Andy Ruiz looks to angle his way back into the heavyweight mix

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‘I want a piece of the pie’: Andy Ruiz looks to angle his way back into the heavyweight mix

Andy Ruiz aims to get back in action and land another big fight.



Andy Ruiz spent some time talking about this weekend’s big event in front of the Egyptian pyramids and says he’s hoping to find himself in some big fights soon, as he feels left out of the gravy train provided by Turki Alalshikh.

“I would love to fight Usyk,” Ruiz said. “We even had talks, we were supposed to fight him but things happened, everybody took different routes. It’s like I’m too risky for a lot of other heavyweights who have different plans. But once I’m ready, once I’m already fighting, they have no choice but to fight me. So a lot of people haven’t seen me at 100% and right now I feel good, I feel strong.

“I’m hungry. I want a piece of the f-ckin’ pie that everybody’s getting that I’ve been missing out. But I’ve been smart because I’ve been recovering my hand…While I was recovering I was seeing everybody fight, everybody losing, everybody getting their ass kicked, everybody getting a rematch and fighting again and again for no reason instead of giving other heavyweights opportunities. But I’m back. That’s what it is.”

Ruiz last fought in a majority draw against Jarrell Miller back in August 2024, and he’ll surely have his work cut out for him if he’s going to do more than simply be thrown a lifeline to a big fight.
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The more the merrier..
Imagine if just a fraction of these HW names stay busy..
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He should probably actually fight someone then. He's not boxed in 2 years. 1 fight in 4 years. He's been out of shape, even more so than before, for 7 years. He couldn't even beat Miller in his last fight so no way he can beat someone that's actually good. He's wasted his opportunity.
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joshj909 wrote: 23 May 2026, 04:42 He should probably actually fight someone then. He's not boxed in 2 years. 1 fight in 4 years. He's been out of shape, even more so than before, for 7 years. He couldn't even beat Miller in his last fight so no way he can beat someone that's actually good. He's wasted his opportunity.
I would definitely love to see Ruiz return. Doesn't even matter against who. I'd just like to see him back in the mix.

Ruiz vs Zhang would be wonderful because both guys are kinda on the bubble of mattering, and it'd be like a make or break for either man.

Any combo of Zhang/Ruiz/Bakole/Miller would be good really as far as getting fringe contenders a meaningful fight that could make them a part of the picture.
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Andy Ruiz Jr. probably needs a couple of comeback fights before anyone can seriously talk about him facing a top heavyweight. By the time that happens, he'll be pushing 38.

Since beating AJ seven years ago, he's only won two fights.

He's lost a lot of weight, which is good, but he's also likely lost a fair bit of muscle along the way. Looking at how slim he is now, he could probably make the Bridgerweight limit without much trouble.

I think what’ll inevitably happen very soon, though, is that Andy will have a warm-up bout to shed some ring rust against a journeyman, immediately prior to being used as a stepping-stone sacrificial lamb for a rising star, such as Moses Itauma.
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Ruiz owns a pizza place near me.

They have a Wing Wednesday Special.

https://www.victorinospizzeria.com/

As for him fighting seriously again, we've been hearing this since the Joshua rematch. Stop talking about it & just have 2 or 3 lower level fights just to get used to the feeling of fighting again. There's always talk of a comeback. There's always photos of a slimmed down Ruiz. But there's very rarely any fights.
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Taansend wrote: 29 May 2026, 12:47 Ruiz owns a pizza place near me.

They have a Wing Wednesday Special.

https://www.victorinospizzeria.com/

As for him fighting seriously again, we've been hearing this since the Joshua rematch. Stop talking about it & just have 2 or 3 lower level fights just to get used to the feeling of fighting again. There's always talk of a comeback. There's always photos of a slimmed down Ruiz. But there's very rarely any fights.
Yeah. I miss the days when every fighter didn't announce he's making a comeback. He just came back :lol:
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Taansend wrote: 29 May 2026, 12:47 Ruiz owns a pizza place near me.

They have a Wing Wednesday Special.

https://www.victorinospizzeria.com/

As for him fighting seriously again, we've been hearing this since the Joshua rematch. Stop talking about it & just have 2 or 3 lower level fights just to get used to the feeling of fighting again. There's always talk of a comeback. There's always photos of a slimmed down Ruiz. But there's very rarely any fights.
If you've had a look at him, as he tries to angle his way back in, would you say he is looking at more the acute variety or more the obtuse?

:clap:
((It's not a clap. It's a gesture of angles))
((Sorry, none of these emojis adequately express how shit a joke I know this is))
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Finkel wrote: 29 May 2026, 19:57
Taansend wrote: 29 May 2026, 12:47 Ruiz owns a pizza place near me.

They have a Wing Wednesday Special.

https://www.victorinospizzeria.com/

As for him fighting seriously again, we've been hearing this since the Joshua rematch. Stop talking about it & just have 2 or 3 lower level fights just to get used to the feeling of fighting again. There's always talk of a comeback. There's always photos of a slimmed down Ruiz. But there's very rarely any fights.
If you've had a look at him, as he tries to angle his way back in, would you say he is looking at more the acute variety or more the obtuse?

:clap:
((It's not a clap. It's a gesture of angles))
((Sorry, none of these emojis adequately express how shit a joke I know this is))
How about this one? :doh:
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gilgamesh wrote: 29 May 2026, 21:50
Finkel wrote: 29 May 2026, 19:57
Taansend wrote: 29 May 2026, 12:47 Ruiz owns a pizza place near me.

They have a Wing Wednesday Special.

https://www.victorinospizzeria.com/

As for him fighting seriously again, we've been hearing this since the Joshua rematch. Stop talking about it & just have 2 or 3 lower level fights just to get used to the feeling of fighting again. There's always talk of a comeback. There's always photos of a slimmed down Ruiz. But there's very rarely any fights.
If you've had a look at him, as he tries to angle his way back in, would you say he is looking at more the acute variety or more the obtuse?

:clap:
((It's not a clap. It's a gesture of angles))
((Sorry, none of these emojis adequately express how shit a joke I know this is))
How about this one? :doh:
I'll get my coat
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Ruiz has idled and eaten his way into irrelevance.

I used to be a fan of his, but I've completely lost interest in him.

It's good that he's finally realised that looking like a space hopper is not ideal for a professional athlete, or anybody else, for that matter, but it's too little too late.
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Is it true he earned £60m for the second Joshua fight? Or did I dream that?
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londonwar wrote: 03 Jun 2026, 09:00 Is it true he earned £60m for the second Joshua fight? Or did I dream that?
Honestly most of the time these inflated purses are bullshit.
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londonwar wrote: 03 Jun 2026, 09:00 Is it true he earned £60m for the second Joshua fight? Or did I dream that?
I'd imagine he made no more than $30m for the two fights combined.
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It's almost 7 years ago but I thought it was 7.5 million for the rematch.
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Taansend wrote: 03 Jun 2026, 11:26 It's almost 7 years ago but I thought it was 7.5 million for the rematch.
It was around $6m for the first fight.

He basically took Miller’s purse.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Jun 2026, 12:21
Taansend wrote: 03 Jun 2026, 11:26 It's almost 7 years ago but I thought it was 7.5 million for the rematch.
It was around $6m for the first fight.

He basically took Miller’s purse.
£6m is a lot of money for a challenger. Fair play to the guy.
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A lot of people talk about how traumatic and brutal of a loss 'Andy Ruiz inflicted on Anthony Joshua I'.

Note: But in reality? Anthony Joshua made the rematch vs. Andy Ruiz Junior immediately 'and although? I personally thought he was over trained for the rematch. He was still able to win almost all the rounds, and avenge his loss'.

I think Anthony Joshua's rematch win over Ruiz inflicted more damage 'Ruiz Junior has done nothing much since beating Joshua I. When with his talent and abilities he should have at least been one of the premier heavyweight fighters of this era'.

When Oleksandr Uysk was campaigning to become the Heavyweight Champion 'Andy Ruiz Junior should have been one of the fighters, Uysk needed to face in order to prove himself as a genuine threat. That is the calibre of fighter, I believe Ruiz Junior is at his best'.

Regardless of his poor work ethic, and inconsistent form 'I have always liked the idea of the trilogy fight between him and Anthony Joshua III'.

Like I stated at the beginning of my post 'Anthony Joshua in my opinion was over trained for his rematch vs. Andy Ruiz Junior. He did not appear to have his usually high level of brute strength; his punching power also seemed to have decreased. It was his boxing skills, and Olympic boxing fundamentals which won him that fight'.

To conclude: I think Anthony Joshua has the ability to completely obliterate Andy Ruiz Junior in a trilogy fight 'and such an emphatic win, on a personally level would be great for Joshua'.

The trilogy fight has a readymade story line and narrative, and I think it would create a lot of intrigue in the Heavyweight Division etc.
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PRINCEKOOL wrote: 14 Jun 2026, 15:17 A lot of people talk about how traumatic and brutal of a loss 'Andy Ruiz inflicted on Anthony Joshua I'.

Note: But in reality? Anthony Joshua made the rematch vs. Andy Ruiz Junior immediately 'and although? I personally thought he was over trained for the rematch. He was still able to win almost all the rounds, and avenge his loss'.

I think Anthony Joshua's rematch win over Ruiz inflicted more damage 'Ruiz Junior has done nothing much since beating Joshua I. When with his talent and abilities he should have at least been one of the premier heavyweight fighters of this era'.

When Oleksandr Uysk was campaigning to become the Heavyweight Champion 'Andy Ruiz Junior should have been one of the fighters, Uysk needed to face in order to prove himself as a genuine threat. That is the calibre of fighter, I believe Ruiz Junior is at his best'.

Regardless of his poor work ethic, and inconsistent form 'I have always liked the idea of the trilogy fight between him and Anthony Joshua III'.

Like I stated at the beginning of my post 'Anthony Joshua in my opinion was over trained for his rematch vs. Andy Ruiz Junior. He did not appear to have his usually high level of brute strength; his punching power also seemed to have decreased. It was his boxing skills, and Olympic boxing fundamentals which won him that fight'.

To conclude: I think Anthony Joshua has the ability to completely obliterate Andy Ruiz Junior in a trilogy fight 'and such an emphatic win, on a personally level would be great for Joshua'.

The trilogy fight has a readymade story line and narrative, and I think it would create a lot of intrigue in the Heavyweight Division etc.
I strongly suspect that most fighters would consider retirement after becoming the unified world heavyweight champion, rising to the top of ESPN and The Ring's ratings, as well as earning a combined total of $24 million for the last five bouts of their career.

Very few fighters, especially someone like Andy who lacks discipline and has an eating disorder, would make a serious effort to rebuild their career and try to regain the world heavyweight title after already achieving all their life goals.

That said, in the 6½ years since he avenged his loss against Andy Ruiz Jr., Anthony Joshua has only beaten two world-rated fighters, and his most recent victory over a legitimate top-ten opponent (Otto Wallin) took place 2½ years ago.

If there was a third AJ-Ruiz Jr. bout, the likely victor would be the man who is less shot.

However, the tactics Joshua successfully used in the 2019 rematch would be less effective nowadays, because the Mexican is a lot skinnier compared to his former self.
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Eolaithe wrote: 14 Jun 2026, 18:56
PRINCEKOOL wrote: 14 Jun 2026, 15:17 A lot of people talk about how traumatic and brutal of a loss 'Andy Ruiz inflicted on Anthony Joshua I'.

Note: But in reality? Anthony Joshua made the rematch vs. Andy Ruiz Junior immediately 'and although? I personally thought he was over trained for the rematch. He was still able to win almost all the rounds, and avenge his loss'.

I think Anthony Joshua's rematch win over Ruiz inflicted more damage 'Ruiz Junior has done nothing much since beating Joshua I. When with his talent and abilities he should have at least been one of the premier heavyweight fighters of this era'.

When Oleksandr Uysk was campaigning to become the Heavyweight Champion 'Andy Ruiz Junior should have been one of the fighters, Uysk needed to face in order to prove himself as a genuine threat. That is the calibre of fighter, I believe Ruiz Junior is at his best'.

Regardless of his poor work ethic, and inconsistent form 'I have always liked the idea of the trilogy fight between him and Anthony Joshua III'.

Like I stated at the beginning of my post 'Anthony Joshua in my opinion was over trained for his rematch vs. Andy Ruiz Junior. He did not appear to have his usually high level of brute strength; his punching power also seemed to have decreased. It was his boxing skills, and Olympic boxing fundamentals which won him that fight'.

To conclude: I think Anthony Joshua has the ability to completely obliterate Andy Ruiz Junior in a trilogy fight 'and such an emphatic win, on a personally level would be great for Joshua'.

The trilogy fight has a readymade story line and narrative, and I think it would create a lot of intrigue in the Heavyweight Division etc.
I strongly suspect that most fighters would consider retirement after becoming the unified world heavyweight champion, rising to the top of ESPN and The Ring's ratings, as well as earning a combined total of $24 million for the last five bouts of their career.

Very few fighters, especially someone like Andy who lacks discipline and has an eating disorder, would make a serious effort to rebuild their career and try to regain the world heavyweight title after already achieving all their life goals.

That said, in the 6½ years since he avenged his loss against Andy Ruiz Jr., Anthony Joshua has only beaten two world-rated fighters, and his most recent victory over a legitimate top-ten opponent (Otto Wallin) took place 2½ years ago.

If there was a third AJ-Ruiz Jr. bout, the likely victor would be the man who is less shot.

However, the tactics Joshua successfully used in the 2019 rematch would be less effective nowadays, because the Mexican is a lot skinnier compared to his former self.
Since Anthony Joshua beat Andy Ruiz Junior II 'let's get this right? He has remained one of the premier Heavyweight fighters and boxers in the sport. Andy Ruiz Junior has not'.

Note: Andy Ruiz Junior lost almost all the rounds vs. Joshua in their rematch 'and has effectively disappeared from top level boxing. Anthony Joshua inflicted that level of damage upon him'.

Let's also acknowledge that boxing was suffering from its biggest existential threat of the 21st century 'after Francis Ngannou beat Tyson Fury over 10 rounds'.

It was Anthony Joshua who stepped up, not Tyson Fury, not Andy Ruiz Junior, not Deontay Wilder, not Oleksandr Uysk 'and obliterated Francis Ngannou inside 2 rounds'.

If Anthony Joshua and Andy Ruiz Junior ever fought for the third time 'Joshua has the ability to completely decimate Ruiz Junior. And that is why I want the fight to happen'.

I personally think a beat down of Andy Ruiz Junior 'would be a great performance for Joshua. It has nothing to do with boasting his resume, as you would know? Anthony Joshua statistically has beaten the highest number of top level heavyweight fighters of his era. Joshua has a more in depth resume than Oleksandr Usyk at heavyweight'.

To conclude: Yes I did mention the trilogy fight between Andy Ruiz Junior and Anthony Joshua still being a intriguing fight 'but in reality? I don't think it is right to compare Joshua to Ruiz Junior'.

I also think Anthony Joshua's lost to Daniel Dubois is being over exaggerated 'he got up from a knockout blow in round one, and then proceeded while still severely concussed to have a swing up. Joshua tactically fought a terrible fight, but? Even in doing so he nearly turned that fight around'.

If and when Anthony Joshua wins his next fight 'it appears that he will be fighting Tyson Fury. And when that fight takes place, Fury will be knocked out for the first time in his career' etc.
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Eolaithe wrote: 14 Jun 2026, 18:56
PRINCEKOOL wrote: 14 Jun 2026, 15:17 A lot of people talk about how traumatic and brutal of a loss 'Andy Ruiz inflicted on Anthony Joshua I'.

Note: But in reality? Anthony Joshua made the rematch vs. Andy Ruiz Junior immediately 'and although? I personally thought he was over trained for the rematch. He was still able to win almost all the rounds, and avenge his loss'.

I think Anthony Joshua's rematch win over Ruiz inflicted more damage 'Ruiz Junior has done nothing much since beating Joshua I. When with his talent and abilities he should have at least been one of the premier heavyweight fighters of this era'.

When Oleksandr Uysk was campaigning to become the Heavyweight Champion 'Andy Ruiz Junior should have been one of the fighters, Uysk needed to face in order to prove himself as a genuine threat. That is the calibre of fighter, I believe Ruiz Junior is at his best'.

Regardless of his poor work ethic, and inconsistent form 'I have always liked the idea of the trilogy fight between him and Anthony Joshua III'.

Like I stated at the beginning of my post 'Anthony Joshua in my opinion was over trained for his rematch vs. Andy Ruiz Junior. He did not appear to have his usually high level of brute strength; his punching power also seemed to have decreased. It was his boxing skills, and Olympic boxing fundamentals which won him that fight'.

To conclude: I think Anthony Joshua has the ability to completely obliterate Andy Ruiz Junior in a trilogy fight 'and such an emphatic win, on a personally level would be great for Joshua'.

The trilogy fight has a readymade story line and narrative, and I think it would create a lot of intrigue in the Heavyweight Division etc.
I strongly suspect that most fighters would consider retirement after becoming the unified world heavyweight champion, rising to the top of ESPN and The Ring's ratings, as well as earning a combined total of $24 million for the last five bouts of their career.

Very few fighters, especially someone like Andy who lacks discipline and has an eating disorder, would make a serious effort to rebuild their career and try to regain the world heavyweight title after already achieving all their life goals.

That said, in the 6½ years since he avenged his loss against Andy Ruiz Jr., Anthony Joshua has only beaten two world-rated fighters, and his most recent victory over a legitimate top-ten opponent (Otto Wallin) took place 2½ years ago.

If there was a third AJ-Ruiz Jr. bout, the likely victor would be the man who is less shot.

However, the tactics Joshua successfully used in the 2019 rematch would be less effective nowadays, because the Mexican is a lot skinnier compared to his former self.
:lol: how many times we been through this amazing andy weight loss journey nonsense now

i remember all those threads with those 'slim' andy pics.....then he came in at 250s/260s/270s, feet as slow as ever. now at almost 37,, inactive 2 years/no wins in 4 years ....i doubt anything in the ring is getting any easier for him
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He just wants another big pay day for his retirement fund
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there is a time honoured system

Andy Ruiz should fight the new kid Richard Torrez

then in about 5 years Torrez should fight Federicho Pacheco
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londonwar wrote: 16 Jun 2026, 06:29 there is a time honoured system

Andy Ruiz should fight the new kid Richard Torrez

then in about 5 years Torrez should fight Federicho Pacheco
Ruiz Vs Torrez would have made a lot of sense on the Benavidez/Ramírez undercard or a Canelo undercard. Lost a bit of any buzz it might have had after the Sanchez fight though.
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