Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

[Boxerbeetle]

The fact of the matter is, if you aren't on gear you're a mug. This isn't the 1950s.

PEDs means inflicting more brain damage. You're alright with that?

It's not up to fans to be alright with it or not. But if I was a pro boxer and I knew my opponents were nearly all on PEDs and barely being tested, I'd certainly consider jumping on the train too, if only to protect myself against being the one getting the brain damage.

[keithmoonhangover]

The fact of the matter is, if you aren't on gear you're a mug. This isn't the 1950s.

PEDs means inflicting more brain damage. You're alright with that?

It's not up to fans to be alright with it or not. But if I was a pro boxer and I knew my opponents were nearly all on PEDs and barely being tested, I'd certainly consider jumping on the train too, if only to protect myself against being the one getting the brain damage.

We're not allowed an opinion?

[Boxerbeetle]

PEDs means inflicting more brain damage. You're alright with that?

It's not up to fans to be alright with it or not. But if I was a pro boxer and I knew my opponents were nearly all on PEDs and barely being tested, I'd certainly consider jumping on the train too, if only to protect myself against being the one getting the brain damage.

We're not allowed an opinion?

Of course fans can have an opinion, but end of the day they're not the ones getting in the ring and potentially facing a PED enhanced opponent. If boxing ever cleans up its act and takes PEDs seriously, I'll be the first to criticise anyone still cheating. But as it is, they're all bloody doing it.

[keithmoonhangover]

It's not up to fans to be alright with it or not. But if I was a pro boxer and I knew my opponents were nearly all on PEDs and barely being tested, I'd certainly consider jumping on the train too, if only to protect myself against being the one getting the brain damage.

We're not allowed an opinion?

Of course fans can have an opinion, but end of the day they're not the ones getting in the ring and potentially facing a PED enhanced opponent. If boxing ever cleans up its act and takes PEDs seriously, I'll be the first to criticise anyone still cheating. But as it is, they're all bloody doing it.

That's just speculation.

[Boxerbeetle]

We're not allowed an opinion?

Of course fans can have an opinion, but end of the day they're not the ones getting in the ring and potentially facing a PED enhanced opponent. If boxing ever cleans up its act and takes PEDs seriously, I'll be the first to criticise anyone still cheating. But as it is, they're all bloody doing it.

That's just speculation.

It's an opinion

[Controversial]

Victor Conte reckons about 60% of boxers are on PEDS,. If that is accurate then the Usyk vs Fury card could in theory potentially have 7 fighters who are on something, and that’s using a lower figure of 50%. I would assume the higher up the ladder you go the more prevalent it is because that's where the moneys at. To be honest none of the positive tests shock me now, it's a money making business at the end of the day.

[cormack]

is this another boar meat controversy

[cormack]

And what a surprise he became a client of Dr Uz in September. That’s another positive test for him after Conor Benn & he also has drugs cheat Tyson Fury as a client.

Everyone who is a client of his are dopers in my eyes. You don’t go & work with him if you’re a clean athlete.

I’d like to hear Liam Smith’s thoughts on it. He was outspoken about Fowler working with him before their fight & now he’s got McCann as a gym mate.

Liam's gone public saying Josh Kelly is juicing.

Why does no one ever go public saying AJ is juicing? He’s the most blatant case there is

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

[JamesPhilips]

Liam's gone public saying Josh Kelly is juicing.

Why does no one ever go public saying AJ is juicing? He’s the most blatant case there is

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

You actually believe that? The users are way ahead of the testers. Masking, cycling, using PEDs that are not yet testing for? How naive are you?

[Controversial]

Liam's gone public saying Josh Kelly is juicing.

Why does no one ever go public saying AJ is juicing? He’s the most blatant case there is

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

Listen to Victor Conte podcast where he talks about it, if you know what you are doing or are getting the right people helping you won’t get caught.

[cormack]

Why does no one ever go public saying AJ is juicing? He’s the most blatant case there is

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

You actually believe that? The users are way ahead of the testers. Masking, cycling, using PEDs that are not yet testing for? How naive are you?

naive of you to assume I am naive

[margaret thatcher]

conte client shane mosley admitting to using but never failed a test

[Coco]

Maybe times have changed, maybe I was naive, probably the likes of Holyfield were on it, but in the 90's I didn't think anyone was on it.
Saying that there was barely any testing then, I never got tested in 54 fights.
I think it was only championship level fighters that were.

[keithmoonhangover]

Why does no one ever go public saying AJ is juicing? He’s the most blatant case there is

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

Listen to Victor Conte podcast where he talks about it, if you know what you are doing or are getting the right people helping you won’t get caught.

But some big name boxers have failed.

[Controversial]

so how come he gets tested by vada et al and has never had a fail

Listen to Victor Conte podcast where he talks about it, if you know what you are doing or are getting the right people helping you won’t get caught.

But some big name boxers have failed.

Probably because they screwed up, he done a recent interview with Tris Dixon, interesting listen, explains how they use methods that aren’t even being tested for

[Taansend]

The kid is covered in "hard man" tattoos and got beard transplants. That tells you all you need to know about the mindset.

What the bloody hell is a Beard Transplant? Do you get someone else's beard put on your face? Can you choose whose you get?

Can I get a Beard transplant on the back of my head?

[samwbr]

Now fighting Rhys Edwards

[JamesPhilips]

conte client shane mosley admitting to using but never failed a test

Nor did ‘Evan Fields’… or Andrew Golota or Tommy Morrison who admitted he’d been juicing since 18. Oh Lance Armstrong never failed a test either. People who believe in testing and laughably naive.

[Delta Jay]

Now fighting Rhys Edwards

I’m gonna need some info about this lad, anyone seen him before?

[Stevieaber]

Nice neat boxer, good fundamentals, trained by Gary Lockett

[rd350lc]

Glad the lad still gets to fight .

[Taansend]

McGrail wins a closer than expected decision & everyone screams ROBBERY.

[samwbr]

Frank saying it's more than one substance in McCanns sample.

[keithmoonhangover]

Frank saying it's more than one substance in McCanns sample.

I just hate all this PED shit. One day someone's gonna get killed in the ring and the guy standing over him is going to test positive.

[rd350lc]

Frank saying it's more than one substance in McCanns sample.

I just hate all this PED shit. One day someone's gonna get killed in the ring and the guy standing over him is going to test positive.

It's simple to end , lifetime ban .
Why are the powers that be reluctant to tread this path ? .