Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

[keithmoonhangover]

legendary

Tyson Fury honestly views him as no real challenge because the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

Speaking of which, when the camera went on to Paris just after the final bell, she looked like a woman who's husband had just got beat.

[stujones]

So funny, Frank has been harping on that Oscar scored 9-3 usyk, tnt using that as evidence the judges had it wrong, saying about Oscars boxing pedigree.

Oscar doing the media rounds saying usyk well won and in fact won better than fight 1.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Each to their own. I seen plenty of
people crying.

It’s the casuals on social media though. Don’t know how to score fights and clear bias to their fighter.

[gp.]

I I know next to fornicate all about boxing, really, but I thought Usyk won.

[igor king]

Height, weight and reach advantages are big advantages

.....if used properly. If they aren't, they're a disadvantage.

Having a butt wider than shoulders adds a lot of weight but no advantage.

[KiwiRider]

I I know next to fornicate all about boxing, really, but I thought Usyk won.

Stop talking yourself down, your on an internet forum = expert.
And Uysk won more clearly this time.

[Grilling Machine]

I was willing him throughout the fight to throw the right but for the best part he just could not do it, he struggled to get the right off most of the rounds. If he was looser and busier with the right he could have won that fight tonight, IMO.

Usyk was doing an excellent job of circling away from it, Fury lacking the foresight and/or footspeed to make the necessary adjustments. Throwing his righthand more often as a solitary change might've given Usyk more opportunities.

He didn't have the left hook to check Usyk's movement IMO, and Usyk both recognised and exploited that. For the most part Fury seemed reluctant to gamble on opening his guard that wide, given their speed disparity. The big looped lefts he did throw were usually telegraphed when Usyk was maintaining neutral, not tight and sharp in and out of exchanges when Usyk likes to reset. Fury at 245 might've been the medicine.

Once again Usyk's mobility compensated for his reach handicap, but most surprising to me was how - whether through tiredness or choice - he engaged in clinches towards the end, acquitting himself well and even pushing Fury back at one point. My guess is he knew he had the tank for some grappling down the stretch because he'd avoided it early, and it gave Fury another aspect to consider.

Peak Holyfield would be about as bad a matchup for Fury as I can imagine.

Just before the fight started I was thinking how confident I'd be in the Holy from Bowe II against 281 Fury.

He didn't have Usyk's feet and probably would've suffered for it, but could've taken Fury's best and kept plugging.

[margaret thatcher]

usyk won clearly, it's sour grapes from fwank. tbh, i can understand it, he is fury's promoter after all, never gonna be balanced

[dempseyfire]

being naturally bigger is an advantage (to a point, i dont think being 7'5 400 is necessarily a benefit), but it's just one among many factors at play.

usyk size wise......it's funny he's considered a small hw today. historically he's actually bigger than most. 6'3, 78 inch reach, still in shape around 220. when he was a cruiser he was about 210 on fight night, only after getting himself completely ripped.

by comparison, jack johnson, called a giant in his day, was 6 feet, with a 74 inch reach, weighing in the 180s-190s on fight daoy on ocassion. thats light heavyweight size today. some of his opponents were the size of welters today

Usyk wasn't even "ripped" at 200 . . .clearly carrying some flab although in shape at 220. He's not naturally as big as a Liston or Foreman who killed themselves to get to 210-220.

[margaret thatcher]

being naturally bigger is an advantage (to a point, i dont think being 7'5 400 is necessarily a benefit), but it's just one among many factors at play.

usyk size wise......it's funny he's considered a small hw today. historically he's actually bigger than most. 6'3, 78 inch reach, still in shape around 220. when he was a cruiser he was about 210 on fight night, only after getting himself completely ripped.

by comparison, jack johnson, called a giant in his day, was 6 feet, with a 74 inch reach, weighing in the 180s-190s on fight daoy on ocassion. thats light heavyweight size today. some of his opponents were the size of welters today

Usyk wasn't even "ripped" at 200 . . .clearly carrying some flab although in shape at 220. He's not naturally as big as a Liston or Foreman who killed themselves to get to 210-220.

looks pretty ripped to me - he would weigh in at 200 as a cruiser and then be up to 210-212 by fight time, with a 6 pack and visible bones that liston or foreman never showed

[dempseyfire]

Although I play my role as a fan boy on here, I am very realistic in real life on Tyson... I don't think he's been good since and during Wilder 3. The signing of the Del fight was a huge red flag and the Ngannou performance shocking. I believe he trained his hardest and tried his best with Usyk but it just wasn't enough. I thought he fought better in the first fight.

Actually, Fury being past prime after Wilder 3 is a good discussion.

He looked as good as ever vs Whyte and the 3rd Chisora fight. People just need to come to grip that Wilder sucked and was a humongous hype job fed a bunch of C-grade fighters during his "title reign" and his punching power saved him in his lone two wins vs a class opponent in Ortiz who was winning practically every round in both fights before getting clipped. I don't rate Fury's wins vs Wilder very highly at all. Wilder would've lost to a lot of other top heavyweights.

[tigermoth87]

Dubois is such a chode. Sit down, you quit like a bitch after a jab last time.

[KiwiRider]

Dubois is such a chode. Sit down, you quit like a bitch after a jab last time.

And he still has to get past Parker
Looking ahead, and not at who is in front of you doesn't tend to go well.

[tigermoth87]

And he still has to get past Parker
Looking ahead, and not at who is in front of you doesn't tend to go well.

Yeah, he definitely shouldn't be underestimating Parker. He's been on a roll since losing to Joyce.

[stujones]

On a different issue, whilst he’s not everyone’s cup of tea, given the personal hell he has been through I was a bit emotional hearing Adam smith on comms. In saying that, I’ve sort of missed the coverage that talk sport did for fight 1 minus the rights. I often watch that back on YouTube!

What is happening with Mike Costello, such a big noise when he joined dazn. I would love him to return to the 5 live pod if he’s out of work.

[dan28uk]

think dubois will take parker out like joyce did , i know parker is in good form and can see him out working dubois but think he'll be taken out around 9th round


anyone see the fury post fight presser did they only let his fans in ?? can understand the the fury of the judging of the last 7 rounds but think i gave him 3 but has usyk winning 7-5

[Cas]

Fury was not aggressive enough like the first fight. Usyk never looked remotely fazed and was controlling the fight.

Tired of hearing the excuses for Fury. It's his own downfall by playing a chess match with a master like Usyk. He is just that little bit better than Fury.

[DrDuke]

Although I play my role as a fan boy on here, I am very realistic in real life on Tyson... I don't think he's been good since and during Wilder 3. The signing of the Del fight was a huge red flag and the Ngannou performance shocking. I believe he trained his hardest and tried his best with Usyk but it just wasn't enough. I thought he fought better in the first fight.

Actually, Fury being past prime after Wilder 3 is a good discussion.

He looked as good as ever vs Whyte and the 3rd Chisora fight. People just need to come to grip that Wilder sucked and was a humongous hype job fed a bunch of C-grade fighters during his "title reign" and his punching power saved him in his lone two wins vs a class opponent in Ortiz who was winning practically every round in both fights before getting clipped. I don't rate Fury's wins vs Wilder very highly at all. Wilder would've lost to a lot of other top heavyweights.

Well, there's a gap between Whyte, Chisora and Fury. Anyway, Wilder indeed was a hypejob and he won only those rounds against Fury, where he managed to score a KD. Anyway, he could punch and time punches. It seems like Fury's punch resistance at least was better before getting caught by Wilder on several occasions.

[stujones]

think dubois will take parker out like joyce did , i know parker is in good form and can see him out working dubois but think he'll be taken out around 9th round


anyone see the fury post fight presser did they only let his fans in ?? can understand the the fury of the judging of the last 7 rounds but think i gave him 3 but has usyk winning 7-5

It’s a great test for Dubois, again I think people forget that Usyk bloody schooled Dubois in their fight. He was a mile ahead on the cards. Low blow fake controversy aside, Usyk virtually shut out Dubois.

Parker’s a great test to see how much Dubois has learned from the Usyk fight , or was how shockingly shit and vulnerable aj was flattered him.

[maverick23]

legendary

Tyson Fury honestly views him as no real challenge because the man is not much bigger than Tyson Fury's wife.

Speaking of which, when the camera went on to Paris just after the final bell, she looked like a woman who's husband had just got beat.

Yeah. She was standing eye to eye with Lennox Lewis at the time.

[maverick23]

I scored it 116-112 for Usyk. Even after 6 but I gave Usyk 5 of the final 6 rounds. I always think that the great fighters find a way to turn it around mid way through a tough fight. He’s done it a few times now.

Despite no knockdown I thought it was a clearer victory than the first fight.

[margaret thatcher]

yep, usyk did it again, separated himself as the fight went on. was most active in the late rounds. no lucky nose buster punch

[smiling assassin]

Fury’s best round was when he walked Uysk down with a high guard and let his hands go (think it was round 5). Couldn’t believe that he never boxed like that for the rest of the fight. At range Usyk was winning the fight with the backhand. Didn’t score the fight but felt Usyk had definitely done more than enough

[maverick23]

Fury’s best round was when he walked Uysk down with a high guard and let his hands go (think it was round 5). Couldn’t believe that he never boxed like that for the rest of the fight. At range Usyk was winning the fight with the backhand. Didn’t score the fight but felt Usyk had definitely done more than enough

Easier said than done when you’re 20st and are fighting someone so good.

[Winter king]

It is funny I clearly remember the Furies bashing Joshua that he tried to keep boxing Usyk and not using his size advantage at all. "He should have thrown the kitchen sink "and all that talk. He should have fought like against Cunningham or Wilder the second time. Here he just tried to get away with it and was fading in the last few rounds. Where was that sense of urgency that he absoluteley wants to win? He said he will annahilate Usyk but was not going for the kill. It didnt look like that.