters see Boxing for what it is, and their hearts and minds aren't as into it as well as their bodies.Caractacus wrote: ↑25 Sep 2024, 13:19 said it before, and will say it again.
I think any and all pro fights after age 36 yrs
should be re-moved from any professional boxers records.
so which "Hall of Famers" would benifit the most from that,
do you think ?
But no, you can't whitewash history. True fight fans will always understand the difference between a great fighter in his prime, and a great fighter past his prime. You'll have your ignoramus fans who will say "Well Mayweather has 0 losses and Robinson has 19 so clearly Mayweather is better", but to really understand Boxing is to understand all the subtleties and nuances. If all you understand is the stuff you see with Blinking Neon Lights. You're missing a lot of the game.
Re: How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
It's not that simple. Many fighters suffer losses on the way up and develop that way. Freddie Pendleton was 32-17-4 when he won the IBF lightweight title. Uriah Grant won his world title at 25-12. Jong Kwan Chung of Korea picked up the IBF flyweight belt at 12-8-4.Caractacus wrote: ↑25 Sep 2024, 13:19 said it before, and will say it again.
I think any and all pro fights after age 36 yrs
should be re-moved from any professional boxers records.
so which "Hall of Famers" would benifit the most from that,
do you think ?
Re: How many world champions had more losses than wins in their record?
Beterbiev is 39. So his most recent title fights shouldn’t be on his record? Like if he beats Bivol? Sergio Martinez and Omar Narváez were defending their belts at almost 40. Fights after 36 shouldn’t count?Caractacus wrote: ↑25 Sep 2024, 13:19 said it before, and will say it again.
I think any and all pro fights after age 36 yrs
should be re-moved from any professional boxers records.
so which "Hall of Famers" would benifit the most from that,
do you think ?