Respect to Cotto

TheGoods · Post by **TheGoods** » 04 Oct 2006, 06:39

I'm a Cotto fan and can only applaud his willingness to box Quintana in his first fight as a welter. Have seen Quintana once or twice and he's a class act. Hope this fight is being shown in th UK as it looks an absolute belter.

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 04 Oct 2006, 07:43

Sky have shown Cotto a few times but I guess that was because they saw him as a potention Hatton opponent.. However now that Cotto has moved up and Hatton has moved back down, I'm not sure if Sky will bother with this one which is a shame!

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 04 Oct 2006, 07:47

Cotto is fearless and does take tough matches - fair play to him/his team.

He looked very drawn in his last few fights so the step up isnt before time.

He is an exciting fighter but I dont think he will have it all his own way at welter. Great fighter to watch though with his high guard and combination punching

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 04 Oct 2006, 08:05

Yes, I think Cotto will have it tough at Welterweight. Though technically he is sound, he has also relied on being able to physically overwhelm his opponents when he does let his hands go. He is not especially quick, nor really a devastating one punch hitter, he breaks his opponents with classy combinations to the body and head.

At Welterweight he will be facing guys who physically are a match for him and there's a lot of big rangy guys in the Collazo mould.

It will be very interesting to see how he fares, I suspect his career will be short lived at Welter, but I cannot see him moving back down to 140. Cotto's already taken a fair bit of punishment in his career, I think in a couple of years time, it will be all over at top level.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 04 Oct 2006, 08:37

It's make or break time. Cotto has to win as there's no way down to 140 again. For Quintana it's a vital match as well. If he loses, who will want to fight this tricky and strong southpaw?

For me, Quintana outboxes Cotto.

ALI · Post by **ALI** » 04 Oct 2006, 09:32

For sure Cotto will have it tougher at welterweight (bigger oponents, harder punches) but on the plus side he will no longer be weight drained. He is a class act, one of the finest boxers i have ever seen. Many people write Cotto off because he's been rocked a few times, but he showed his heart and more on all those occassions.

He will be around for some time, i'm sure of it. Remember, one loss does not end a fighters career!

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 04 Oct 2006, 10:13

I love watching Cotto fight,and am a fan.
Slightly worried about his move up though.I mean,if he was struggling so much to make 140,why was'nt he moved up a lot earlier in his career?
I think he is going to struggle at 147,for the reasons above.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 04 Oct 2006, 11:20

Cotto is definitely doing the right thing in moving up weight, and I don't think he had too much choice about it: he's looked half starved to death before his last few fights.

Bit it's rare a fighter will hit the ground running at a new weight, and his handlers have picked a potential nightmare debut for him at 147.
Quintana is a slick boxer with a seemingly good chin, plus he can hit hard as well.

Credit to Cotto, as he doesn't duck the tough fights does he.
This one has upset written all over it. But even if he loses, I think Cotto's class will tell and he'll make an impact at welter and, lightmiddle too.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 04 Oct 2006, 11:51

ALI wrote: He is a class act, one of the finest boxers i have ever seen.

He is good, but he aint that good Ali!

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 04 Oct 2006, 12:27

MightyWarrior wrote:Cotto is definitely doing the right thing in moving up weight, and I don't think he had too much choice about it: he's looked half starved to death before his last few fights.

Bit it's rare a fighter will hit the ground running at a new weight, and his handlers have picked a potential nightmare debut for him at 147.
Quintana is a slick boxer with a seemingly good chin, plus he can hit hard as well.

Credit to Cotto, as he doesn't duck the tough fights does he.
This one has upset written all over it. But even if he loses, I think Cotto's class will tell and he'll make an impact at welter and, lightmiddle too.

I don't think it'd be an upset. My guess is Quintana will be the favourite.

Andy Mac · Post by **Andy Mac** » 04 Oct 2006, 12:49

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Yes, I think Cotto will have it tough at Welterweight. Though technically he is sound, he has also relied on being able to physically overwhelm his opponents when he does let his hands go. He is not especially quick, nor really a devastating one punch hitter, he breaks his opponents with classy combinations to the body and head.

At Welterweight he will be facing guys who physically are a match for him and there's a lot of big rangy guys in the Collazo mould.

It will be very interesting to see how he fares, I suspect his career will be short lived at Welter, but I cannot see him moving back down to 140. Cotto's already taken a fair bit of punishment in his career, I think in a couple of years time, it will be all over at top level.

Do you really think that Jim? Cotto is 5'8" with a 72" reach i'd say that makes him about average for a welter. Hatton on the other hand is small for the weight. I reckon the move up might do wonders for Miguels career.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 04 Oct 2006, 13:04

Surely if Cotto is so suited to welterweight he would have moved up ages ago? Especially given that he struggles to make 140 so much.
Maybe there is a reason why he was held back from moving up? Maybe his handlers did'nt fancy it until he could'nt possibly make 140 anymore?
It was'nt as if Miguel was staying at 140 to unify or chase the big fights was it?
Maybe I'am being cynical,but if,as some suggest,he is going to be so much better at welter,why did'nt he move up long ago?

All that said,I hope it all goes well for him,and I will certainly be rooting for him against Quintana.Looking forward to it.

glahn · Post by **glahn** » 04 Oct 2006, 13:20

I reckon Cotto will be better and stronger at welter. It's obvious that he's killing himself to make the light welter limit, and his punch resistance and strength are being affected by it.

That said, I think the Quintana fight will be very close indeed. I can see it being a classics boxer vs. puncher type deal, with Quintana doing good work on the outside and mixing it up well, and Cotto trying to land a lot of bombs. Could go either way, I reckon.

jimcook · Post by **jimcook** » 04 Oct 2006, 15:13

cotto is still young and growing,so it made sense to do the lower weight for as long as it was possible.he won all his fights and is unbeaten so the strategy has proven correct. he has had his education, and i reckon now hes ready to move up , and mop up at welter.doubt if he will have to fight any fighter who will be heavier than him come fight time,so nobody should have the strenghth to bully him. i cant see anyone on the horizon to trouble him.theres the doubt about his chin,but so far hes been in with good opponents, and it is he who has wrecked them. if cottos people are taking the quintana fight so soon its because they are 99 percent certain he ll do the businessotherwise they would have taken a lesser opponent.if this is the case,then get ready for cotto to dominate for as long as he can be bothered.i really believe that he has strolled through the light welterweight division up until now.his toughest opponent has been makin the weight,now that he doesnt have to ,the others should start worrying. after quintana they should get him juddah,just to put to bed all this chin nonsense.then people might give him the credit he desrves.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 04 Oct 2006, 15:21

Does anyone here think the chinks in Cotto's chin in his fights against Torres and Corley were partly due to weightmaking or is that a weakness in any case.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 04 Oct 2006, 15:54

i rate quintana very highly.

i'd favour him to beat hatton.

so it obviously goes without saying that i think cotto is going down to a points defeat here.

bob arum is mad for making this fight.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 04 Oct 2006, 16:54

i think cotto has been considered "the great up and coming world prospect" for too long now. i know he is a classy boxer and he is a courageous guy and all of that but for me he has to step up to claim a real mark on the sport and he has to do it at 147lbs. i thought a year ago that he was going to be awesome but now i dont.
for me he gets found out at welter within 3 fights.

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 04 Oct 2006, 17:28

topper123 wrote:Does anyone here think the chinks in Cotto's chin in his fights against Torres and Corley were partly due to weightmaking or is that a weakness in any case.

I think it was mostly him trying to bomb them out for what were two pretty intense crowds. I remember he took a few good shots flush, early, from Randall Bailey when he was boxing him in a relatively placid casino a few years back.

ALI wrote:He is a class act, one of the finest boxers i have ever seen.

Would be a proper handful with a heavier engine. They might be banking on that with this match.

bigynzing · Post by **bigynzing** » 04 Oct 2006, 17:48

I`d like to see Cotto fight Tony Margerito....

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 04 Oct 2006, 17:54

bigynzing wrote:I`d like to see Cotto fight Tony Margerito....

I hope Margarito gets the Cotto-Quintana winner. Could happen, he's fighting Clottey on the same show.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 Oct 2006, 02:28

cotto will still be big at welter....he has been known to enter the ring well over 155