The Heavyweight Champions

[gilgamesh]

As of now. This would be my Top 21. This DOES NOT mean I consider these guys to be the 21 Best Heavyweights ever. It just means this is the order I'd have the fighters I've covered in. Any names not included haven't been covered yet.

Heavyweight
1. Muhammad Ali - 1107 points
2. Joe Louis - 899 points
3. George Foreman - 694 points
4. Larry Holmes - 576 points
5. Rocky Marciano - 474 points
6. Lennox Lewis - 470 Points
7. Evander Holyfield - 466 Points
8. Riddick Bowe - 448 points
9. Wladimir Klitschko - 416 points
10. Mike Tyson - 377 points
11. Joe Frazier - 353 points
12. Tyson Fury - 342 points
13. Sonny Liston - 284 points
14. Vitali Klitschko - 265 points
15. Tommy Morrison - 241 points
16. Anthony Joshua - 223 Points
17. Deontay Wilder - 221 points
18. Oleksandr Usyk - 211 points
19. Ken Norton - 169 points
20. Frank Bruno - 130 points
21. Fabio Wardley - 110 points

Usyk behind Tommy Morrison and wilder shows fundamental flaws.

Here's the version of the list that stands now with more names having been added, and a few more fights having been fought for some of the people on the list.

Heavyweight
1. Muhammad Ali - 1107 points
2. Joe Louis - 899 points
3. George Foreman - 694 points
4. Larry Holmes - 576 points
5. Lennox Lewis - 500 points
6. Rocky Marciano - 474 points
7. Evander Holyfield - 461 Points
8. Riddick Bowe - 448 points
9. Wladimir Klitschko - 426 points
10. Mike Tyson - 397 points
11. Joe Frazier - 353 points
12. Tyson Fury - 346 points
13. Sonny Liston - 284 points
14. Oleksandr Usyk - 266 points
15. Vitali Klitschko - 265 points
16. Jack Dempsey - 264 points
17. Jim Jeffries - 249 points
18. Jack Johnson - 246 points
19. Tommy Morrison - 241 points
20 (tied). Deontay Wilder - 227 points
20 (tied). David Tua - 227 points
22. Anthony Joshua - 223 Points
23. Ezzard Charles - 221 points
24. Gene Tunney - 206 points
25. Floyd Patterson - 198 points
26. Andy Ruiz - 188 points
27. Ken Norton - 169 points
28. Hasim Rahman - 168 points
29. Joseph Parker - 149 points
30. Tommy Burns - 147 points
31. Ray Mercer - 145 points
32. Daniel Dubois - 139 points
33. Frank Bruno - 130 points
34. Max Schmeling - 129 points
35. Primo Carnera - 120 points
36 (tied). Jersey Joe Walcott - 113 points
36 (tied) . Ingemar Johansson - 113 points
38. James "Buster" Douglas - 97 points
39. Michael Moorer - 96 points
40. Tim Witherspoon - 94 points
41. Michael Spinks - 92 points
42. Max Baer - 91 points
43. Fabio Wardley - 90 points
44. Michael Dokes - 88 points
45. Jess Willard - 75 points
46. Jack Sharkey - 31 points
47. Roy Jones Jr. - 11 points
48. Samuel Peter - 6 points
49. Pinklon Thomas - 5 points

[gilgamesh]

If I'm not mistaken Agit Kabayel has now been upgraded to WBC Champion with Usyk's having vacated the Title. He will be added to the list of Heavyweight titlists.

Still to be determined if he ever successfully defends the title.

[tiny_acres]

As of now. This would be my Top 21. This DOES NOT mean I consider these guys to be the 21 Best Heavyweights ever. It just means this is the order I'd have the fighters I've covered in. Any names not included haven't been covered yet.

Heavyweight
1. Muhammad Ali - 1107 points
2. Joe Louis - 899 points
3. George Foreman - 694 points
4. Larry Holmes - 576 points
5. Rocky Marciano - 474 points
6. Lennox Lewis - 470 Points
7. Evander Holyfield - 466 Points
8. Riddick Bowe - 448 points
9. Wladimir Klitschko - 416 points
10. Mike Tyson - 377 points
11. Joe Frazier - 353 points
12. Tyson Fury - 342 points
13. Sonny Liston - 284 points
14. Vitali Klitschko - 265 points
15. Tommy Morrison - 241 points
16. Anthony Joshua - 223 Points
17. Deontay Wilder - 221 points
18. Oleksandr Usyk - 211 points
19. Ken Norton - 169 points
20. Frank Bruno - 130 points
21. Fabio Wardley - 110 points

Usyk behind Tommy Morrison and wilder shows fundamental flaws.

Here's the version of the list that stands now with more names having been added, and a few more fights having been fought for some of the people on the list.

Heavyweight
1. Muhammad Ali - 1107 points
2. Joe Louis - 899 points
3. George Foreman - 694 points
4. Larry Holmes - 576 points
5. Lennox Lewis - 500 points
6. Rocky Marciano - 474 points
7. Evander Holyfield - 461 Points
8. Riddick Bowe - 448 points
9. Wladimir Klitschko - 426 points
10. Mike Tyson - 397 points
11. Joe Frazier - 353 points
12. Tyson Fury - 346 points
13. Sonny Liston - 284 points
14. Oleksandr Usyk - 266 points
15. Vitali Klitschko - 265 points
16. Jack Dempsey - 264 points
17. Jim Jeffries - 249 points
18. Jack Johnson - 246 points
19. Tommy Morrison - 241 points
20 (tied). Deontay Wilder - 227 points
20 (tied). David Tua - 227 points
22. Anthony Joshua - 223 Points
23. Ezzard Charles - 221 points
24. Gene Tunney - 206 points
25. Floyd Patterson - 198 points
26. Andy Ruiz - 188 points
27. Ken Norton - 169 points
28. Hasim Rahman - 168 points
29. Joseph Parker - 149 points
30. Tommy Burns - 147 points
31. Ray Mercer - 145 points
32. Daniel Dubois - 139 points
33. Frank Bruno - 130 points
34. Max Schmeling - 129 points
35. Primo Carnera - 120 points
36 (tied). Jersey Joe Walcott - 113 points
36 (tied) . Ingemar Johansson - 113 points
38. James "Buster" Douglas - 97 points
39. Michael Moorer - 96 points
40. Tim Witherspoon - 94 points
41. Michael Spinks - 92 points
42. Max Baer - 91 points
43. Fabio Wardley - 90 points
44. Michael Dokes - 88 points
45. Jess Willard - 75 points
46. Jack Sharkey - 31 points
47. Roy Jones Jr. - 11 points
48. Samuel Peter - 6 points
49. Pinklon Thomas - 5 points

Curious as to why Pinklon only has 5 points

[Ambling Alp II]

Didn't have enough "accomplishments". Doesn't matter that he was better than a ton of guys who are ranked higher.

[gilgamesh]

Usyk behind Tommy Morrison and wilder shows fundamental flaws.

Here's the version of the list that stands now with more names having been added, and a few more fights having been fought for some of the people on the list.

Heavyweight
1. Muhammad Ali - 1107 points
2. Joe Louis - 899 points
3. George Foreman - 694 points
4. Larry Holmes - 576 points
5. Lennox Lewis - 500 points
6. Rocky Marciano - 474 points
7. Evander Holyfield - 461 Points
8. Riddick Bowe - 448 points
9. Wladimir Klitschko - 426 points
10. Mike Tyson - 397 points
11. Joe Frazier - 353 points
12. Tyson Fury - 346 points
13. Sonny Liston - 284 points
14. Oleksandr Usyk - 266 points
15. Vitali Klitschko - 265 points
16. Jack Dempsey - 264 points
17. Jim Jeffries - 249 points
18. Jack Johnson - 246 points
19. Tommy Morrison - 241 points
20 (tied). Deontay Wilder - 227 points
20 (tied). David Tua - 227 points
22. Anthony Joshua - 223 Points
23. Ezzard Charles - 221 points
24. Gene Tunney - 206 points
25. Floyd Patterson - 198 points
26. Andy Ruiz - 188 points
27. Ken Norton - 169 points
28. Hasim Rahman - 168 points
29. Joseph Parker - 149 points
30. Tommy Burns - 147 points
31. Ray Mercer - 145 points
32. Daniel Dubois - 139 points
33. Frank Bruno - 130 points
34. Max Schmeling - 129 points
35. Primo Carnera - 120 points
36 (tied). Jersey Joe Walcott - 113 points
36 (tied) . Ingemar Johansson - 113 points
38. James "Buster" Douglas - 97 points
39. Michael Moorer - 96 points
40. Tim Witherspoon - 94 points
41. Michael Spinks - 92 points
42. Max Baer - 91 points
43. Fabio Wardley - 90 points
44. Michael Dokes - 88 points
45. Jess Willard - 75 points
46. Jack Sharkey - 31 points
47. Roy Jones Jr. - 11 points
48. Samuel Peter - 6 points
49. Pinklon Thomas - 5 points

Curious as to why Pinklon only has 5 points

Lots of KO losses mainly. The same thing caused Oleg Maskaev not to even wind up on the positive side of the ledger. Pinklon would rate higher for me if I could find more footage of his winning performances, but unfortunately I could only track down about a Dozen of the bouts he came out on top in.

[gilgamesh]

Didn't have enough "accomplishments". Doesn't matter that he was better than a ton of guys who are ranked higher.

I would favor Pinklon to win quite a few Mythical bouts with the people rated ahead of him yes, but my rankings aren't based on Mythical results. They're based on real world ones.

Fighters from past eras are sometimes short changed by there being less footage readily available of them, but that can't be helped.

[gilgamesh]

And to be clear I have rated some fighters lower than Pinklon Thomas, I just didn't wind up putting them on the list at all.

So far Marvin Hart, Oleg Maskaev and Michael Bentt would be the guys that have finished below Pinklon Thomas. I'm pretty sure Leon Spinks, Mike Weaver and Bonecrusher Smith will wind up joining them in the Unrated list below Pinklon Thomas.

This thread really wasn't intended to be a discussion about how I'm ranking these guys though. It's just meant to be a List of who the various Heavyweight Champions and Titleholders are in Chronological order. Anytime a new name is added to the list I'll bump the thread, and update the Post on Page 1 with the new Champion.

[gilgamesh]

Apparently Murat Gassiev has now also been elevated to the status of being the only WBA Heavyweight Champion. So he gets added to the list of titlists.

Crazy to think that 3 men have been gifted a version of the Heavyweight Championship in the last Calendar year. This feels like a moment that should kinda signal the beginning of the end of the Title orgs, and a shift to a new way of Championship recognition in a new era. We'll see how that all plays out.