Oleksandr Usyk vacates IBF, WBC and WBA belts

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I don't want to lose the spirit of Usyk.
He seems like a solid core real boxer and person, I'm huge fan of his :bow:
Giving up the belts is honourable and Oleksandr truely understands boxing and how it works today.
At any given moment up until Usyk retires or is past his best, he's in a position to call out any of the future Heavyweight Champions for a fight and they gotta take it.
If in the spirit of boxing if Usyk gives up the belts, it's not a big ask for him to challenge for one of them in the future.
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Usyk will TKO Deontay Wilder and in doing so, become the last heavyweight champion to retire underrated since Rocky Marciano. This is no small feat.

Deontay Wilder has been one of the most recognizable heavyweights of the last decade-plus. From 2015 to around 2025, he was consistently viewed as a top name — somewhere between 3rd and 10th best in the division during his prime years.

Usyk’s technical mastery, ring IQ, footwork, and southpaw angles should allow him to break Wilder down methodically and finish him in the mid to late rounds. I call a TKO win in 8 rounds. It’s a legacy building win in America against a household name. Usyk has already beaten the best UK fighters,

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784118 wrote: 03 Jul 2026, 07:27 Usyk will TKO Deontay Wilder and in doing so, become the last heavyweight champion to retire underrated since Rocky Marciano. This is no small feat.

Deontay Wilder has been one of the most recognizable heavyweights of the last decade-plus. From 2015 to around 2025, he was consistently viewed as a top name — somewhere between 3rd and 10th best in the division during his prime years.

Usyk’s technical mastery, ring IQ, footwork, and southpaw angles should allow him to break Wilder down methodically and finish him in the mid to late rounds. I call a TKO win in 8 rounds. It’s a legacy building win in America against a household name. Usyk has already beaten the best UK fighters,

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Oleksandr Uysk is not the Heavyweight Champion anymore 'he has vacated all of his titles. Rocky Marciano never vacated any of his titles, and just like Lennox Lewis? At the time of his retirement he was still the Heavyweight Champion'.

Note: I understand that Oleksandr Uysk still has the Lineal Ring Magazine title 'but really? The Lineal title, has not been a real title for many decades. It is a made up title. That in my opinion is just for the look'.

Tyson Fury disappeared after he beat Wladimir Kiltschko 'and he refused to take a rematch. Unfortunately due to his then circumstance'.

Anthony Joshua then stepped up, and beat the version of Wladimir Kiltschko who Tyson Fury should have fought in their scheduled rematch. Fury after that point should not have been considered the Lineal Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion'.

So the point I am making, yes? Oleksandr Uysk may retire undefeated 'but he will not be the undefeated Heavyweight Champion. He has voluntary vacated his heavyweight titles, and decided not to defend them' etc.
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He’s still the ‘man who beat the man’

As long as he ain’t retired.. if you wanna be top dog at HW: you gotta beat Usyk.

If he retires.. then we can have a consensus #1 vs #2 eventually.. then we get a new division king.
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Not necessarily. After Lewis beat Briggs, he still went into the Holyfield fight as the B side. It was only when he beat Holyfield that he got recognition he desired.
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He is still The Ring heavyweight champion.
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Sendo Takeshi wrote: 05 Jul 2026, 01:31 He is still The Ring heavyweight champion.
And the Lineal one
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PRINCEKOOL wrote: 04 Jul 2026, 15:21
784118 wrote: 03 Jul 2026, 07:27 Usyk will TKO Deontay Wilder and in doing so, become the last heavyweight champion to retire underrated since Rocky Marciano. This is no small feat.

Deontay Wilder has been one of the most recognizable heavyweights of the last decade-plus. From 2015 to around 2025, he was consistently viewed as a top name — somewhere between 3rd and 10th best in the division during his prime years.

Usyk’s technical mastery, ring IQ, footwork, and southpaw angles should allow him to break Wilder down methodically and finish him in the mid to late rounds. I call a TKO win in 8 rounds. It’s a legacy building win in America against a household name. Usyk has already beaten the best UK fighters,

- P4P
Oleksandr Uysk is not the Heavyweight Champion anymore 'he has vacated all of his titles. Rocky Marciano never vacated any of his titles, and just like Lennox Lewis? At the time of his retirement he was still the Heavyweight Champion'.

Note: I understand that Oleksandr Uysk still has the Lineal Ring Magazine title 'but really? The Lineal title, has not been a real title for many decades. It is a made up title. That in my opinion is just for the look'.

Tyson Fury disappeared after he beat Wladimir Kiltschko 'and he refused to take a rematch. Unfortunately due to his then circumstance'.

Anthony Joshua then stepped up, and beat the version of Wladimir Kiltschko who Tyson Fury should have fought in their scheduled rematch. Fury after that point should not have been considered the Lineal Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion'.

So the point I am making, yes? Oleksandr Uysk may retire undefeated 'but he will not be the undefeated Heavyweight Champion. He has voluntary vacated his heavyweight titles, and decided not to defend them' etc.
There weren't multiple Title belts that existed that could possibly be vacated back in Marciano's time.

Tyson Fury remained lineal Heavyweight Champion from the moment he beat Wladimir Klitschko until the moment he lost to Oleksandr Usyk, just like George Foreman remained Lineal Champion from the moment he beat Moorer until the moment he lost to Briggs.

You can't strip of a man of the LIneal Title. You can only beat him for it.

Whether you see Usyk as the Heavyweight Champion anymore in his next fight or not doesn't really matter. Many Boxing purists will, and they'll be right.
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gilgamesh wrote: 05 Jul 2026, 22:50
PRINCEKOOL wrote: 04 Jul 2026, 15:21
784118 wrote: 03 Jul 2026, 07:27 Usyk will TKO Deontay Wilder and in doing so, become the last heavyweight champion to retire underrated since Rocky Marciano. This is no small feat.

Deontay Wilder has been one of the most recognizable heavyweights of the last decade-plus. From 2015 to around 2025, he was consistently viewed as a top name — somewhere between 3rd and 10th best in the division during his prime years.

Usyk’s technical mastery, ring IQ, footwork, and southpaw angles should allow him to break Wilder down methodically and finish him in the mid to late rounds. I call a TKO win in 8 rounds. It’s a legacy building win in America against a household name. Usyk has already beaten the best UK fighters,

- P4P
Oleksandr Uysk is not the Heavyweight Champion anymore 'he has vacated all of his titles. Rocky Marciano never vacated any of his titles, and just like Lennox Lewis? At the time of his retirement he was still the Heavyweight Champion'.

Note: I understand that Oleksandr Uysk still has the Lineal Ring Magazine title 'but really? The Lineal title, has not been a real title for many decades. It is a made up title. That in my opinion is just for the look'.

Tyson Fury disappeared after he beat Wladimir Kiltschko 'and he refused to take a rematch. Unfortunately due to his then circumstance'.

Anthony Joshua then stepped up, and beat the version of Wladimir Kiltschko who Tyson Fury should have fought in their scheduled rematch. Fury after that point should not have been considered the Lineal Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion'.

So the point I am making, yes? Oleksandr Uysk may retire undefeated 'but he will not be the undefeated Heavyweight Champion. He has voluntary vacated his heavyweight titles, and decided not to defend them' etc.
There weren't multiple Title belts that existed that could possibly be vacated back in Marciano's time.

Tyson Fury remained lineal Heavyweight Champion from the moment he beat Wladimir Klitschko until the moment he lost to Oleksandr Usyk, just like George Foreman remained Lineal Champion from the moment he beat Moorer until the moment he lost to Briggs.

You can't strip of a man of the LIneal Title. You can only beat him for it.

Whether you see Usyk as the Heavyweight Champion anymore in his next fight or not doesn't really matter. Many Boxing purists will, and they'll be right.
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Fury: All these champions have been gifted titles

Oleksandr Usyk’s decision to vacate his heavyweight titles has kickstarted a new era in boxing’s glamour division, but Tyson Fury insists that he hasn’t returned to the sport to spend his time trying to collect the brilliant Ukrainian’s old belts.

In April, two-time champion Fury (35-2-1, 24 KOs) returned from a 16-month long retirement to outpoint Arslanbek Makhmudov at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London. This weekend, he stays busy by boxing Polish veteran Mariusz Wach (39-13, 20 KOs) over 10 rounds in a Muay Thai arena in Pattaya, Thailand.

Usyk was universally recognized as the best heavyweight on the planet from the moment he beat Fury in their undisputed title fight in May of 2024. He remains The Ring champion, but his recent decision to relinquish his WBC, WBA and IBF belts means that a new raft of champions will now aim to prove themselves top dog.

Although the 37-year-old claims to be back in boxing for the long haul, Fury has no interest in getting involved in a bunfight to regain his old belts and made his position clear when asked where he fits into the current heavyweight picture.
“He doesn't. All them men's been gifted world titles,” he said at Wednesday’s final press conference. “They never actually fought anyone to get one. Fabio Wardley, gifted the world title. Daniel Dubois, gifted a world title. Agit Kabayel, gifted a world title. [Murat] Gassiev, gifted a world title. How could you compare them men to me, who’s fought the legends in the game and beat them for the titles? Not possible.

“They're in their own little group, and I’m on top of the Empire State Building.”

It does seem that Fury has more pressing business than challenging for a title belt.

As long as he beats Wach on Friday and two-time unified champion Anthony Joshua beats Albania’s Kristian Prenga in Saudi Arabia on Saturday, it seems more likely than ever that the pair will meet in a long overdue, but still enormous battle of Britain later this year.

Fury, however, made sure to emphasize that he will be able to pick and choose the path his career will take from this point on.

In October of 2023, Fury kicked open the door to the modern trend of crossover fights when he got off the floor to squeak past former UFC heavyweight champion Francis Ngannou, and it sounds as though ‘The Gypsy King’ hasn’t ruled out the idea of exploring similar options in the future.

“All these guys, listen, they're all doing their thing. They're all going to fight it all out between themselves,” he said. “Even after being retired for 10 years, I could still come back and get a world title shot at any time, because I've paid the price. I've spent hours and years in this game to be able to do that. I'll always be a big name.

“Mike Tyson just came back at 60 and must have made $20 million. When you become a star and you become a conqueror of this game, you’re always welcome back at any age. “I'm sure if Lennox Lewis came back now at 60 odd, he'd get a title shot. I even hear Wladimir Klitschko's coming out of retirement for a world title shot.

“Boxing’s an addictive thing. It never goes. But as for rustling up and down with some cowboys, hell no. I want to just keep busy and do me. I paid the price. I fought four or five world title eliminators. I fought all the top contenders, champions, unifications, all that s---, and I've earned the right to do what I want.

“Now, whoever I want to fight from any sport, I can make that fight happen because I'm the GK. I do what I want.”
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