Oleksandr Usyk vs. Deontay Wilder - Who wins?

[gilgamesh]

It's still nothing until somebody officially signs a damn contract already. So far this year it's just rumors, and not even especially good ones at that.

[Evander]

It's still nothing until somebody officially signs a damn contract already. So far this year it's just rumors, and not even especially good ones at that.

Gotta bring it up however unlikely, could Wilder do both April and July ?

[Sendo Takeshi]

Gotta bring it up however unlikely, could Wilder do both April and July ?

Depends on how bad his knockout loss in April is gonna be..

[gilgamesh]

It's still nothing until somebody officially signs a damn contract already. So far this year it's just rumors, and not even especially good ones at that.

Gotta bring it up however unlikely, could Wilder do both April and July ?

Even if he could he wouldn't. A guy fighting 2 times within 3 months these days simply doesn't happen unless he's like a prospect or a flyweight or something.

[Evander]

It's still nothing until somebody officially signs a damn contract already. So far this year it's just rumors, and not even especially good ones at that.

Gotta bring it up however unlikely, could Wilder do both April and July ?

Even if he could he wouldn't. A guy fighting 2 times within 3 months these days simply doesn't happen unless he's like a prospect or a flyweight or something.

I doubt he will fight both dates, however I'm still in the dark to what's happenning with Deontay at this point.

[Sendo Takeshi]

[2331608]

It's still nothing until somebody officially signs a damn contract already. So far this year it's just rumors, and not even especially good ones at that.

Well Wilder has a puncher's chance in any fight, but realistically, he gets the snot beat out of him due to the relentless pressure of Usyk and Wilder's decline.

[2331608]

Chisora, everyone's favourite dance partner if the prom queen is already taken. Let's hope it doesn't go past four rounds.

[gilgamesh]

I don't mind if it goes past 4. Chisora vs Wilder should be a lot of fun.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Usyk vs Dubois 3 for undisputed, let's goo

[joshj909]

Usyk vs Dubois 3 for undisputed, let's goo

I think if Dubois does face and beat Wardley, he should have to go through a gauntlet of the toughest opponents before there's any consideration of Usyk facing him again. Wardley, Kabayel, Itauma, Zhang, Parker, Bakole, Torrez, Jalolov then maybe Usyk.

[gilgamesh]

Usyk vs Dubois 3 for undisputed, let's goo

I think if Dubois does face and beat Wardley, he should have to go through a gauntlet of the toughest opponents before there's any consideration of Usyk facing him again. Wardley, Kabayel, Itauma, Zhang, Parker, Bakole, Torrez, Jalolov then maybe Usyk.

If Dubois beats Wardley or if Wardley beats Dubois. The winner should fight Tyson Fury because that would be the biggest money fight. Possibly bigger than Usyk.

[joshj909]

Usyk vs Dubois 3 for undisputed, let's goo

I think if Dubois does face and beat Wardley, he should have to go through a gauntlet of the toughest opponents before there's any consideration of Usyk facing him again. Wardley, Kabayel, Itauma, Zhang, Parker, Bakole, Torrez, Jalolov then maybe Usyk.

If Dubois beats Wardley or if Wardley beats Dubois. The winner should fight Tyson Fury because that would be the biggest money fight. Possibly bigger than Usyk.

The problem is then that nobody wants to see Usyk beat Fury for a third time either. Fury should also have to go through a gauntlet of the toughest opponents before a third shot at Usyk.

[gilgamesh]

I think if Dubois does face and beat Wardley, he should have to go through a gauntlet of the toughest opponents before there's any consideration of Usyk facing him again. Wardley, Kabayel, Itauma, Zhang, Parker, Bakole, Torrez, Jalolov then maybe Usyk.

If Dubois beats Wardley or if Wardley beats Dubois. The winner should fight Tyson Fury because that would be the biggest money fight. Possibly bigger than Usyk.

The problem is then that nobody wants to see Usyk beat Fury for a third time either. Fury should also have to go through a gauntlet of the toughest opponents before a third shot at Usyk.

Let's face it. At the pace Boxing matchmaking moves, by the time any 2 of those fights happen then Usyk should be about ready to retire, and he won't need to fight any of them.

If Fury beats Wardley, I wouldn't mind a 3rd bout with Usyk then. Especially if Usyk were to fight say Kabayel in the meantime.

[joshj909]

If Dubois beats Wardley or if Wardley beats Dubois. The winner should fight Tyson Fury because that would be the biggest money fight. Possibly bigger than Usyk.

The problem is then that nobody wants to see Usyk beat Fury for a third time either. Fury should also have to go through a gauntlet of the toughest opponents before a third shot at Usyk.

Let's face it. At the pace Boxing matchmaking moves, by the time any 2 of those fights happen then Usyk should be about ready to retire, and he won't need to fight any of them.

If Fury beats Wardley, I wouldn't mind a 3rd bout with Usyk then. Especially if Usyk were to fight say Kabayel in the meantime.

Think I'd rather them both face someone else in that situation. Probably two younger opponents like Jalolov, Itauma and Torrez. Recycling the same opponents has been a big problem with the past 5 years at heavyweight.

[gilgamesh]

Well let's not get mad about a 3rd fight we don't want that hasn't been announced.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Usyk vs Dubois 3 for undisputed, let's goo

I think if Dubois does face and beat Wardley, he should have to go through a gauntlet of the toughest opponents before there's any consideration of Usyk facing him again. Wardley, Kabayel, Itauma, Zhang, Parker, Bakole, Torrez, Jalolov then maybe Usyk.

Dubois would have to clear out cruiserweight as well before he should be allowed to fight Usyk again.
After Parker’s defeat, I’m only interested in Usyk vs. Kabayel. I hope Usyk retires after that.

The one issue the heavyweight division has is that Usyk is too damn good. With him out of the picture, so many competitive and interesting title fights could be made.

[gilgamesh]

Usyk vs Dubois 3 for undisputed, let's goo

I think if Dubois does face and beat Wardley, he should have to go through a gauntlet of the toughest opponents before there's any consideration of Usyk facing him again. Wardley, Kabayel, Itauma, Zhang, Parker, Bakole, Torrez, Jalolov then maybe Usyk.

Dubois would have to clear out cruiserweight as well before he should be allowed to fight Usyk again.
After Parker’s defeat, I’m only interested in Usyk vs. Kabayel. I hope Usyk retires after that.

The one issue the heavyweight division has is that Usyk is too damn good. With him out of the picture, so many competitive and interesting title fights could be made.

Usyk is definitely not unbeatable. Especially as he gets nearer to 40.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Usyk is definitely not unbeatable. Especially as he gets nearer to 40.

Since he moved up to heavyweight, only Fury came close (and it took him a second fight).
Fury is probably also a level above everyone else in the division.

I agree that age is the only real concern here, but he didn’t look like he had slowed down in his last fight.

[gilgamesh]

Usyk is definitely not unbeatable. Especially as he gets nearer to 40.

Since he moved up to heavyweight, only Fury came close (and it took him a second fight).
Fury is probably also a level above everyone else in the division.

I agree that age is the only real concern here, but he didn’t look like he had slowed down in his last fight.

He hadn't, but it's bound to hit him at some point, and he don't want it to hit him in the 10th round of a life and death struggle to retain his title.

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Usyk vs Dubois 3 for undisputed, let's goo

Please, no.

How many times does Usyk have to beat the same guys over and over before the division moves on?

It might be OK if these guys fought 4, 5, 6 times a year maybe, but they fight once a year, twice tops.

All these rematches and possible rematches of rematches is just dull.

I want to see Usyk fight somebody not called Joshua, Fury or Dubois and definitely not Chisora either.

Can we have Kabayel, Wardley, or even Parker, just somebody else who can fight, or brings something to the table?

[Sendo Takeshi]

Usyk vs Dubois 3 for undisputed, let's goo

Please, no.

How many times does Usyk have to beat the same guys over and over before the division moves on?

It might be OK if these guys fought 4, 5, 6 times a year maybe, but they fight once a year, twice tops.

All these rematches and possible rematches of rematches is just dull.

I want to see Usyk fight somebody not called Joshua, Fury or Dubois and definitely not Chisora either.

Can we have Kabayel, Wardley, or even Parker, just somebody else who can fight, or brings something to the table?

Yeah, I was definitely kidding
I don't wanna see any more rematches for Usyk. In fact, Kabayel is the only fight left I care about currently.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Is Wilder Inching Into Position To Revisit Fight Vs. Usyk?

Deontay Wilder could become Oleksandr Usyk’s most viable option.

After beating Derek Chisora on April 4 at O2 Arena in London, Wilder, who was only ranked No. 12 by the WBC, is now ranked No. 10 by the IBF as well. Beyond his two top-15 rankings, Wilder’s name recognition and status as a former WBC champ – and Usyk’s dwindling list of potential future foes – could make them appealing opponents for each other again later this year.

Before he faced Chisora, Wilder, who made 10 successful defenses of his WBC crown before losing his belt to Tyson Fury in February 2020, was on the verge of finalizing a deal to challenge Usyk, who owns The Ring, IBF, WBA and WBC heavyweight titles.

Wilder (45-4-1, 43 KOs), of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, opted for a fight with Chisora once talks stalled. Ukraine’s Usyk (24-0, 15 KOs) also moved on. He’s now scheduled to face Rico Verhoeven, a professional kickboxer, in the main event of The Ring’s show at the Pyramids of Giza in Egypt on May 23.

For the 39-year-old heavyweight king, he mentioned in a previous interview on “Inside The Ring” that he had just three fights left before he’d retire. One, of course, is coming against Verhoeven.

The next would be against the winner of WBO heavyweight champion, Fabio Wardley vs. Daniel Dubois. That bout is set to take place May 9 at Co-op Live Arena in Manchester, England.

For Usyk’s last bout, he would like it to take place against Tyson Fury. Usyk beat Fury by decision in back-to-back fights in 2024.

Those bouts, however, might be off the table.

The Ring’s No. 1-ranked heavyweight and No. 1-ranked pound-for-pound fighter has knocked out Dubois twice.

If Dubois upsets Wardley, a third meeting between Dubois and Usyk makes little financial sense. Usyk also vacated his WBO strap on November 17 instead of facing Wardley, who had the interim championship, and claimed that a fight against Wardley wasn’t financially rewarding.

As for Fury, he ended a year-and-a-half retirement Saturday night by beating Arslanbek Makhmudov at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London. After scoring that lopsided unanimous decision, Fury said that a fight with Anthony Joshua is the only one that interests him.

With Fury apparently headed in a different direction, Wilder is suddenly an attractive alternative for Usyk again.

To add more credibility to his world title hopes, the WBO recently told The Ring that it is considering placing Wilder in its top 15. The WBO is set to release its rankings toward the end of this month.

Wilder called out Joshua immediately after knocking Chisora down twice and picking himself up off the canvas as well. But with Joshua ostensibly on the verge of facing Fury in an all-British mega clash, it would make sense for the hard-hitting star to revisit a fight versus Usyk as well.

[joshj909]

Put Wilder in against Joshua, Kabayel or Dubois/Wardley winner. If he can beat any of them, people may be interested in the fight, otherwise absolutely nobody cares.

[gilgamesh]

Put Wilder in against Joshua, Kabayel or Dubois/Wardley winner. If he can beat any of them, people may be interested in the fight, otherwise absolutely nobody cares.

If Usyk took him on next immediately following Rico, I'd be down with that. Just like Usyk/Rico, I'm likely the only one who has this opinion

That being said, would I prefer Usyk vs Kabayel or Wardley after the Rico bout? Yes I would.

But Usyk vs Wilder is still better than Usyk vs Fury 3 or Dubois 3 that's for sure.