5 best british pound for pound since 1976

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 22 Sep 2006, 08:29

woke up thinking who would be in my best 5 brits of all weights of the last 30 years. its very tough. would minter be in it? would stracey? would andries make it? how about hoko? maybe lennox? too late for chris finnegan, too late for johnny clarke and buchanan was past his best by then. perhaps McKenzie scrapes in? one stipulation - theyre not fighting now, so no hatton or calzaghe.

heres mine in no order;

john conteh
herol graham
minter
McGuigan
lennox lewis

cant help thinking i have forgotten someone though

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 22 Sep 2006, 08:34

harrygreb wrote:woke up thinking who would be in my best 5 brits of all weights of the last 30 years. its very tough. would minter be in it? would stracey? would andries make it? how about hoko? maybe lennox? too late for chris finnegan, too late for johnny clarke and buchanan was past his best by then. perhaps McKenzie scrapes in? one stipulation - theyre not fighting now, so no hatton or calzaghe.

heres mine in no order;

john conteh
herol graham
minter
McGuigan
lennox lewis

cant help thinking i have forgotten someone though

Ricky Hatton
Alan Minter
Lloyd Honeyghan
Jim Watt
Paul Hodkinson

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 22 Sep 2006, 08:36

No Lennox Lewis

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Blimey

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 22 Sep 2006, 08:45

Lennox Lewis
Herol Graham
Jim Watt
Barry McGuigan
Lloyd Honeyghan

And unfashionable though it is; Prince Naseem is interchangeable with all of them. If you take the meaning of pound for pound, Hamed punched like a lightweight, was fast, unorthodox and had great recovery powers and a good chin.

He was a formidable fighter for all the debates about his opponents, unfulfilled potential etc.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 22 Sep 2006, 08:49

lewis
Naz
McGuigen
Conteh
Minter

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 22 Sep 2006, 08:53

DavidPayne wrote:Lennox Lewis
Herol Graham
Jim Watt
Barry McGuigan
Lloyd Honeyghan

And unfashionable though it is; Prince Naseem is interchangeable with all of them. If you take the meaning of pound for pound, Hamed punched like a lightweight, was fast, unorthodox and had great recovery powers and a good chin.

He was a formidable fighter for all the debates about his opponents, unfulfilled potential etc.

So why put Herol Graham in there, what exactly did Graham achieve at top level?

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 22 Sep 2006, 08:59

1. Lennox lewis
2. Naseem Hamed
3. John Conteh
4. McGuigan
5. Eubank
6. Benn
7. Minter
8. Honeyghan
9. Herol Graham
10. Hatton

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 22 Sep 2006, 09:12

Lewis has to rank top, no other Brit has been undisputed champion in that time.

Taki... · Post by **Taki...** » 22 Sep 2006, 09:59

In no order...

Hatton
Eubank
Honeyghan
Hamed (even though he was/is a massive twat)
Lewis

J · Post by J » 22 Sep 2006, 10:00

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:1. Lennox lewis
2. Naseem Hamed
3. John Conteh
4. McGuigan
5. Eubank
6. Benn
7. Minter
8. Honeyghan
9. Herol Graham
10. Hatton

nice list agree with the names if not all the order.

which lets face can be argues til we are blue in the face and still not get resolved.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 22 Sep 2006, 10:04

nickd wrote:Lewis has to rank top, no other Brit has been undisputed champion in that time.

Minter was undisputed champ, so was Honeyghan.

J · Post by J » 22 Sep 2006, 10:14

honeygun yes you are right, minter wba wbc according to his record though not sure when the IBF came into fruition .

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 22 Sep 2006, 10:19

bennie wrote:
nickd wrote:Lewis has to rank top, no other Brit has been undisputed champion in that time.
Minter was undisputed champ, so was Honeyghan.

So was Hamed, he beat all the belt holders and beat the linear champ.

DIRT SUGAR · Post by **DIRT SUGAR** » 22 Sep 2006, 10:21

nickd wrote:Lewis has to rank top, no other Brit has been undisputed champion in that time.

Wasn' tHoneyghan was after beating Curry?

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 22 Sep 2006, 10:24

nickd wrote:Lewis has to rank top, no other Brit has been undisputed champion in that time.

Also in a great division, beating every man he ever faced, and dominating for 11years.

Andy Mac · Post by **Andy Mac** » 22 Sep 2006, 10:37

I thought Harry said no Hatton or Calzaghe, though in fairness Lennox would still have to be top. Lloyd Honeyghan has to be in there as does N. Benn, but Michael Watson only ever lost to top quality men, or naturally bigger men. so he must be worthy.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 22 Sep 2006, 10:46

Terence wrote:
J wrote:honeygun yes you are right, minter wba wbc according to his record though not sure when the IBF came into fruition .
He beat the man, Vito. He also had a line stemming from the fight between Valdes and Briscoe for the title vacated by Monzon.

Minter was undisputed champ. Think you can pin point the creation of the IBF as 9-11-84, when they grabbed hold of the coat tails of Larry Holmes, when he was stripped of his title for fighting Bonecrusher Smith.

I'd have Calzaghe in top 5, in terms of talent alone.

J · Post by J » 22 Sep 2006, 11:35

thanks mw.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 22 Sep 2006, 11:40

Terence wrote:Some people say Watson was naturally bigger than the guys he fought, including Eubank. Watson was a physical marvel.

He sure as hell didn't look bigger than Eubank.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 22 Sep 2006, 11:46

I don't really recall, it was more noticable how mountainous his shoulders and back were and how barrell chested he was.

Watson was more slim built with a pretty even weight distribution.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 22 Sep 2006, 11:55

Careful now Terrence, you're straying into the waters of a "semi" here, beautifully put together is really pushing the envelope me old china. A magnificent specimen is more manly, oh no hang on, that sounds pretty whoopsified too doesn't it.

Steve Collins was fekking huge, I remember being flabberghasted at how much bigger than Eubank he was, I cannot for the life of me see how he made 168 let alone 160, he must have had bones like a hummingbird.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 22 Sep 2006, 17:58

andy mac is right - the post said no fighters currently campaigning, so why hatton and welsh joe?

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 22 Sep 2006, 18:37

In no order

Minter
Honeyghun
Eubank
Lewis
Naz

Honourable mention
McGuigan, Calzaghe.

I have Naz in over McGuigan based on achievement - however, prime for prime I would have tipped Barry.

Edit: I have edited my list, on further relfection. I have decided that Joe and Eubank's achievements are very similar so it goes down to who I think wins prime for prime..... Thats Eubank for me.

I did originally have Calzaghe and Eubank swapped - its that close though, Benn and Collins also up there.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 23 Sep 2006, 02:11

I think Lewis, and then Calzaghe have achieved way more than the rest. & much more ability than most on these lists. Biggest talent was Conteh, but he didn't have their dedication.

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 23 Sep 2006, 04:15

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
bennie wrote:
nickd wrote:Lewis has to rank top, no other Brit has been undisputed champion in that time.
Minter was undisputed champ, so was Honeyghan.
So was Hamed, he beat all the belt holders and beat the linear champ.

nice spin...but fact is the only 2 non-wbo champs he beat were a faded 33-year-old ibf champ tom johnson & wbc champ cesar soto, who was making 1st defense of crown he won by controversial decision over aging luisito espinoza!! in fact, that was soto's last significant win...logging only 2 wins over C-level fighters in 13 fights since then!!

but perhaps most significantly, hamed conspicuously avoided #1 wbo mandatory challenger juan manuel marquez for over 18 months...and with good reason---marquez would have exposed naz even before barrera did, since the versatile mexican was a natural featherweight as opposed to MAB, who was coming up directly from super bantam for the naz fight!!

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