Because Nigel Benn beat him in one round. Elite fighters don't do that. I don't think there is anyway on this earth that you would claim Iran Barkley was an elite fighter if it didn't support your argument.elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 11:06And why Iran Barkley wasn't elite? He was the champion when James Toney beat him, right?keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 11:02I want you to say which elite boxer James Toney beat at 168? Please don't say Iran Barkley, because when you do, it makes you sound as thick as mince.
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Barkley wasn't elite or great but great/elite fighters have been taken out in one round. For example, Bob Montgomery against Bummy Davis.
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Well, the great Emile Griffith was knocked out in one round by Rubin "Hurricane" Carter. Carter knocked him out on his prime. I guess elite fighters don't get knocked out according to your logic.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 11:16Because Nigel Benn beat him in one round. Elite fighters don't do that. I don't think there is anyway on this earth that you would claim Iran Barkley was an elite fighter if it didn't support your argument.elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 11:06And why Iran Barkley wasn't elite? He was the champion when James Toney beat him, right?keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 11:02
I want you to say which elite boxer James Toney beat at 168? Please don't say Iran Barkley, because when you do, it makes you sound as thick as mince.
Michael Spinks was knocked out in the first round by Mike Tyson, too. So what's the point?
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My point is, Iran Barkley ain't an elite fighter at 168. His only good win was Darrin Van Horn. Please explain how that makes him an elite fighter at 168?elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 12:49Well, the great Emile Griffith was knocked out in one round by Rubin "Hurricane" Carter. Carter knocked him out on his prime. I guess elite fighters don't get knocked out according to your logic.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 11:16Because Nigel Benn beat him in one round. Elite fighters don't do that. I don't think there is anyway on this earth that you would claim Iran Barkley was an elite fighter if it didn't support your argument.elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 11:06
And why Iran Barkley wasn't elite? He was the champion when James Toney beat him, right?
Michael Spinks was knocked out in the first round by Mike Tyson, too. So what's the point?
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Who were the elite fighters at that weight and at that time?keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 12:54My point is, Iran Barkley ain't an elite fighter at 168. His only good win was Darrin Van Horn. Please explain how that makes him an elite fighter at 168?elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 12:49Well, the great Emile Griffith was knocked out in one round by Rubin "Hurricane" Carter. Carter knocked him out on his prime. I guess elite fighters don't get knocked out according to your logic.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 11:16
Because Nigel Benn beat him in one round. Elite fighters don't do that. I don't think there is anyway on this earth that you would claim Iran Barkley was an elite fighter if it didn't support your argument.
Michael Spinks was knocked out in the first round by Mike Tyson, too. So what's the point?
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Your mother should have taught you not to ansewMy point is, Iran Barkley ain't an elite fighter at 168. His only good win was Darrin Van Horn. Please explain how that makes him an elite fighter at 168?elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 16:11Who were the elite fighters at that weight and at that time?keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 12:54My point is, Iran Barkley ain't an elite fighter at 168. His only good win was Darrin Van Horn. Please explain how that makes him an elite fighter at 168?elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 12:49
Well, the great Emile Griffith was knocked out in one round by Rubin "Hurricane" Carter. Carter knocked him out on his prime. I guess elite fighters don't get knocked out according to your logic.
Michael Spinks was knocked out in the first round by Mike Tyson, too. So what's the point?
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Who were the best fighters at 168 at the time? Because by that time, Iran "The Blade" Barkley was a triple crown world champion. If that is not elite, what is it?keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 04:53Your mother should have taught you not to ansewMy point is, Iran Barkley ain't an elite fighter at 168. His only good win was Darrin Van Horn. Please explain how that makes him an elite fighter at 168?elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 16:11Who were the elite fighters at that weight and at that time?keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 12:54
My point is, Iran Barkley ain't an elite fighter at 168. His only good win was Darrin Van Horn. Please explain how that makes him an elite fighter at 168?
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And don't get personal. Put my mother out of the conversation, please. Let's respect one another.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 04:53Your mother should have taught you not to ansewMy point is, Iran Barkley ain't an elite fighter at 168. His only good win was Darrin Van Horn. Please explain how that makes him an elite fighter at 168?elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 16:11Who were the elite fighters at that weight and at that time?keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑24 Sep 2025, 12:54
My point is, Iran Barkley ain't an elite fighter at 168. His only good win was Darrin Van Horn. Please explain how that makes him an elite fighter at 168?
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I'm not disrespecting your mother, I'm simply asking if she taught you never to an answer a question with a question?elmersalsa wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 08:48And don't get personal. Put my mother out of the conversation, please. Let's respect one another.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 04:53Your mother should have taught you not to ansewMy point is, Iran Barkley ain't an elite fighter at 168. His only good win was Darrin Van Horn. Please explain how that makes him an elite fighter at 168?
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I don't want you to mention my mother at all.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 10:31I'm not disrespecting your mother, I'm simply asking if she taught you never to an answer a question with a question?elmersalsa wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 08:48And don't get personal. Put my mother out of the conversation, please. Let's respect one another.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 04:53
Your mother should have taught you not to ansewMy point is, Iran Barkley ain't an elite fighter at 168. His only good win was Darrin Van Horn. Please explain how that makes him an elite fighter at 168?
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Are you sure? I wasn't disrespecting your mother.elmersalsa wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 11:34I don't want you to mention my mother at all.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 10:31I'm not disrespecting your mother, I'm simply asking if she taught you never to an answer a question with a question?elmersalsa wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 08:48
And don't get personal. Put my mother out of the conversation, please. Let's respect one another.