Artur Beterbiev vs. Dmitry Bivol Who do YOU think won that fight?

Who won?

Beterbiev
32
52%
Bivol
30
48%
 
Total votes: 62

apollo creed
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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Dmitry Bivol Who do YOU think won that fight?

Post by apollo creed »

The question is if it would be a rematch bc I don't think this version of Canelo would want to fight a beast like Artur, even if Artur is 40. I mean Artur doesn't have too many good money options at 175 beside the Bivol rematch or Bena/Morrell winner.
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Hearn says that there will be a rematch: https://boxing-social.com/news/artur-be ... rld-title/
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It’s unbelievable how many people, on a boxing forum, have Beterbiev as a winner.
FYI in boxing you don’t win by ‘appearing dominant’. You don’t win because you’re a physically stronger man. You win by winning exchanges and by winning rounds.
Let me decipher the picture of the said fight. Beterbiev is a guy with a very good power and a very good chin. He has a solid skill set on top of that but it’s the combination of power, physical strength and chin that makes the impression of ‘dominance’. Other than that, Bivol was better in every single aspect of the game. Footwork, hand speed, variety of punches/combos, defence (compare connection rates as per CompuBox), ring IQ - you name them.
Bivol 7:5, and I am being conservative.
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Post by margaret thatcher »

bert a fair winner , very close fight with lots of swing rounds. had bivol ahead a couple going into the last 3, but had bert sweeping those to edge it
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TempleSlave wrote: 26 Oct 2024, 18:06 It’s unbelievable how many people, on a boxing forum, have Beterbiev as a winner.
FYI in boxing you don’t win by ‘appearing dominant’. You don’t win because you’re a physically stronger man. You win by winning exchanges and by winning rounds.
Let me decipher the picture of the said fight. Beterbiev is a guy with a very good power and a very good chin. He has a solid skill set on top of that but it’s the combination of power, physical strength and chin that makes the impression of ‘dominance’. Other than that, Bivol was better in every single aspect of the game. Footwork, hand speed, variety of punches/combos, defence (compare connection rates as per CompuBox), ring IQ - you name them.
Bivol 7:5, and I am being conservative.
It was remarkable what happened all over the internet on the night of that fight, and the following day: People who wanted to convince you that Beterbiev really deserved the decision win would post video clips of Bivol blocking a series of punches. That was their support for their position. I was always like, "Wait, you're arguing in support of Beterbiev, here, right? So do you have clips of him, you know, landing his punches? Like cleanly, clearly landing impressive shots?" Very unusual situation.
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Post by Evander »

squiggy wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 09:36
TempleSlave wrote: 26 Oct 2024, 18:06 It’s unbelievable how many people, on a boxing forum, have Beterbiev as a winner.
FYI in boxing you don’t win by ‘appearing dominant’. You don’t win because you’re a physically stronger man. You win by winning exchanges and by winning rounds.
Let me decipher the picture of the said fight. Beterbiev is a guy with a very good power and a very good chin. He has a solid skill set on top of that but it’s the combination of power, physical strength and chin that makes the impression of ‘dominance’. Other than that, Bivol was better in every single aspect of the game. Footwork, hand speed, variety of punches/combos, defence (compare connection rates as per CompuBox), ring IQ - you name them.
Bivol 7:5, and I am being conservative.
It was remarkable what happened all over the internet on the night of that fight, and the following day: People who wanted to convince you that Beterbiev really deserved the decision win would post video clips of Bivol blocking a series of punches. That was their support for their position. I was always like, "Wait, you're arguing in support of Beterbiev, here, right? So do you have clips of him, you know, landing his punches? Like cleanly, clearly landing impressive shots?" Very unusual situation.
Run that one by me again
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Post by squiggy »

It made sense as written.
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Post by margaret thatcher »

squiggy wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 09:36
TempleSlave wrote: 26 Oct 2024, 18:06 It’s unbelievable how many people, on a boxing forum, have Beterbiev as a winner.
FYI in boxing you don’t win by ‘appearing dominant’. You don’t win because you’re a physically stronger man. You win by winning exchanges and by winning rounds.
Let me decipher the picture of the said fight. Beterbiev is a guy with a very good power and a very good chin. He has a solid skill set on top of that but it’s the combination of power, physical strength and chin that makes the impression of ‘dominance’. Other than that, Bivol was better in every single aspect of the game. Footwork, hand speed, variety of punches/combos, defence (compare connection rates as per CompuBox), ring IQ - you name them.
Bivol 7:5, and I am being conservative.
It was remarkable what happened all over the internet on the night of that fight, and the following day: People who wanted to convince you that Beterbiev really deserved the decision win would post video clips of Bivol blocking a series of punches. That was their support for their position. I was always like, "Wait, you're arguing in support of Beterbiev, here, right? So do you have clips of him, you know, landing his punches? Like cleanly, clearly landing impressive shots?" Very unusual situation.
sounds like 12-0 bivol then :lol:
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Post by joshj909 »

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Yeah, impossible that Beterbiev could have won because Bivol blocked all his punches. I guess Beterbiev didn't catch Bivol and have him in trouble twice either?

It was a close fight, there were lots of close rounds, it was no robbery. If Bivol wanted to solidify his claim to winning the fight he should have done more. I don't think either could complain about not getting their arm lifted. A draw would've been the fairest result but boxing is decided by rounds, not fairness.
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Post by Thomastearns »

squiggy wrote: 27 Oct 2024, 09:36
TempleSlave wrote: 26 Oct 2024, 18:06 It’s unbelievable how many people, on a boxing forum, have Beterbiev as a winner.
FYI in boxing you don’t win by ‘appearing dominant’. You don’t win because you’re a physically stronger man. You win by winning exchanges and by winning rounds.
Let me decipher the picture of the said fight. Beterbiev is a guy with a very good power and a very good chin. He has a solid skill set on top of that but it’s the combination of power, physical strength and chin that makes the impression of ‘dominance’. Other than that, Bivol was better in every single aspect of the game. Footwork, hand speed, variety of punches/combos, defence (compare connection rates as per CompuBox), ring IQ - you name them.
Bivol 7:5, and I am being conservative.
It was remarkable what happened all over the internet on the night of that fight, and the following day: People who wanted to convince you that Beterbiev really deserved the decision win would post video clips of Bivol blocking a series of punches. That was their support for their position. I was always like, "Wait, you're arguing in support of Beterbiev, here, right? So do you have clips of him, you know, landing his punches? Like cleanly, clearly landing impressive shots?" Very unusual situation.

Those are the details, but to the untrained eye it did look like Beterbiev was the more dominating fighter.

Bivol was also clearly struggling towards the end. All those doubts over Beterbiev's age proved unfounded.

Nevertheless, the judges are not supposed to be untrained, and should have been able to score the fight accordingly.

They didn't.

I think the vast majority of viewers would have been happier with a draw.
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