Herbie Hide in court

[Taansend]

Bawburgh sounds like a Scottish insult.

I saw Herbie fight Akinwande(?) in the ABA finals live on BBC or ITV (those were the days).

He'd only had 10 fights or something but here he was, a 17 year old kid, in the finals. I fell deeply in love at that moment.

He had a decent career but I always felt, talent wise, it could have been so much better.

[tannervegas]

I remember the Akinwande v Hide ABA final. Akinwande was a real dick to him afterwards brushing Hide away dismissively when Hide went to congratulate him. For no real reason either that I can recall. It was a scrappy bout but I think that was mostly due to (as you said) him only having had a few fights at that point and Akinwande being an elite amateur. He was knackered at the end of it.

[Tarquin Tarpaulin IV]

Herbie won 43 of 49 bouts by KO and lost 4 times - to Riddick Bowe, Vitali Klitschko, Joseph Chingangu by KO - which he reversed 2 years later with a first round stoppage and to Mindaugas Kulikauskas following a clash of heads, the cut from which brought about the Referees stoppage.

With that record, in today's market he'd have a far greater profile and we'd be talking about him in glowing terms - but should probably have stayed at Cruiser?

[MasterG]

Herbie has become an elusive character. Can't imagine him being mega rich.

He must have some sort on I come I guess as I cannot see him being very good at money management or a decent property investor.

I did like Herbie in his fighting days though. He was a decent boxer really, just didn't have the tools for the bigger guys

He's managed better than most just to still be in that house.

What size house has he got? Is it like huge sized?

[SeanBrennan]

Herbie has become an elusive character. Can't imagine him being mega rich.

He must have some sort on I come I guess as I cannot see him being very good at money management or a decent property investor.

I did like Herbie in his fighting days though. He was a decent boxer really, just didn't have the tools for the bigger guys

He's managed better than most just to still be in that house.

What size house has he got? Is it like huge sized?

Mansion https://www.alamy.com/boxer-herbie-hide ... 47256.html

[TheLeprechaun]

I remember the Akinwande v Hide ABA final. Akinwande was a real dick to him afterwards brushing Hide away dismissively when Hide went to congratulate him. For no real reason either that I can recall. It was a scrappy bout but I think that was mostly due to (as you said) him only having had a few fights at that point and Akinwande being an elite amateur. He was knackered at the end of it.

Hide is from the Igo tribe and Akinwander is from a different one I believe. Nigeria itself was just put together when Brits drew a map and lots of different tribes put together. Although maybe an Nigerian can clarify but I have seen disputes in bookies between Nigerians who seemed to hate each other and thats what I was told when I quietly asked someone what that was all about.

[TheLeprechaun]

He's managed better than most just to still be in that house.

What size house has he got? Is it like huge sized?

Mansion https://www.alamy.com/boxer-herbie-hide ... 47256.html

I believe Herbie was adopted and lived a charmed life and inherited that house? Correct me if I'm wrong. It makes it odd that he got into boxing despite not needing the money.

[big lennox]

Herbie won 43 of 49 bouts by KO and lost 4 times - to Riddick Bowe, Vitali Klitschko, Joseph Chingangu by KO - which he reversed 2 years later with a first round stoppage and to Mindaugas Kulikauskas following a clash of heads, the cut from which brought about the Referees stoppage.

With that record, in today's market he'd have a far greater profile and we'd be talking about him in glowing terms - but should probably have stayed at Cruiser?

He gave it a good go against Bowe as well; and Bowe was an awesome fighter. I wonder if his chin might have been better pre the Bowe fight. Have a soft spot for Herbie. He could really punch. I agree, he would have been very marketable in today's age.

[TheLeprechaun]

He gave it a good go against Bowe as well; and Bowe was an awesome fighter. I wonder if his chin might have been better pre the Bowe fight. Have a soft spot for Herbie. He could really punch. I agree, he would have been very marketable in today's age.

Bowe had one of his worst nights to be fair. He was very ponderous that night. He was his own worst enemy. He gave Eddie Futch a heart attack before the second Holyfield fight because he wouldn't train or eat properly. Eddie then called him a "lost cause" before the second Golota fight and refused to train him. It was a monumental effort from Hide though. Bowe had come to the UK to watch Herbie labour to a stoppage win and I don't think he respected Herbie due to Herbies size but he felt the full force of the punches and Herbie gained his respect. I am not sure what hurt Herbie for the first knockdown. It looked like his head hitting off Bowes chest robbed him of his senses? He has to have had one of the worst heavyweight chins I've seen.

[Taansend]

He has to have had one of the worst heavyweight chins I've seen.

Probably more to do with a combination of his smaller stature plus his fighting style. He's leaping in & going for knockouts, so he's going to get caught against top calibre fighters.

[SeanBrennan]

What size house has he got? Is it like huge sized?

Mansion https://www.alamy.com/boxer-herbie-hide ... 47256.html

I believe Herbie was adopted and lived a charmed life and inherited that house? Correct me if I'm wrong. It makes it odd that he got into boxing despite not needing the money.

I’ve not got a clue buddy

[tannervegas]

I remember the Akinwande v Hide ABA final. Akinwande was a real dick to him afterwards brushing Hide away dismissively when Hide went to congratulate him. For no real reason either that I can recall. It was a scrappy bout but I think that was mostly due to (as you said) him only having had a few fights at that point and Akinwande being an elite amateur. He was knackered at the end of it.

Hide is from the Igo tribe and Akinwander is from a different one I believe. Nigeria itself was just put together when Brits drew a map and lots of different tribes put together. Although maybe an Nigerian can clarify but I have seen disputes in bookies between Nigerians who seemed to hate each other and thats what I was told when I quietly asked someone what that was all about.

Ah that makes sense, I see now why there might have been some friction. Didn’t know about that cheers.

[evrenb]

To this day he was the rudest boxer I ever met. Perhaps the rudest person.

[MightyWarrior]

I’d guess the Akinwande agro was due to Hide antagonising him at some point, even the mild-mannered Michael Bentt ended up in an all-out brawl with him before the fight.

Yeah I don’t think there was any sign of the porcelain chin before Big Daddy Bowe got hold of him. I mean a guy that size hitting you on the head …it likely short circuited his punch resistance. Bentt could really crack, and there was no sign of weakness in that fight.

Yes, I think Herbie was adopted by a family in Norwich. But I think he bought that mansion himself from the millions he made probably fighting Riddick Bowe

[Tarquin Tarpaulin IV]

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He has to have had one of the worst heavyweight chins I've seen.
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[damage]

He has to have had one of the worst heavyweight chins I've seen.
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Punchline?

[JamesPhilips]

He has to have had one of the worst heavyweight chins I've seen.
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You obviously haven’t seen Arthur Spilzka fight

[Flump]

Herbie had some talent and could crack, but he was really too small fo heavyweight, and most importantly, a classic bully. As soon as he got some back, he imploded. He may have had more success at Cruiserweight, but then he wouldn't have made the money he did, so...

[Steveh583]

Herbie had some talent and could crack, but he was really too small fo heavyweight, and most importantly, a classic bully. As soon as he got some back, he imploded. He may have had more success at Cruiserweight, but then he wouldn't have made the money he did, so...

yeah good analysis. I suspect hes not a very nice man

[John]

Herbie is a nice guy, but he is just a big kid, easily distracted and occasionally does daft things.

[Steveh583]

Herbie is a nice guy, but he is just a big kid, easily distracted and occasionally does daft things.

I cant accept that as justification at his ripe age. trying to supply someone with vast amounts of class A narcotics (even in a set up) surpasses "doing daft things".

[Frostieballs]

Herbie is a nice guy, but he is just a big kid, easily distracted and occasionally does daft things.

I cant accept that as justification at his ripe age. trying to supply someone with vast amounts of class A narcotics (even in a set up) surpasses "doing daft things".

You mean in the fake sheikh sting - or is there another incidence?

[Steveh583]

Herbie is a nice guy, but he is just a big kid, easily distracted and occasionally does daft things.

I cant accept that as justification at his ripe age. trying to supply someone with vast amounts of class A narcotics (even in a set up) surpasses "doing daft things".

You mean in the fake sheikh sting - or is there another incidence?

yeah. to even consider getting involved in something like that is disgusting.

[Tarquin Tarpaulin IV]

He has to have had one of the worst heavyweight chins I've seen.

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You obviously haven’t seen Arthur Spilzka fight
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Don't know what happened to my comment on this quote from someone else's earlier post?

[Nightmare Roy]

Herbie is a nice guy, but he is just a big kid, easily distracted and occasionally does daft things.

I cant accept that as justification at his ripe age. trying to supply someone with vast amounts of class A narcotics (even in a set up) surpasses "doing daft things".