This is all the evidence we needed. Paris is up to Del's chin. Even if she isn't wearing heels, we can now confirm that Paris is a middleweight, not a heavyweight.
Fury retires........yawn
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Why has his sparring partner (Francis 'Ricky' Gorman) only had the one pro fight back in 2022, why the stall in progression?
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Tyson won't be paying him. John trains Ricky, I think.
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Looking at fury’s career I wonder What fury was better? Light fury? or big boy fury? Would 255lb back foot fury beat 275lb front foot fury?
Which I guess leads to another question… what wilder was better? Light wilder
Which I guess leads to another question… what wilder was better? Light wilder
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I think the lighter Fury was better. For me, he was at his best from late 2012 through to the Klitschko fight.gregregegg wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 23:37 Looking at fury’s career I wonder What fury was better? Light fury? or big boy fury? Would 255lb back foot fury beat 275lb front foot fury?
Which I guess leads to another question… what wilder was better? Light wilder
Re Wilder. Never rated him as a boxer, liked him as a fighter. Wilder was too heavy for me in Fury 2 and 3. He never needed to fight in excess of 220lbs or thereabouts, so plus 230lbs was too much for a guy who fought like he did.
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Tyson Fury would only return to boxing for a third fight with Oleksandr Usyk
ISTANBUL, Turkey – “What would I be coming back for?” said Tyson Fury when asked the question on everyone's lips. “I've won every belt, haven't I? Does the love of the sport overthrow my health? There you go then. I think you've answered your own question there.”
Fury has been retired since losing for a second time to Oleksandr Usyk back in December. The contest was close, as was their first encounter, but on both occasions Fury was on the wrong end of a decision.
Seemingly angered by the judges’ decision, Fury walked away from the sport, but on account of his history of “retirements”, many expect him to return.
“You've got to worry about your health, because your health is your wealth,” said Fury.
It is something to consider after the battles Fury has been involved in over the years. The three wars with Deontay Wilder spring to mind and the heavy hits he took from the fierce puncher could catch up with him later in life. “Oh, we'll find out, won't we? It's inevitable, I believe,” Fury said.
Talk quickly turned back to the decision in December and Fury showed how much the fight still clearly plays on his mind.
“Listen, my last fight was a clear fornicating victory for the ‘Gypsy King’,” he said. “Anyone in boxing can see that. A complete load of dog shit, yeah? Political, whatever you want to call it. I did an interview, and just left the ring. As soon as that thing was announced, I was like, ‘I accept it, I'm a man, I don't make excuses. On with the next thing.’
“Got paid, got laid, got out of there. Happy days. Went home to my family, and now I'm happy. I'm at home in Morecambe. I train twice a day, I go out, I can have a beer when I want. I go eat what I want. I stay out late. I can do what the fornicate I want. You know why? Because I've earned the right to.”
Although Fury claims he is happily retired, it became clear that the former heavyweight champion would jump at the chance to again fight the only man to better him a professional boxing ring. Usyk will face Daniel Dubois for the undisputed heavyweight championship on July 19 in London, and Fury wants a third battle to take place in the UK and under his terms.
“If I was going to come back, I'd come back for Usyk, but I want a fair result in England,” Fury said. “That would be the one I want. That would be the fight I'd want next. I've only won 50 times and each time, I never ever see a way for him to win, but I know they can do what they want. They say it's fornicating Tuesday, it's Tuesday. I've always said I never give a fornicate about anybody's opinion until it fucked up my fornicating life.”
Despite his ill feeling towards recent decisions, Fury’s love for boxing has never faded.
“It's a great sport and everything I've got I owe to the game of boxing and I'm very appreciative,” Fury said. “I've had a love-hate relationship with boxing for going on 25 years. Like all great relationships, it's got to have ups and downs but the inevitable in my game is you make your bed, you lie in it and, yeah, I'm still very much in love with the game. I train regularly, I do all of the above.”
ISTANBUL, Turkey – “What would I be coming back for?” said Tyson Fury when asked the question on everyone's lips. “I've won every belt, haven't I? Does the love of the sport overthrow my health? There you go then. I think you've answered your own question there.”
Fury has been retired since losing for a second time to Oleksandr Usyk back in December. The contest was close, as was their first encounter, but on both occasions Fury was on the wrong end of a decision.
Seemingly angered by the judges’ decision, Fury walked away from the sport, but on account of his history of “retirements”, many expect him to return.
“You've got to worry about your health, because your health is your wealth,” said Fury.
It is something to consider after the battles Fury has been involved in over the years. The three wars with Deontay Wilder spring to mind and the heavy hits he took from the fierce puncher could catch up with him later in life. “Oh, we'll find out, won't we? It's inevitable, I believe,” Fury said.
Talk quickly turned back to the decision in December and Fury showed how much the fight still clearly plays on his mind.
“Listen, my last fight was a clear fornicating victory for the ‘Gypsy King’,” he said. “Anyone in boxing can see that. A complete load of dog shit, yeah? Political, whatever you want to call it. I did an interview, and just left the ring. As soon as that thing was announced, I was like, ‘I accept it, I'm a man, I don't make excuses. On with the next thing.’
“Got paid, got laid, got out of there. Happy days. Went home to my family, and now I'm happy. I'm at home in Morecambe. I train twice a day, I go out, I can have a beer when I want. I go eat what I want. I stay out late. I can do what the fornicate I want. You know why? Because I've earned the right to.”
Although Fury claims he is happily retired, it became clear that the former heavyweight champion would jump at the chance to again fight the only man to better him a professional boxing ring. Usyk will face Daniel Dubois for the undisputed heavyweight championship on July 19 in London, and Fury wants a third battle to take place in the UK and under his terms.
“If I was going to come back, I'd come back for Usyk, but I want a fair result in England,” Fury said. “That would be the one I want. That would be the fight I'd want next. I've only won 50 times and each time, I never ever see a way for him to win, but I know they can do what they want. They say it's fornicating Tuesday, it's Tuesday. I've always said I never give a fornicate about anybody's opinion until it fucked up my fornicating life.”
Despite his ill feeling towards recent decisions, Fury’s love for boxing has never faded.
“It's a great sport and everything I've got I owe to the game of boxing and I'm very appreciative,” Fury said. “I've had a love-hate relationship with boxing for going on 25 years. Like all great relationships, it's got to have ups and downs but the inevitable in my game is you make your bed, you lie in it and, yeah, I'm still very much in love with the game. I train regularly, I do all of the above.”
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Fair ground in England?Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 08:06 Tyson Fury would only return to boxing for a third fight with Oleksandr Usyk
“Listen, my last fight was a clear fornicating victory for the ‘Gypsy King’,” he said. “Anyone in boxing can see that. A complete load of dog shit, yeah? Political, whatever you want to call it. I did an interview, and just left the ring. As soon as that thing was announced, I was like, ‘I accept it, I'm a man, I don't make excuses. On with the next thing.’
“Got paid, got laid, got out of there. Happy days. Went home to my family, and now I'm happy. I'm at home in Morecambe. I train twice a day, I go out, I can have a beer when I want. I go eat what I want. I stay out late. I can do what the fornicate I want. You know why? Because I've earned the right to.”
“If I was going to come back, I'd come back for Usyk, but I want a fair result in England,” Fury said. “That would be the one I want. That would be the fight I'd want next. I've only won 50 times and each time, I never ever see a way for him to win, but I know they can do what they want. They say it's fornicating Tuesday, it's Tuesday. I've always said I never give a fornicate about anybody's opinion until it fucked up my fornicating life.”
Like Saudi wasn't split? Also, the event was BBBofC.
Joshua lost fair in the UK to Usyk too.
and who is he to call the shots?
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Tyson looks really uncomfortable out in Turkey compared to how he looks daily on his social media accounts.
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Did any other boxing writer or pundit have Fury winning either fight ?
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A few on here did.Controversial wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 08:46 Did any other boxing writer or pundit have Fury winning either fight ?
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did you?mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 08:55A few on here did.Controversial wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 08:46 Did any other boxing writer or pundit have Fury winning either fight ?
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No.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 09:13did you?mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 08:55A few on here did.Controversial wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 08:46 Did any other boxing writer or pundit have Fury winning either fight ?
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IMO Turki is a classic example of a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. He needs to stop trying to reheat stuff and move forward. Fury is boring now and Usyk is old.
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Yo, according to whom? Their rematch was closer, same as Joshua's, but I can't see worse than a draw for Usyk in a month of Sundays.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 08:06The contest was close, as was their first encounter, but on both occasions Fury was on the wrong end of a decision.
If Dubois beats him I hope it's down to a stellar performance and not Father Time.
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I thought the first one was closer. I thought Fury looked terrible in the rematch.Grilling Machine wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 17:48Yo, according to whom? Their rematch was closer, same as Joshua's, but I can't see worse than a draw for Usyk in a month of Sundays.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 08:06The contest was close, as was their first encounter, but on both occasions Fury was on the wrong end of a decision.
If Dubois beats him I hope it's down to a stellar performance and not Father Time.
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Many focused on fury’s rematch performance more.. cus he was taking it ‘’more serious’’mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 18:25I thought the first one was closer. I thought Fury looked terrible in the rematch.Grilling Machine wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 17:48Yo, according to whom? Their rematch was closer, same as Joshua's, but I can't see worse than a draw for Usyk in a month of Sundays.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 08:06The contest was close, as was their first encounter, but on both occasions Fury was on the wrong end of a decision.
If Dubois beats him I hope it's down to a stellar performance and not Father Time.
You could say he did better in the rematch cuz he didn’t mess around.. but that doesn’t mean he won. As good as he was. Usyk was simply better again.
He upped his game in the rematch.
I found that both fights were clear Usyk wins.
Couldn’t make a case for Fury unfortunately.
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I felt the first fight was clearer in terms of who won each round, with fewer open to interpretation like in the rematch. Usyk was ineffective for stretches* but Fury didn't press. Some people think Fury might've won if he'd rolled the dice.mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 18:25I thought the first one was closer. I thought Fury looked terrible in the rematch.
If Usyk beats Dubois I'd like to see him finish with Opetaia at cruiser, else Kabayel if he can't make weight or gets a huge offer. Fury needs to beat Joshua at minimum to earn another shot.
*In terms of domination I mean. He was certainly effective at eluding powershots and clinches.
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I thought he looked in poor shape and scared of getting hit.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 18:39Many focused on fury’s rematch performance more.. cus he was taking it ‘’more serious’’mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 18:25I thought the first one was closer. I thought Fury looked terrible in the rematch.Grilling Machine wrote: ↑02 Jul 2025, 17:48
Yo, according to whom? Their rematch was closer, same as Joshua's, but I can't see worse than a draw for Usyk in a month of Sundays.
If Dubois beats him I hope it's down to a stellar performance and not Father Time.
You could say he did better in the rematch cuz he didn’t mess around.. but that doesn’t mean he won. As good as he was. Usyk was simply better again.
He upped his game in the rematch.
I found that both fights were clear Usyk wins.
Couldn’t make a case for Fury unfortunately.
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It would be the stupidest thing ever if Fury came back, and immediately fought Usyk a 3rd time.
I'd honestly rather both of them never fight again than to see them fight each other again.
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I’ll be big mad if fury goes strait into a Usyk fight.
Fury needs to fight AJ, that is it. There is one fight for him and it’s AJ.
Fury needs to fight AJ, that is it. There is one fight for him and it’s AJ.
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I'm happy that Turki has made the best fights over the pat couple of years..
but we've seen it twice..
just like we've seen Bivol-Bert twice too..
Sometimes, it's best when it's one and done!
but we've seen it twice..
just like we've seen Bivol-Bert twice too..
Sometimes, it's best when it's one and done!
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Fury only out landed Usyk in one round during the rematch.