Round-by-Round: Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson | Netflix - 15 November 2024

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Re: Round-by-Round: Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson | Netflix - 15 November 2024

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Taansend wrote: 17 Nov 2024, 13:05 Am I right in thinking that Jake Paul is the first person to outpoint Mike Tyson....?

Therefore making him a better pure boxer than Lewis, Holyfield , Douglas & even Danny Williams :oo
KO > outpoint ??

Pure boxer.. yh sure. Jake Paul is probably ahead
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orbtastic wrote: 17 Nov 2024, 13:32 Mike got more than 200k per punch thrown. Not bad going. Or over a million per punch landed if you want to look at it that way.
TBF there are probably a lot of people who would pay one million dollars to punch Paul in the face
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 06:12
That didn't stop him from blasting out David Haye when it was clear Haye was literally hobbling on one leg. I used to like Bellew but he's a real annoyance sometimes.

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I didn’t realise RJJ had another pro fight in 2023 and lost to someone making their debut.
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Controversial wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 07:23 I didn’t realise RJJ had another pro fight in 2023 and lost to someone making their debut.
Former UFC fighter he was. Pettis.

Don't know why RJJ did that. now he's in double figure losses.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 08:26
Controversial wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 07:23 I didn’t realise RJJ had another pro fight in 2023 and lost to someone making their debut.
Former UFC fighter he was. Pettis.

Don't know why RJJ did that. now he's in double figure losses.
I think fans care more about fighters records than they do. But yeah a totally pointless fight, I bet he wouldn’t turn down fighting JP either.
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Controversial wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 07:23 I didn’t realise RJJ had another pro fight in 2023 and lost to someone making their debut.
An interesting thing that that shows is that a recently retired taekwondo and Jiu-Jitsu based MMA guy who was already well past his best moving up over 40 lbs will beat a 55 year old hall of fame boxer in his relatively natural weight class.

Age is a more important factor that skill. There will be a crossover point though which will depend on the skill and age. Mike Tyson could be, and likely is, Jake Paul's worst win since his first three fights.
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joshj909 wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 09:00
Controversial wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 07:23 I didn’t realise RJJ had another pro fight in 2023 and lost to someone making their debut.
An interesting thing that that shows is that a recently retired taekwondo and Jiu-Jitsu based MMA guy who was already well past his best moving up over 40 lbs will beat a 55 year old hall of fame boxer in his relatively natural weight class.

Age is a more important factor that skill. There will be a crossover point though which will depend on the skill and age. Mike Tyson could be, and likely is, Jake Paul's worst win since his first three fights.
Yep, I hadn’t heard of Pettis before but as you say he was a lower weight MMA fighter on the decline and still beat arguably one of the greatest boxers of modern times.
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Tbf Roy was basically shot from Tarver onwards. I still remember his failed attempts at the cruiserweight title getting annihilated by Enzo and Denis Lebedev.

He was definitely shot after that, but still hung around occasionally beating journeymen and fringe contenders in unspectacular fights.



Maybe this was his last decent win. Even at that Gunn had already lost to equally shot James Toney (KO5) and would also lose to beyond shot Glen Johnson after this. He (Roy) was 48 years old at the time and stopped him basically in the 7th round.



The fact that Roy kept on boxing until 2023 when he started boxing pro in 1989 is kinda criminal. Pettis himself was "long in the tooth" as his MMA career was winding down losing 4 of his last 5 fights. Very sad.

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HomicideHenry wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 09:57 Tbf Roy was basically shot from Tarver onwards. I still remember his failed attempts at the cruiserweight title getting annihilated by Enzo and Denis Lebedev.

Tyson was pretty much done as a top tier HW in 1997 after losing to Holyfield.
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Controversial wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 10:15
HomicideHenry wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 09:57 Tbf Roy was basically shot from Tarver onwards. I still remember his failed attempts at the cruiserweight title getting annihilated by Enzo and Denis Lebedev.

Tyson was pretty much done as a top tier HW in 1997 after losing to Holyfield.
Pretty much accurate.

The post Holyfield years were largely a freakshow. Somehow though Tyson conned all of us that Frans Botha, Lou Savarese, Brian Nielsen, Orlin Norris and Julius Francis actually was proper preparation for Lennox Lewis. Post Lewis is too sad to talk about.

Although I am reminded of a quote that he said at the post fight press conference when he lost to Kevin McBride: "My career was over in 1990 when I lost to Buster Douglas." In a lot of ways I think what he said was true.

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Clip doing the rounds showing Tyson pulling his punches, to be fair it does look like he did in this clip

https://x.com/proxcee/status/1858946269 ... 0V5TcR99OQ
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Controversial wrote: 20 Nov 2024, 16:25 Clip doing the rounds showing Tyson pulling his punches, to be fair it does look like he did in this clip

https://x.com/proxcee/status/1858946269 ... 0V5TcR99OQ
It's called "unable to pull the trigger". This world is getting dumber by the minute. Anyone who saw that fight and thought Tyson was holding back is in need for very very strong glasses.
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hhaehre wrote: 20 Nov 2024, 19:00
Controversial wrote: 20 Nov 2024, 16:25 Clip doing the rounds showing Tyson pulling his punches, to be fair it does look like he did in this clip

https://x.com/proxcee/status/1858946269 ... 0V5TcR99OQ
It's called "unable to pull the trigger". This world is getting dumber by the minute. Anyone who saw that fight and thought Tyson was holding back is in need for very very strong glasses.
I don’t think he was holding back, he just looked like an old man to me but I can see how this clip can make it look like he was.
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Apparently 60 million turned into it, I did but it was because of Tyson not Paul, he will struggle to ever do numbers like that again.
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it was huge. loads of rando non boxing people i know and on non boxing forums were talking about. far more than usyk-fury, fury-wilder, garcia-davis, etc

funnily enough even most of them seemed to realize ahead of time it was a farce fight, but it still was huge anyway

obviously tyson played a huge part, non of paul's other fights got anywhere near the attention, i think one of his recent ones did like 600k viewers
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margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Nov 2024, 21:16 it was huge. loads of rando non boxing people i know and on non boxing forums were talking about. far more than usyk-fury, fury-wilder, garcia-davis, etc

funnily enough even most of them seemed to realize ahead of time it was a farce fight, but it still was huge anyway

obviously tyson played a huge part, non of paul's other fights got anywhere near the attention, i think one of his recent ones did like 600k viewers
I read somewhere that Jake Paul's fight against Mike Perry did 50,000 pay per view buys.

I guess he will need a dance partner with the charisma of Connor McGregor to generate big numbers. But, McGregor will be seen as another older, undersized, MMA fighter and the Perry figures suggest that there might not be the same appetite for it as there once was.
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Jake Paul’s fan base largely hasn’t got the parental access to purchase ppvs. He’s made his fortune using a free streaming platform.

Many homes have Netflix anyway, so I’m sure he’ll do okay on a “free” stream set up.

Are the 12/13 year olds going to know and be allowed to buy ppvs… probably not.
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stujones wrote: 21 Nov 2024, 06:52 Jake Paul’s fan base largely hasn’t got the parental access to purchase ppvs. He’s made his fortune using a free streaming platform.

Many homes have Netflix anyway, so I’m sure he’ll do okay on a “free” stream set up.

Are the 12/13 year olds going to know and be allowed to buy ppvs… probably not.
Didn’t they make a lot of the money from all the new Netflix accounts purchased to watch this fight? I wouldn’t be surprised it Netflix add a PPV element to their streams or have a more expensive premium account that includes sports.
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Controversial wrote: 21 Nov 2024, 07:05
stujones wrote: 21 Nov 2024, 06:52 Jake Paul’s fan base largely hasn’t got the parental access to purchase ppvs. He’s made his fortune using a free streaming platform.

Many homes have Netflix anyway, so I’m sure he’ll do okay on a “free” stream set up.

Are the 12/13 year olds going to know and be allowed to buy ppvs… probably not.
Didn’t they make a lot of the money from all the new Netflix accounts purchased to watch this fight? I wouldn’t be surprised it Netflix add a PPV element to their streams or have a more expensive premium account that includes sports.
Oh yes, agree can see that happening in the future. Or they might just up their general subscription cost.

I do hope they don't do a dazn anyway.

I will be interesting how much of the viewing figures were down to Paul or down to Tyson. Jake Paul vs some non known MMA fighter (with no appeal to sports fans or Jake Paul fans) isn't going to do aswell as Paul vs Tyson (especially with Paul being able to hype up Tyson in the build up).

Jake Paul vs some kind of known quantity - whether that is a has been boxer - who is known or a a celebrity will do much better.

Not convinced though Tyson vs someone not that well known would do particularly well. E.g. How would Tyson vs Bruno 3 do. I think it is unfair to compare it with Tyson vs RJJ back in 2021 as in that year many people were just craving some kind of live "new" sport to watch.

I am quite surprised that there hasn't been mention of Paul vs Ryan Garcia in a non sanctioned exhibition. Garcia cannot fight properly, but can do exhibitions and is a viral star.
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hhaehre wrote: 20 Nov 2024, 19:00
Controversial wrote: 20 Nov 2024, 16:25 Clip doing the rounds showing Tyson pulling his punches, to be fair it does look like he did in this clip

https://x.com/proxcee/status/1858946269 ... 0V5TcR99OQ
It's called "unable to pull the trigger". This world is getting dumber by the minute. Anyone who saw that fight and thought Tyson was holding back is in need for very very strong glasses.
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