Oleksandr Usyk vs. Joseph Parker - WBO Ordered

Who wins?

Poll ended at 07 Jan 2026, 00:14

Usyk - Decision
28
76%
Usyk - T/KO
8
22%
DRAW
0
No votes
Parker - T/KO
0
No votes
Parker - Decision
1
3%
 
Total votes: 37

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mickey1975 wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 15:06
joshj909 wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 14:38
mickey1975 wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 13:43
Mate, I could pull up thousands of posts from almost everybody who all agree The Ring are the only respected ratings, it's been that way for years.
Yes but they're not an official belt and don't have mandatories. The rankings can be good but they're no different from our rankings in the forum. Also, the champ has beaten the highest ranked Ring opponent twice in a row and that opponent hasn't faced anyone else since, obviously number 2 or even 3 gets a shot, right? Or does Usyk keep facing Fury until The Ring (Turki) decide they've seen enough?
Ok, stick with the official bodies. Okolie is less worthy than CBS for a shot at Usyk.
Tbh, a lot of people said Ring lost a lot of credibility when GBP purchased it.

The only way to keep the Ring belt is to defent against a top 5 ranked boxer at least every 3 years.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 15:57
mickey1975 wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 15:06
joshj909 wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 14:38

Yes but they're not an official belt and don't have mandatories. The rankings can be good but they're no different from our rankings in the forum. Also, the champ has beaten the highest ranked Ring opponent twice in a row and that opponent hasn't faced anyone else since, obviously number 2 or even 3 gets a shot, right? Or does Usyk keep facing Fury until The Ring (Turki) decide they've seen enough?
Ok, stick with the official bodies. Okolie is less worthy than CBS for a shot at Usyk.
Tbh, a lot of people said Ring lost a lot of credibility when GBP purchased it.

The only way to keep the Ring belt is to defent against a top 5 ranked boxer at least every 3 years.
He's beaten two of the top five in the last year. And has six wins over three of the guys in the top five.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 15:57
mickey1975 wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 15:06
joshj909 wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 14:38

Yes but they're not an official belt and don't have mandatories. The rankings can be good but they're no different from our rankings in the forum. Also, the champ has beaten the highest ranked Ring opponent twice in a row and that opponent hasn't faced anyone else since, obviously number 2 or even 3 gets a shot, right? Or does Usyk keep facing Fury until The Ring (Turki) decide they've seen enough?
Ok, stick with the official bodies. Okolie is less worthy than CBS for a shot at Usyk.
Tbh, a lot of people said Ring lost a lot of credibility when GBP purchased it.

The only way to keep the Ring belt is to defent against a top 5 ranked boxer at least every 3 years.
I go by the BoxRec HW Top #15.
Far more accurate ;-)
The turkey that runs it is better IMO too
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A rare instance when the one of the sanctioning bodies gets it right....insisting Parker has his shot :TU:

It has to be either Parker of Kabayel.

The top 3 Brits have had a stranglehold on Usyk for his last 6 fights, it's high time to let a couple of other contenders from around the globe try their luck.
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KiwiRider wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 21:11
I go by the BoxRec HW Top #15.
Far more accurate ;-)
The turkey that runs it is better IMO too
I agree :lol:

if only we could enforce mandatories :box:
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THEBUTCH wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 05:02 A rare instance when the one of the sanctioning bodies gets it right....insisting Parker has his shot :TU:

It has to be either Parker of Kabayel.

The top 3 Brits have had a stranglehold on Usyk for his last 6 fights, it's high time to let a couple of other contenders from around the globe try their luck.
Just a thought. Does fighting a Brit generate more money?
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MasterG wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 13:53
THEBUTCH wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 05:02 A rare instance when the one of the sanctioning bodies gets it right....insisting Parker has his shot :TU:

It has to be either Parker of Kabayel.

The top 3 Brits have had a stranglehold on Usyk for his last 6 fights, it's high time to let a couple of other contenders from around the globe try their luck.
Just a thought. Does fighting a Brit generate more money?
The Americans hold the records for the biggest box office takes, top three I think.
I don't know how 90,000 for AJ at Wembley doesn't beat a Mayweather show at the MGM Grand, but there you go.
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KiwiRider wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 15:17
MasterG wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 13:53
THEBUTCH wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 05:02 A rare instance when the one of the sanctioning bodies gets it right....insisting Parker has his shot :TU:

It has to be either Parker of Kabayel.

The top 3 Brits have had a stranglehold on Usyk for his last 6 fights, it's high time to let a couple of other contenders from around the globe try their luck.
Just a thought. Does fighting a Brit generate more money?
The Americans hold the records for the biggest box office takes, top three I think.
I don't know how 90,000 for AJ at Wembley doesn't beat a Mayweather show at the MGM Grand, but there you go.
What about a non-British heavyweight? I'd be surprised if an American heavyweight not named Mike Tyson or Evan Fields has managed to do huge numbers without a British opponent for decades.
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joshj909 wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 15:23
KiwiRider wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 15:17
MasterG wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 13:53

Just a thought. Does fighting a Brit generate more money?
The Americans hold the records for the biggest box office takes, top three I think.
I don't know how 90,000 for AJ at Wembley doesn't beat a Mayweather show at the MGM Grand, but there you go.
What about a non-British heavyweight? I'd be surprised if an American heavyweight not named Mike Tyson or Evan Fields has managed to do huge numbers without a British opponent for decades.
Yes America has had a drought of top heavyweights for decades. Wilder was carefully stage managed for years, but the savvy fans never bought it
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KiwiRider wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 15:17
MasterG wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 13:53
THEBUTCH wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 05:02 A rare instance when the one of the sanctioning bodies gets it right....insisting Parker has his shot :TU:

It has to be either Parker of Kabayel.

The top 3 Brits have had a stranglehold on Usyk for his last 6 fights, it's high time to let a couple of other contenders from around the globe try their luck.
Just a thought. Does fighting a Brit generate more money?
The Americans hold the records for the biggest box office takes, top three I think.
I don't know how 90,000 for AJ at Wembley doesn't beat a Mayweather show at the MGM Grand, but there you go.
Because you pay to hire Wembley. MGM pay to stage it. A lot.
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has he gotten any fights he made those call out songs for
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margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Aug 2025, 08:00 has he gotten any fights he made those call out songs for
No but his fan base is through the roof :lol:
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“When we were amateurs, we copied his [Naseem Hamed] movements. And we were under pressure in the gym because we were not allowed to do so. They were telling us that it looked like we were losing our concentration, and our focus, like we were out of control. But I kept doing it, even during competitions.”
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EXCLUSIVE: Team Usyk on Turki’s Parker snub: It’s their show!

Sergey Lapin, the long-serving director of Oleksandr Usyk’s team, has moved to clarify Team Usyk’s stance following Turki Alalshikh’s public dismissal of a proposed Joseph Parker fight.

Mandatory Rules and Promoter Power
“Riyadh Season and Sela are not interested in making a fight between Oleksandr Usyk and Joseph Parker, The Ring has learned,” read a statement.

Alalshikh added, “I want to see Usyk vs Itauma. This is the fight!”

As Turki lines up anyone but the deserved Parker, Lapin gave his reaction exclusively to World Boxing News.

Lapin acknowledged that the call rests entirely with Alalshikh, head of Saudi Arabia’s General Entertainment Authority, and expressed no issue with the decision not to pursue the former WBO champion as Usyk’s next opponent.

Turki has every right to decide

“Regarding Turki’s statement, it’s their show, and they have every right to decide who fights and when,” Lapin told WBN. “It’s absolutely understandable that Turki makes those calls himself.”

Usyk, who became undisputed heavyweight champion twice under Alalshikh’s Riyadh Season banner, has fought back-to-back events against Tyson Fury in Saudi Arabia, culminating in a comprehensive ending to the saga.

Lapin said the Ukrainian camp remains thankful for the world-class platform.

“Oleksandr already had two amazing fights with Tyson Fury in Saudi Arabia, everything was done on the highest level,” said Lapin. “We’re grateful for that.”
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WBO Enforces the Rules

“Kindly note that I am obliged to adhere to and enforce consistently the regulatory framework that governs the World Boxing Organization,” Olivieri told WBN.

“In the instant case, Usyk must discharge his mandatory obligation against Joseph Parker. The WBO duly notified all parties through the applicable negotiation and order. Failure to do so will trigger the WBO’s intervention to conduct purse bid proceedings in accordance with the relevant provisions.

“Simply put, I must play by the rules regardless of who is the fighter, promoter, manager, advisor, broker, etcetera,” Olivieri added.
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So it looks like , Belts , Ratings , Organizations , can all go get stuffed , the champ is who King Tut Tut says it is , and he fights who Tut Tut wants him too , regardless , . Don't like it go find your own money
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This is an instance where Usyk getting stripper is actualy the right thing to do.

While the world will know Usyk is number 1, given the fact that Parker is the consensus number 1 challenger if you don’t fight him you can’t remain undisputed …. (a bit of debate for kabayal, but I think most agree Parker is the deserving opponent even if they think kabayal is stylistically harder for Usyk)…

In this case we all know Usyk isn’t ducking… but if you let undisputeds dodge number 1 contenders then the title makes no sense as it opens dispute as to who the best really is…

Looks like Parker vs Moses…. I like it as a fight, but hate it as a vacant title shot that Moses clearly hasn’t earnt…

If Usyk vacates Parker should just become champ, get a voluntary and Moses should fight hrgovic for mandatory position…
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coneye wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 07:30 So it looks like , Belts , Ratings , Organizations , can all go get stuffed , the champ is who King Tut Tut says it is , and he fights who Tut Tut wants him too , regardless , . Don't like it go find your own money
We all knew this would happen.
As the monopoly and dependence grows, so does the control.
Just wait until DAZN says no because they want their bread buttered with Saudi money. Do as we say or the tap gets turned off.
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KiwiRider wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 20:11
coneye wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 07:30 So it looks like , Belts , Ratings , Organizations , can all go get stuffed , the champ is who King Tut Tut says it is , and he fights who Tut Tut wants him too , regardless , . Don't like it go find your own money
We all knew this would happen.
As the monopoly and dependence grows, so does the control.
Just wait until DAZN says no because they want their bread buttered with Saudi money. Do as we say or the tap gets turned off.
Nope, most people thought Turki was the best thing to happen to boxing ever. He's an idiot. He might be a boxing fan but he clearly isn't the same fan everyone else is. He likes the spectacle and is gullible rather than liking the sport. Could end up running Usyk's legacy.

Imagine if Usyk beats Itauma and then Itauma loses to his first other top 15 opponent in the fight after. It would look like a terrible voluntary final defence of Usyks career.
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Talks of a fight with Wilder now, it everything's alligned.
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Usyk has asked WBO for an extension due to an injury
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Oleksandr Usyk asks for extension on Joseph Parker fight negotiations due to injury

Queensbury promoter Frank— Warren tells Sky Sports News that Joseph Parker could fight the winner of Moses Itauma against Dillian Whyte if Oleksandr Usyk vacates the WBO belt; the undisputed heavyweight champion has requested an extension on Parker fight negotiations

Oleksandr Usyk has requested an extension on negotiations to fight Joseph Parker due to injury, promoter Frank —Warren has told Sky Sports.

Usyk was recently ordered by the WBO to defend his belt against mandatory challenger Parker after defeating Daniel Dubois to become undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

Alternatively, Parker could face the winner of Moses Itauma against Dillian Whyte should Usyk vacate the WBO title.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Aug 2025, 11:01 Oleksandr Usyk asks for extension on Joseph Parker fight negotiations due to injury

Queensbury promoter Frank— Warren tells Sky Sports News that Joseph Parker could fight the winner of Moses Itauma against Dillian Whyte if Oleksandr Usyk vacates the WBO belt; the undisputed heavyweight champion has requested an extension on Parker fight negotiations

Oleksandr Usyk has requested an extension on negotiations to fight Joseph Parker due to injury, promoter Frank —Warren has told Sky Sports.

Usyk was recently ordered by the WBO to defend his belt against mandatory challenger Parker after defeating Daniel Dubois to become undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

Alternatively, Parker could face the winner of Moses Itauma against Dillian Whyte should Usyk vacate the WBO title.
Usyk vs Parker
OR
Usyk vs Kabayel and Parker vs Itauma/Whyte

Happy with either of those scenarios. I bet if Itauma wins the belt gets vacated but if Whyte wins it does not. Classic sneaky Frank/WBO arrangements.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Aug 2025, 10:54 Usyk has asked WBO for an extension due to an injury
Sounds like a stall tactic until he hears from his mate Turki.
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